Porn and Porncows

[Jan Ciągwa]

Nigger please.

You know a conservative country is starving for low-skilled workers when they start opening a "Guest Worker Program."

Those racist idiots will go extinct because of their belief in homogenity. Who can blame them though...
You know how starved companies in the states are for low skilled workers after the pandemic. Now imagine that for a negative natality rate country.

A 2017 government investigation found that most employers in the program were breaking labor laws, but Tanaka says he follows the rules. In his case, he says, “it’s a win-win” because he gets to keep his company alive while his workers earn the equivalent of $8.90 an hour, many times what they'd make back home.

Moreover, the government’s decision to raise average minimum hourly wages by a record ¥28, or 3.1%, from the previous year to ¥930 will heap extra financial burdens on already suffering businesses in the two industries.

Attracting engineers from India — home to scores of up-and-coming tech workers — has been a hot recruitment trend among Japanese firms.

TL;DR: raising the minimum wage to the point where restaurants can't pay for waiters without going bankrupt, so they import underpaid foreign labor. Typical.

Explain to me how does that invalidate my point that there're barely any low-qualifications jobs for idiots who are actually Japanese citizens? In order to drive a truck across countries or build bridges you still have to learn how, unless you want to accidentally kill someone in some workplace accident. You think they import retarded people there to do these jobs other Japs don't want to do?

 

[Fuck Y'all]

OnlyFans will purge the smut in October

Like the one nigga memed:
RIP BOZO

 

[CWCissey]

OnlyFans will purge the smut in October

Like the one nigga memed:
RIP BOZO

Lol they Tumblr'd themselves!

But where will the mediocre slags go? Back to Pornhub? Will they try their luck with professional porn sites? I only know they won't get actual jobs!

 

[Random Internet Person]

Related article
archive.org version
Yeah, Kotaku. Trust me, the article is better than you might assume.

IIRC Japanese men are so, uh, manly that women let them pass first through the door and such. I've heard a lot of stories about foreign men marrying Japanese women, but almost none about foreign women marrying Japanese men.

About agency in porn: it's a first-world capitalist country, so you might not be forced at gunpoint to stay in the kitchen but you're as good a person as your CV is, so if you're known as the girl who gives her employers headaches then your career is pretty much over. This doesn't apply just to porn. Not to mention the kind of women who voluntarily do porn for money are braindead in the first place and entitled to be tard-wrangled by the legal system IMO.

But hey, at least their artists told the UN to pound sand when they tried to ban Loli, am I right?

 

[DumbDude42]

Lol they Tumblr'd themselves!

But where will the mediocre slags go? Back to Pornhub? Will they try their luck with professional porn sites? I only know they won't get actual jobs!

give it a couple weeks and a new onlyfans style site will pop up, offering the exact same kind of platform and services, without the pesky new "no porn pls" rule

 

[cummytummies]

OnlyFans will purge the smut in October

Like the one nigga memed:
RIP BOZO

Wait, what?
Isn't this like if Pornhub decided to stop streaming porn?

I've never used Onlyfans but isn't it exclusively a porn/softporn site? I've never heard of any other creative using Onlyfans as a way to crowdfund their content.

 

[Random Internet Person]

give it a couple weeks and a new onlyfans style site will pop up, offering the exact same kind of platform and services, without the pesky new "no porn pls" rule

It’s like a life cycle, isn’t it?

 

[No Life Prince]

Unfortunately they will still allow nudity which is probably a majority of their revenue anyways.

 

[The Demon Pimp of Razgriz]

if a contract is crappy and unfair to you then you don't fucking sign it in the first place, that's what agency refers to.

How many people are actually trained in contract law and the legal nuances of contracts? There's a reason that most people with understanding have their lawyers reading over their contracts before they sign them. The women signing these contracts are barely out of high school and have no legal training whatsoever, and have nobody telling them they should get a lawyer. Most have no idea when they are signing a bad contract until after the fact. Most of these porn companies have these girls signing bogus contracts that aren't even legally enforceable in the first place, but they use the threat of legal action for "breaking contract" as a weapon over these girls to coerce them into having sex. Companies have tried to sue women over these bogus contracts before and have always lost. Because they are legally non-enforceable. But most of these girls don't understand the legal system or contract law and have no idea that their contract are invalid and they can't be used to force them to have sex.

nah man, if you sign up for porn, it's on you, plain and simple.
it'd be a different story if we were talking about girls getting kidnapped or trafficked into prostitution, but that's just not what's happening here. they decide to get into this business out of their own free will. there's no "do this or you starve to death" going on, no "do this or we kill your family", no "do this or we beat you to a pulp", nothing like that, just the classic "do this and we'll pay you for it". you can't do something like that and then retroactively declare yourself a victim when you eventually come to regret your choice later on. your choice, your responsibility, simple as.

You are forgetting that most of the Japanese women we're talking about are:

a) young girls literally right out of high school
b) are, in most cases, not trying to get into porn at all, but trying to get into modeling and acting, and sign bogus contracts that companies use to manipulate them into porn.

Signing a contract under duress or under false pretenses isn't legal, but these companies take advantage of these girl's naivete to get them into these situations. As was brought up in Nobita's video, many of these girls don't even know what porn is. Japan is a very conservative society and these things are just not talked about openly. Many girls needs to even be educated on what porn even is and what you actually do there.

 

[DumbDude42]

How many people are actually trained in contract law and the legal nuances of contracts? There's a reason that most people with understanding have their lawyers reading over their contracts before they sign them. The women signing these contracts are barely out of high school and have no legal training whatsoever, and have nobody telling them they should get a lawyer. Most have no idea when they are signing a bad contract until after the fact. Most of these porn companies have these girls signing bogus contracts that aren't even legally enforceable in the first place, but they use the threat of legal action for "breaking contract" as a weapon over these girls to coerce them into having sex. Companies have tried to sue women over these bogus contracts before and have always lost. Because they are legally non-enforceable. But most of these girls don't understand the legal system or contract law and have no idea that their contract are invalid and they can't be used to force them to have sex.


You are forgetting that most of the Japanese women we're talking about are:

a) young girls literally right out of high school
b) are, in most cases, not trying to get into porn at all, but trying to get into modeling and acting, and sign bogus contracts that companies use to manipulate them into porn.

Signing a contract under duress or under false pretenses isn't legal, but these companies take advantage of these girl's naivete to get them into these situations. As was brought up in Nobita's video, many of these girls don't even know what porn is. Japan is a very conservative society and these things are just not talked about openly. Many girls needs to even be educated on what porn even is and what you actually do there.

"but nobody told them to get a lawyer! how could they have known to be careful about what they sign!"
this is just ridiculous
if you want to argue that women shouldn't have full legal rights at 18 because they can't be trusted to make their own decisions, go for it. if not, this is about as convincing as saying that some dude who blew his money away at the blackjack table shouldn't be considered responsible for his loss because nobody had told him that gambling odds are shit lol

 

[The Demon Pimp of Razgriz]

if you want to argue that women shouldn't have full legal rights at 18 because they can't be trusted to make their own decisions, go for it. if not, this is about as convincing as saying that some dude who blew his money away at the blackjack table shouldn't be considered responsible for his loss because nobody had told him that gambling odds are shit lol

That's not what I'm at all and you are misrepresenting the situation and my argument. Expecting an 18 year old to be able to negotiate a complex legal contract is asinine. Most have no clue about contracts or business because they are 18 years old. They are basically kids, even if they aren't legally considered so. And most have no idea that they should even seek a lawyer in the first place. That's why Nobita's video encouraged education as key to preventing people from getting victimized. You can't reasonably expect anyone at that age to be able to avoid getting taken advantage of by some sleazy porn producer who is actively and illegally doing everything possible to mislead them.

 

[emptyblu]

Stop infantilizing women this thread is starting to sound like twitter “but the poor dummy dumb women don’t know what they are getting themselves into!”
suprise! sex work in general is a sleazy and shady business, these women wanted to be whores, they got to be whores, but now they feel dirty because being a whore isn’t as fun as they imagined it would be.
So now they are lashing out trying to blame the system they wanted to join and defend in the first place.

 

[AngryItalianAmerican]

A 2017 government investigation found that most employers in the program were breaking labor laws, but Tanaka says he follows the rules. In his case, he says, “it’s a win-win” because he gets to keep his company alive while his workers earn the equivalent of $8.90 an hour, many times what they'd make back home.

Moreover, the government’s decision to raise average minimum hourly wages by a record ¥28, or 3.1%, from the previous year to ¥930 will heap extra financial burdens on already suffering businesses in the two industries.

Attracting engineers from India — home to scores of up-and-coming tech workers — has been a hot recruitment trend among Japanese firms.

TL;DR: raising the minimum wage to the point where restaurants can't pay for waiters without going bankrupt, so they import underpaid foreign labor. Typical.

Explain to me how does that invalidate my point that there're barely any low-qualifications jobs for idiots who are actually Japanese citizens? In order to drive a truck across countries or build bridges you still have to learn how, unless you want to accidentally kill someone in some workplace accident. You think they import retarded people there to do these jobs other Japs don't want to do?

I don't conflate truck driving and construction with low skilled labor, since in most developed countries those are activities that are kept from the entry-level workers by the barriers of unions and certifications.

Unlike us in the states, that import increasingly desperate illegals for increasingly lower salaries to increasingly lower our living standards. Japan, being isolated by land, with a thousand year old isolationist policy and an actually declining population should have the off the books teens first job shit covered.

That leads me to believe Japs are turning into lazy negroes. Or don't have the political will to actually address the excessive fiscalization enforced by "their" government.

Then again, those faggots have such a draconian gun policy, they make Nancy Pelosi look like Wayne LaPierre. They are trained to take it in the ass anyway.
Edit: syntax!

 

[AngryItalianAmerican]

Stop infantilizing women this thread is starting to sound like twitter “but the poor dummy dumb women don’t know what they are getting themselves into!”
suprise! sex work in general is a sleazy and shady business, these women wanted to be whores, they got to be whores, but now they feel dirty because being a whore isn’t as fun as they imagined it would be.
So now they are lashing out trying to blame the system they wanted to join and defend in the first place.

I'm not going to exonerate the hoes of their mistake. But I'll add a lot of the blame on the parents.

You have to be sub-human scum for your daughter to get naked for money as her first choice.

 

[Anchors-Away]

OnlyFans allowing "fitness" and "art" related content should have been the warning sign. Porn for most start ups, is a short term venture. Either OnlyFans sells up to a rival porn firm (likely the intended route of this drama, what with the death knell being set for October) or they cause various splinter sides as they target more graphic content.

Frankly the death of OnlyFans is one I encourage. Far too many young people doing it. Even on dating apps, I'll find some chick trying to plug it apart of her bio.

 

[Random Internet Person]

OnlyFans allowing "fitness" and "art" related content should have been the warning sign. Porn for most start ups, is a short term venture. Either OnlyFans sells up to a rival porn firm (likely the intended route of this drama, what with the death knell being set for October) or they cause various splinter sides as they target more graphic content.

Frankly the death of OnlyFans is one I encourage. Far too many young people doing it. Even on dating apps, I'll find some chick trying to plug it apart of her bio.

Honestly, there'll probably be some new site that may just be advertised as "a haven for OF exiles and refugees". Once some porn stars or Twitch streamers get on there, the cycle will start again.

 

[ZMOT]

tfw the porn thread has more nuanced discussion of culture and politics than the spastics in A&N. God bless you coomers.

it's A&N, anything else has better discussion.

They do play a part in the exploitation of women, though. By saying that porn is an fun and amazing experience they're more or less living ads for the companies that are exploiting women.

Their talk about how good it is to work as a porn actor is causing other women do follow in their footsteps. Most of which suffers from it. And while those women ultimately have themselves to blame for it, the AV actors do deserve some of the blame for it.

it's called personal responsibility, and counts for everyone involved.
also, one shoe store fucking over it's workers doesn't mean every store does. better close every store then and discredit the whole shoe store industry. but what about the people who like to work in a shoe store who treats it's workers right?

truth of the matter is every country and industry will have people abusing and exploiting it because they can, because there is no perfect society and human nature is fucked up. you'll always have people who fuck for money, some because they like it, some because they think it's easy cash. and since someone pays for it you'll inevitably get people who try to profit from it one way or another.

But hey, at least their artists told the UN to pound sand when they tried to ban Loli, am I right?

yes, because nuance and context apparently doesn't exist.

 

[Jan Ciągwa]

I saw texts like "heyyy check out my OnlyFans " on Pornhub channels. I think it's going to go that way, OnlyFans will be kid-friendly but nothing will actually change.

 

[Smaug's Smokey Hole]

I saw texts like "heyyy check out my OnlyFans " on Pornhub channels. I think it's going to go that way, OnlyFans will be kid-friendly but nothing will actually change.

But it will be hard to sell "check out my onlyfans" for someone that doesn't want to be associated with porn. In the eyes of the public it would be much, much easier to rebrand Stormfront as the site for a Stormwatch spinoff.

 

[Captain Fitzbattleaxe]

it's called personal responsibility, and counts for everyone involved.

I'm not saying that the idiots that go into porn doesn’t have any personal responsibility for the consequences. But the people who sold them on the idea do deserve some of the blame for it. Certainly not all and not much of it, but a small part of the blame lies on them.