Clownfish TV / Thomas & Kambrea Pratt / Kneon & Geeky Sparkles - The Self-Proclaimed Nemeses of Kevin Smith, Profiting off of Nerd Outrage, Part of the Fandom Menace, Gaslit by a Cartoon

[instythot]

I agree with this. If Sqiudking does become a lolcow it should be because of his own actions. Cringy let's plays are a dime in a dozen honestly. He should be left alone in the meantime.

I think it depends on how retarded the parents are. If the beta and the shrew get their own sub, the kids will have their own threads like Ethan Ralph's kids and any of DSP's future children

 

[annnanovichova]

why wouldn't she crank it up to 10 on her dumb art-baby

This us her header.

 

[instythot]

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This us her header.

Ugh. The number of illustrators who should actually put themselves next to Waterson is quite small and does not include the shrew

 

[Random Internet Person]

Maybe I am too much of a zoomer to understand, but what is so great about He-Man anyway? It looks kind of retarded, even the old stuff.

Yeah the old stuff is... Not that great actually. Don't know why people defend it vehemently and make it out to be one of the greatest shows of the 80s

It’s the same thing that’s been going on since 2014 and GamerGate: people feeling their hobbies are being infiltrated and taken by posers who want to be more “inclusive” and “accessible”, only to pervert it and make it a mockery of what it was until all the magic is gone and it’s just another IP.

Honestly, you could argue it’s been going on since The Big Bang Theory came out in 2007, but this thinking I think has been growing since The Last Jedi was released.

 

[LoZza]

It’s the same thing that’s been going on since 2014 and GamerGate: people feeling their hobbies are being infiltrated and taken by posers who want to be more “inclusive” and “accessible”, only to pervert it and make it a mockery of what it was until all the magic is gone and it’s just another IP.

Honestly, you could argue it’s been going on since The Big Bang Theory came out in 2007, but this thinking I think has been growing since The Last Jedi was released.

Blame corporations with pushing their media out too soon, compromising artistic integrity and quality. Also the pushing of inclusion and accessibility could be attributed to Corporate Social Responsibility

 

[Random Internet Person]

 

[SuperShibuyaFighter]

It's not from the first page, but early chapters, that they use as promo in their indegogo. Which makes it worse, because they think it's holding up and is good enough to promote the book. This is the sample THEY CHOSE as good.

But does it improve? Looking at this random mix of pages from the internet:

These are the newest covers, Kneon lines clearly became more steady due to amount he was drawin, but he lacks any kind of.... I don't know. Talent? Pleasant eye experience? Colours are terrible, use of light and shadow non existent, and WTF is going on with her hair? Composition? What is that? He became better draftsman, but not better quality artist. There seem to be no self reflection in his work and he repeats the same mistakes again again anad again. Which deosn't surprise me, because he is always selling himself to his audience as seasoned pro while shitting on others. With this.

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He clearly wants to draw and be an artist, but lacks the qualities that make somebody good at their craft - insight, analisys and being able to look at one work from afar and self critique. His skills upped in years not because he' went on a quest to improve, but he draftd more,. There is no selfawarness in his improvement, because my guess is, going how he presents him on YT, he thinks he's good enough. And that's the most cringey part.

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Or I can go into how boring their panneling is. Especially in their action scenes. Or the colouring with no awarness of colour theory to pop information on the page. Frankly the colours even managed to regress. Or the lazy ink work they'd shit on if it was a pro drawing.
Kneon clearly used to draw manga and he now suffers from what is dubbed manga nose syndrome, when yougo from manga to realism, but keep the placement of the nose and eyes which makes the chracters look like they have too long noses and eyes end up too high, because noses are bogger and eyes are smaller.

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It would be so easy to fix his work, but he doesn't even try. Even with their videos- they put zero effort into editing or presenting content in a coherent manner, and it gets worse with every Geeky's shriek. They stopped trying when their begging for new subs worked and they got to 100k.

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This is why they are my personal cows, even if they don't produce all that much drama, They produce work of this low quality and think they are better than other artists in the industry (they made what? 8? 10? vids on not Starfire and shat on it how far it would go).

Oh and because they look more like retarded siblings than anything else.

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I don't. At least not 100%. They work is really uneven and subpar in this comics and I have no doubt that really no publisher would be interested without major redraws and editorial input.
Here's the thing. Good work defends itself. Thier work, even if amazing writing and great storytelling, is superficially ugly at first glance. But it doesn't have great storytelling and I guess it doesn't have all that great writing. And publishers recognised it as having no potential in print. Given how adverse they are to any improvement, I have no doubt Clownfish'd have rejected any kind of editorial input too. So I do believe they are telling themselves that they were not a good polisocial fit, or even that someone could have said it to them, but more like in the context- leave us alone, please, we don't want your book here, but we're too polite to tell you it's shit.

Why is bad artwork such a common thing with Lolcows

Also here is a musical interpretation of who wears the pants in this relationship.

 

[Haramburger]

I agree with this. If Sqiudking does become a lolcow it should be because of his own actions. Cringy let's plays are a dime in a dozen honestly. He should be left alone in the meantime.

It's inevitable, when you grow up a fat consoomer and see your parents never leave the home to work, and your first "job" is playing video games online you're doomed to embarrass yourself publicly and soon. At least Pewdiepie went to college and did menial jobs like working a food stand to get by originally. Dream is another example of a fat child immediately switching to streaming after high school and making a fool of themselves.

Why is bad artwork such a common thing with Lolcows

In this case, I think working on Scrooge comics non-stop is to blame. They are highly stylized, but it's a very fast, minimalist style to crank out pages without a lot of detail, and the duck anatomy is so specialized it's no wonder his humans look childish and immature. He's worlds-better than Chris-Chan, but several notches below people like Phil & Kaja Foglio(whom I feel like their work most resembles; they draw shitty but expressive faces, and make up for it by leaning heavy into T&A).

 

[Dona Morte]

Their hate chub for Disney is RIDICULOUS.
You all were more then happy to suck the mouse when I suspect you were making more money.
Disney is in free fall and in debt yes. They are doing some accounting black magic, but how does spamming 50 videos about how they suck help.
The comic- I was considering buying back when I still watched them, dodged one there.

 

[Virus418]

Regarding the SquidKing debate, realize that Geeky has gone on record numerous times about how she won't hold her tongue if she is debating a minor online if they say something stupid because they shouldn't get a free pass. By that logic, I see no issue with us criticizing SquidKing's actions as he is not only of age but also participates in the channel's content.

 

[BHWuser]

Regarding the SquidKing debate, realize that Geeky has gone on record numerous times about how she won't hold her tongue if she is debating a minor online if they say something stupid because they shouldn't get a free pass. By that logic, I see no issue with us criticizing SquidKing's actions as he is not only of age but also participates in the channel's content.

I disagree with you. For no other reason than i'm autistic and am getting more out of watching this debate than the lolcows themselves.

In all seriousness, it's good if we limit it to what they actually do themselves. I think we'd be just as shitty if we let a comment from one of their parents be attributed to Squid King without any way to vet it. Speculate, sure, but holding it as true is something I think the farms has always tried to realize is dumb.

 

[LoZza]

It's not from the first page, but early chapters, that they use as promo in their indegogo. Which makes it worse, because they think it's holding up and is good enough to promote the book. This is the sample THEY CHOSE as good.

But does it improve? Looking at this random mix of pages from the internet:

These are the newest covers, Kneon lines clearly became more steady due to amount he was drawin, but he lacks any kind of.... I don't know. Talent? Pleasant eye experience? Colours are terrible, use of light and shadow non existent, and WTF is going on with her hair? Composition? What is that? He became better draftsman, but not better quality artist. There seem to be no self reflection in his work and he repeats the same mistakes again again anad again. Which deosn't surprise me, because he is always selling himself to his audience as seasoned pro while shitting on others. With this.

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He clearly wants to draw and be an artist, but lacks the qualities that make somebody good at their craft - insight, analisys and being able to look at one work from afar and self critique. His skills upped in years not because he' went on a quest to improve, but he draftd more,. There is no selfawarness in his improvement, because my guess is, going how he presents him on YT, he thinks he's good enough. And that's the most cringey part.

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Or I can go into how boring their panneling is. Especially in their action scenes. Or the colouring with no awarness of colour theory to pop information on the page. Frankly the colours even managed to regress. Or the lazy ink work they'd shit on if it was a pro drawing.
Kneon clearly used to draw manga and he now suffers from what is dubbed manga nose syndrome, when yougo from manga to realism, but keep the placement of the nose and eyes which makes the chracters look like they have too long noses and eyes end up too high, because noses are bogger and eyes are smaller.

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It would be so easy to fix his work, but he doesn't even try. Even with their videos- they put zero effort into editing or presenting content in a coherent manner, and it gets worse with every Geeky's shriek. They stopped trying when their begging for new subs worked and they got to 100k.

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This is why they are my personal cows, even if they don't produce all that much drama, They produce work of this low quality and think they are better than other artists in the industry (they made what? 8? 10? vids on not Starfire and shat on it how far it would go).

Oh and because they look more like retarded siblings than anything else.

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I don't. At least not 100%. They work is really uneven and subpar in this comics and I have no doubt that really no publisher would be interested without major redraws and editorial input.
Here's the thing. Good work defends itself. Thier work, even if amazing writing and great storytelling, is superficially ugly at first glance. But it doesn't have great storytelling and I guess it doesn't have all that great writing. And publishers recognised it as having no potential in print. Given how adverse they are to any improvement, I have no doubt Clownfish'd have rejected any kind of editorial input too. So I do believe they are telling themselves that they were not a good polisocial fit, or even that someone could have said it to them, but more like in the context- leave us alone, please, we don't want your book here, but we're too polite to tell you it's shit.

Their artwork just reminded me of those "how to draw anime" tutorial books, it's really that basic

 

[annnanovichova]

Why is bad artwork such a common thing with Lolcows

It's easy. Good art needs self reflection and self critiscism. Most lolcow are incapable of either.
(tho to be fair, sometimes there's a lolcow that is good at art, but those are rare, mostly because they lolcowism comes from their calculated behaviour and not character itself.)

In this case, I think working on Scrooge comics non-stop is to blame. They are highly stylized, but it's a very fast, minimalist style to crank out pages without a lot of detail, and the duck anatomy is so specialized it's no wonder his humans look childish and immature. He's worlds-better than Chris-Chan, but several notches below people like Phil & Kaja Foglio(whom I feel like their work most resembles; they draw shitty but expressive faces, and make up for it by leaning heavy into T&A).

You're not wrong. Disney comics are drawn like animation - on model and they often come with thick bible on design. And even with all this help, this is the result. I hate using word "talent" in general, because it suggest skill without work, but in this case- yeah, that's it. Something just doesn't cklic for him and lack of talent is appropriate.



Even compared to legendary Don Rosa. Just how GOOD and simingly EASY his art is.


Or his recent art posted last month. The coloured one is just such a mes.


I went and looke up Foglios, because I had no idea who they were, and JEEZUS. This is high school manga level of art, drawn with crayola pencil when you can't afford good supplies. OMG. I have flashbacks.

Their artwork just reminded me of those "how to draw anime" tutorial books, it's really that basic

Correct. This is the same type of people who drew them. Good enough, because they put in those 10k hours into their craft, but just not intelligent? observant? coordinated? self reflecting? idk what enough to be able to take their work to great level. Their work is generally souless and frankly cringe when you look slightly closer.

 

[instythot]

Their artwork just reminded me of those "how to draw anime" tutorial books, it's really that basic

It's not such an issue now, but highly detailed drawings were undesirable when webcomics began. Smaller resolution/filesize made it easier to use your dumb site full of images at the time. Something that still looked like it was supposed to at a lower resolution was ideal

There is no reason they shouldn't be expected to upgrade these for print, especially since they asked for money to print this shit

 

[A Watchful Ghost]

Regarding the SquidKing debate, realize that Geeky has gone on record numerous times about how she won't hold her tongue if she is debating a minor online if they say something stupid because they shouldn't get a free pass. By that logic, I see no issue with us criticizing SquidKing's actions as he is not only of age but also participates in the channel's content.

Part of me is hopeful he sees the path they are walking being very self-destructive. And pretty much BTFO them out of his life to be with the rest of the world. Since their hypocrisy remains one of the strongest reasons why they got a thread in the first place. And the fact they are too stubborn and autistic to realize that makes it more clear they cannot uphold the same standards they preach.

They can hate the corporate world all they want. (Hell, I do too) but they shouldn't be mad if people take issue with their behavior.

 

[OldManBoomer]

One of the dumber fanboys of the channel that ran out of their old server is currently getting ratiod on Twitter.

I am genuinely amused. There's some HILARIOUS stuff about this guy that I should probably get into sometime.

Direct link: https://twitter.com/Masterge77/status/1429303951556595715?s=20

 

[Old Man Mario]

One of the dumber fanboys of the channel that ran out of their old server is currently getting ratiod on Twitter.

I am genuinely amused. There's some HILARIOUS stuff about this guy that I should probably get into sometime.

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Direct link: https://twitter.com/Masterge77/status/1429303951556595715?s=20

Please share the stories.
If anything, it's better than the Squid debate. It's funny to me that everyone is focused on him when I think he is about 18 and the daughter is probably Jr high or a freshman. Tbh I don't really know. I've said over and over they were only mentioned just as information.

The Child of the Gunt, Xander, had a thread before he was born. I don't think anything I did was like that.

An update on Masters Revelation figures, I finally saw some at my local store. There were three left. It's the first time I've seen any since they were released. Good thing that this hurt toy sales as much as The Clownfish said it would! If not, I never would have seen the few left!
Fucking idiots.

 

[TheMadAutist]

Put summaries for fuck sake!

 

[OldManBoomer]

Please share the stories.
If anything, it's better than the Squid debate. It's funny to me that everyone is focused on him when I think he is about 18 and the daughter is probably Jr high or a freshman. Tbh I don't really know. I've said over and over they were only mentioned just as information.

The Child of the Gunt, Xander, had a thread before he was born. I don't think anything I did was like that.

An update on Masters Revelation figures, I finally saw some at my local store. There were three left. It's the first time I've seen any since they were released. Good thing that this hurt toy sales as much as The Clownfish said it would! If not, I never would have seen the few left!
Fucking idiots.

I'll DM you in a second. But as far as the toys go; they're currently shelf-warming because the distribution finally caught up with the demand for those specific toys. Origins, on the other hand, can't seem to stay on the shelf.

Edit: Masterge deleted the Twitter post because he was getting dunked on so hard. So now, he came back with one ALMOST as dumb.

 

[Old Man Mario]

I'll DM you in a second. But as far as the toys go; they're currently shelf-warming because the distribution finally caught up with the demand for those specific toys. Origins, on the other hand, can't seem to stay on the shelf.

Edit: Masterge deleted the Twitter post because he was getting dunked on so hard. So now, he came back with one ALMOST as dumb.

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None of it peg warms here. I think Orko could have bricked in Prince Adam's mouth and the figures would still sell. It is just another instance of Clownfish not knowing what the fuck they're talking about.