Taliban offensive of 2021 and collapse of Afghan government.

>US culture is unified

Opinion discarded. Consume hat on video to regain even the barest shred of credibility.
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The American dream is getting more corroded in USA to World Economic form Great reset plan-You will own nothing like it-
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Did you actually look at the Sino-Vietnamese war? Because the Slopes didn't send the Chinks packing, the Chinks decided they had made their point and went home.
The 'punitive expedition' narrative is a CCP cope. The border towns they took required too much time and men to take from the Vietnamese. By the time they left, the Khmer Rouge were still out on their asses and the Slopes still held Cambodia.

Could the CCP have taken Hanoi? Probably, but not without losing more men than they cared to and getting bogged down in a counterinsurgency. Based on their 'performance' in the 'war', Deng Xiaopeng spent the next few years modernizing the PLA.
 
Do any of the exceptional individuals running the Biden administration realize or even care how damaging this is to the U.S.?
No. Because they believe that what they want, what they say, is reality.

The whole "reality has a liberal bias" should tell you what you need to know right there.

They think that because they're crooked, venal, with no real care for the nation they're supposed to safeguard, everyone else is like them.

Liberals literally can't understand the right because they think everyone is like them.

The retards in charge of the Biden Administration (LOL) think that reality will just conform to their wishes is they bribe hard enough, spin hard enough, and ignore unpleasant things long enough.

They think that their grip on the MSM makes reality, rather than the perception of reality.
 
I don't remember all the details of British retreat in 19th century, they had some really gnarly battles, even East India Co used Indian sepoys a lot, so less loss of Brits, but US is def taking the prize for the most FUBAR Afgan campain ever.
As I referenced previously, the British army, Sepoys, and civilian supply train stationed in Kabul were entirely wiped out except for two people.

1) William Brydon, an army surgeon, who was partially scalped by a Afghan sword, his life saved only because a magazine he kept under his hat to keep warm in the mountain passes blunted the blow.
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2) This chad.
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I wonder what will happen when it dawns on certain people that the US publicly had its ass handed to it in public, on live video, by medieval goatfuckers; that it is finished as a superpower and is much in the position the USSR found itself after the fall of its Afghanistan excursion? That the US head of state and second in line to the presidency are cowering under their desks and the President makes speeches that even banana republic strongmen laugh at?

At this point only the military can remove these retards and secure the traitorous fuckwits in Congress along with their armies of DC bureaucrats and immediately hold free and fair elections.

But I doubt anything of the sort will happen.
Thing is, the Soviets were also losing their vassals in Eastern Europe and the Soviet economy was visibly crumbling.

Americans aren't starving in the streets, and we aren't seeing Mexico and Canada overthrow pro American governments, in favor of a Chinese supporting one.

The US's sheer prosperity(declining as it is) and the immense ignorance of the population means that imperial blunders don't have the same bite as they did for the Soviets or the old European powers.

The US navy hasn't lost control of global sea lanes, bread prices aren't going up that badly, and well it just isn't going to affect Joe citizen.

Until that changes, the US can continue to fuck up catastrophically yet still totter on.
 
The US does have a strong national identity and common culture. US culture at the moment is probably the most unified it’s been historically tbh.
I can't tell if you're being facetious, or retarded, or if you genuinely believe this. I'll give you the benefit of doubt and would like to ask you to explain in detail why you think "US culture at the moment is probably the most unified it's been historically tbh".
 
I can't tell if you're being facetious, or retarded, or if you genuinely believe this. I'll give you the benefit of doubt and would like to ask you to explain in detail why you think "US culture at the moment is probably the most unified it's been historically tbh".
I'll save you the time and give you the executive summary of the drivel he is going to write:

"Because we have a Democrat in the White House, duh!"
 
Lmao what? There was no strategic reasoning behind the delayed evactuation. Why do you think everyone in office is trying to shift the blame? We were already in the process of leaving the country. The amount of delusion in your so-called "plan" is hilarious. Your leader literally gave the Taliban the entire country in 3 days and fucked up so bad that we had to airlift out allies out of the U.S. embassy, something he said wasn't gonna happen. I know you have rampant TDS and seethe about Orange man since you lost that bet and looked like a fool, but this is just sad. Quit seething and eat the hat, it'll give you more credit.
The US does have a strong national identity and common culture. US culture at the moment is probably the most unified it’s been historically tbh.

Nah, I already stated why the delay was a good idea, but also risky.

The idea is simple. The main campaign season in Afghanistan starts around May. With the existing “don’t attack us” agreement already in place, we cuck the Taliban out of various strategic positions over a few months and make it harder for them to press their advantage as we’re drawing down. The US footprint by this point in country is pretty small by this point but it’s still enough to keep places out of their hands we don’t want them to have before we turn it over to the ANA. This burns away the time the Taliban have to really take crucial points of the country and (hopefully) means the Afghan government can establish a hold as the fighting winds down for the year, or at least means we can remove more people from the country. We did - lots of contractors left with the US military.

The risk is the longer we stay, the more the Taliban can work on bribing/flipping units of the police and army. This though had been happening since the withdrawal agreement was signed in 2020.

Nobody up top expected the implosion of the ANA/Police to be so fast or so wide spread, or the Taliban to move so quick everywhere.

The May deadline would have spilled into June anyway, simply because of the flood of people that would have tried to leave with us. Like happened now. The Afghan government really didn’t want to encourage translators and staffers to flee the country - it undermines their legitimacy. Same reason why no politician in charge was going to openly admit that “I don’t think the Afghan government has a chance in hell of lasting more than three months.” Looks bad. So does this but you can shift the blame around.
 
Well, USSR actually wasted close to a hundred thou armed goat fuckers and close to 2 million non-armed ones with dozen thou losses. Basically they genocided the fuck out of that country without any apologies nor reach around. US occupation was pretty weak sauce compared to that.

They withdrew in orderly columns and left behind only the shit they didn't care about leaving behind, they didn't run in panic. No one kicked them out. All this while US and Pakis supplied assloads of weapons.

I don't remember all the details of British retreat in 19th century, they had some really gnarly battles, even East India Co used Indian sepoys a lot, so less loss of Brits, but US is def taking the prize for the most FUBAR Afgan campain ever.
iirc the USSR realized they were wasting resources propping up a government that was useless (just like the one US was propping up) and the war was taking a toll on its military. They did leave a lot of materiel behind, Afghanistan is peppered with burnt out Soviet tanks everywhere and munitions were used against out troops.
Thing is, the Soviets were also losing their vassals in Eastern Europe and the Soviet economy was visibly crumbling.

Americans aren't starving in the streets, and we aren't seeing Mexico and Canada overthrow pro American governments, in favor of a Chinese supporting one.

The US's sheer prosperity(declining as it is) and the immense ignorance of the population means that imperial blunders don't have the same bite as they did for the Soviets or the old European powers.

The US navy hasn't lost control of global sea lanes, bread prices aren't going up that badly, and well it just isn't going to affect Joe citizen.

Until that changes, the US can continue to fuck up catastrophically yet still totter on.
The real starving started after the USSR fell. People were reduced to selling their housewares and clothing in the streets. And I remind you massive evictions are looming in the US, the covid restrictions robbed people of their livelihoods.
 

Kabul signing off.
ALL THESE WORLDS
ARE YOURS EXCEPT
AFGHANISTAN
ATTEMPT NO
LANDING THERE
USE THEM TOGETHER
USE THEM IN PEACE
 
I've seen you talk a lot in this thread, and you consistently have really fucking solid takes.
He's one of my favorites in the TDS thread. Nothing but solid opinions and great information.

What?
I think you need to do some research.
The USA has been there since Carter.
Start with reading about Charle Wilson. Him and glowers wanted to give the Soviets their "Vietnam" but we ended up just giving ourselves a 2nd Vietnam 40 years later.
Well yeah we funded various Mujahideen groups in the 80s and the like. I'm talking boots on the ground, mass deployment.
 

Kabul signing off.
Points 3 to 9 has been completely ignored by the political, military and intelligence class.
Unfortunately my post about the post-WWII Japanese model and how its being pushed everywhere while ignoring the historical leadup to a peaceful modern Japan got undone by the rollback but basically this shit is fucking obvious to practically anyone outside the political, military and intelligence class.

Its pretty clear half of the retards who wanted the Afghan war were in it just for laundering money to defense contractors and the other half were completely delusional thinking they could forcibly modernize Afghanistan without merciless brutality.
 
As I referenced previously, the British army, Sepoys, and civilian supply train stationed in Kabul were entirely wiped out except for two people.

1) William Brydon, an army surgeon, who was partially scalped by a Afghan sword, his life saved only because a magazine he kept under his hat to keep warm in the mountain passes blunted the blow.
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2) This chad.
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People forget how much fucking worse this could be.

I can't tell if you're being facetious, or retarded, or if you genuinely believe this. I'll give you the benefit of doubt and would like to ask you to explain in detail why you think "US culture at the moment is probably the most unified it's been historically tbh".
Well newfag let me explain. You faggots are mixing up culture with politics, and have been for a long time to the point where they’re synonymous for you. They aren’t the same. American culture like that of a lot of other colonial nations has been focused around regional identities. Culture is a set of shared stories, history, thought, expression, food, and (though this can vary in importance) language. Culture by its nature is changing all the time as people move around and share all these different things with one another. Sometimes an aspect of a culture takes over, and cultures steal from each other all the time. “Cultural appropriation” is fucking bullshit.

The thirteen colonies really didn’t have a concrete shared culture and while they agreed politically with one another on the concepts of independence and an enlightenment government, the idea of being an “American” didn’t really exist how you’d see it now, no matter how much some people want to pretend the founding fathers were paragons of culture. Every colony was founded for different reasons by different people in different areas, and their economies and shared experiences were, well, limited and didn’t interact as much. As time went on, you started to see more distinct flavors of culture pop up on a more regional level as the country expanded. Frontier life for example, was different than that on the coast and life in the north and south could and was very different. Within these regions some areas also absorbed in other cultures, like the French and Spanish influence in the south in various areas, the immigrant influx to the north and into the west, and so on.

This has established a variety of regional cultures that still hang around with their own linguistic twists and twangs. Culturally though a truly American identity has its roots as the industrial revolution starts to set in. Nationalism as an idea is in vogue, and as the country gets older, the more the various parts interact with one another and more and more bits get exchanged and the more we all felt we had things in common beyond sharing a general geographical area defined by lines on a map. Some parts of the culture of different regions spread a bit or grow more prominent, others fade away, but the thing that starts to unify the American culture is mass media and fast transport. I cannot stress enough how much mass media has effected the idea of American culture. Art, information, stories, etc are spread around faster than ever, giving everyone a larger shared pool of experiences. The American cultural umbrella also takes in lots of bits of foreign culture (mostly holidays, food, and some bits of language) and adds it as part of regional cultures and spreads it around. Today, you can easily find the life of your average person in say, New York, features many of the same experiences that someone living in San Diego would find on a daily basis. Cars, traffic, fast food joints, media, slang, furnishings, clothing, all of it is more similar now than it has ever been before in American history. Regional cultural differences still exist but compared to the 50’s? They’re not as prominent and mostly come down to accents.
 
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