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[One Quick Post]

Hololive animator and game developer Tian Nya posting briefly on Twitter about the clipper drama, which has lead me into a rabbit hole of clipfag drama content.


(Twitter Link) (Archive)

Found this interesting post linked in the replies, regarding Hololive clipper Kamitsurugi using stolen art as a paid membership reward.

(Twitter Link) (Archive)

Plus a link to a Reddit post (archive) with 4K upvotes at the time of posting about Kamitsurugi being a lazy shit and a poor quality clip channel. The guy allegedly emailed Kamitsurugi to tell him to source his clips properly like everyone else, and the reply was less than professional to say the least.



And another complaining about Iroha Translation's dramabait (archive) with 5K upvotes as of posting. Lots of people in the comments shitting on him for his out of context clips and poor translations, as well as his choice of heavy subject matter when he lacks the skill to accurately translate it.



None of this is exactly news, but people are starting to get fired up about it. This could lead to some interesting drama.

 

[Avokado]

View attachment 2466825Pippa is confirmed one of Artia zealot simps who would defend Artia regardless how much scandal and horrible personality of Artia. (I guess those wumao who laugh at the gullible of western hardcore fans had some merit after all)

what if... she was Artia

 

[Just a Basic Plebian]

So for those who didn't fancy sitting and watching during the entire Minecraft EN relay streams, I have captured a final image of what each one was making now with a bit of description. This was the order of the relay now:
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Ill put it all in a spoiler section because there going to be a fair amount of pictures now, and I'm not that much of a bastard to take an entire page now.

Spoiler: EN Portal Relay

1st up was Matsuri who made some banners near the chests which has Welcome and some art banners. Nothing to grand now, just simple stuff but then again I didn't expect much from Matsuri. Link to Matsuri Stream
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2nd was Ollie who made a pretty sick little building with the welcome banners Matsuri made, considering she made this in 30 mins was quite impressive. Worth watching her bit if you interested in the detail of it all. Link to Ollies Stream
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3rd was Reine who made a little bridge thing to add onto Ollies building now. Even got a little pond under it, but was there any doubt from this fishing fanatic now. Link to Reine Stream
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4th was Mama Mio who was making a railway, unfortunately she didn't finish it completely on her section but she did finish it off while the other were doing their bit. Link to Mio Stream
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5th was Lamy who made a little well next to the bridge now near the end she did fill it up a few axolotls now not like they got a few thousand of them in boxes now. Link to Lamy Stream
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6th was Miko who I think did arguably the most and what she did was the most helpful/practical. I don't know if she copied or brought over her giant map she made before but the giant map id say is one the coolest things in the server now, I know it took her AGES for her to get it updated and all lined up correctly. She even made some beds and even little book in Elite English. Ill put her screenshots at the end. Link to Miko Stream
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7th was Moona who made a very detailed sort of dungeon area, her Minecraft art style have always been up there now. I know she didn't quite finish it in the 30 mins she had, in later screenshots it looks very nice indeed with water and all that. Link to Moona Stream
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8th was Botan who honestly at first I thought she was making the Stargate of all things, and she isn't far off to be honest. She made the actual portal I believe to link the servers now, having the vines on it gives it a nice rustic look now. Link to Botans Stream
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9th was Mel who bless her I know she is no Minecraft pro but she gotten a lot better as of late. Think she made some sort mini base thing or prison, whichever you want to call it now. Link to Mel Stream
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10th was Risu our local tree rat who funny enough made a tree house, Its a bit basic as she changed her design a few times, but it looks pretty good in other view points where she carried on working on it now. Link to Risu Stream
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11th was the best horror now Hachama, who with her classic grand design went epic scaling and just built a god dam tower behind the portal. Never change Hachama. Link to Hachama Stream
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12th was our lovable good ball Nene, who made some sort of river way thing from the link point to another portal. She died at the end which was pretty amusing now. Link to Nene stream
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Bonus pictures that were posted to Twitter from a couple of the girls now:

Spoiler: Bonus Pictures

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And if you want a a 30 min summary with all the girls, seeing all their works which also got worked on slightly more at the end, Kanata that organised the whole event did an overview at the end:

And I'm done. That was a fair bit of organising now.

I honestly Find Miko's addition so sweet, ngl.

Also, upcoming chicken stream seems interesting

Holobirds + Nene-types + Zombie

 

[augment]

If avoiding clipper/TL isn't a big fat motivational boost for you picking up japanese seriously, I don't know what is.

 

[I am not here]

I dunno what a lot of you are bitching and moaning about, it's not like we only talk about Pippa ITT, far from it. No one is forcing you fucks to only post about Pippa. Earlier today people were bitching over someone tweeting something at Gura "menacingly" or some shit, I didn't bother reading, I don't give a shit over twitter non-drama.

If you don't like what's on the thread right now, how about you link something you're looking forward to instead of complain?

I think most were looking forward to EN2 debut but then "inconvinience" happened. It would've been a post race between their debut and Pippa's vomit inducing spicy noodles.

I'm just here for the Vtubers and the free space to speak my mind about em without becoming a pariah. At least on the farms, if I have a hot take or autistic sperg about something, I'm guaranteed a good laugh from either the replies or my internet badges Whether its all Hololive, tribal war between Holos and Nijis, the Pippa show ft. Zax, etc etc. as long as I can post DOOG Doge Korone, I ain't got no beef unless its a really spicy hot take

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Hololive animator and game developer Tian Nya posting briefly on Twitter about the clipper drama, which has lead me into a rabbit hole of clipfag drama content.

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(Twitter Link) (Archive)

Found this interesting post linked in the replies, regarding Hololive clipper Kamitsurugi using stolen art as a paid membership reward.
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(Twitter Link) (Archive)

Plus a link to a Reddit post (archive) with 4K upvotes at the time of posting about Kamitsurugi being a lazy shit and a poor quality clip channel. The guy allegedly emailed Kamitsurugi to tell him to source his clips properly like everyone else, and the reply was less than professional to say the least.

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And another complaining about Iroha Translation's dramabait (archive) with 5K upvotes as of posting. Lots of people in the comments shitting on him for his out of context clips and poor translations, as well as his choice of heavy subject matter when he lacks the skill to accurately translate it.

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None of this is exactly news, but people are starting to get fired up about it. This could lead to some interesting drama.

sure hope it gains a lil more traction than when rival clippers were trying to out sodafunk for being the faker he is. But its the Internet and if you can slap a female voice on a female looking animu char, the Internet will eat it up and ask for more. Crediting though, is a big enuff thing because exposure doesn't pay bills and sometimes its just out right theft.

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EDIT: huh... never knew that

the day Friend and Doog do a duo collab... IT WILL BE GLORIOUS

 

[TiredCatto]

Yeah, from this description, Anya comes from a rich family. To not just regularly going on a trip overseas, but also satying on hotels, and her collecting perfume as well. Her advice of visiting just Bali makes me think she's quite an elitist towards her own countrymen. That kind of advice is usually said only by people like that here

yeah if you heard by yourself, especially during her describing "yeah if you going to Indonesia, maybe just go to Bali" you can tell she is a bit elitist, + dissing how Malaysia and Indonesia wifi suck dick comparing Singapore mobile data. not that anything she said wrong, it's true but you can tell where it's come from. even for a conglomerate daughters like Reine herself she still better behave not showing her elitist as you said about how she is coming from anime elitist from Indonesia

Yeah, one of the reason why I believe the artist theory is because I believe there is no way that the Myths member won't have a say for Council's audition.

wait isn't the current rrat, Kronii is Ina artist friend? especially after that 10-minute drawing after debut + using it as Kronii profile picture.

it was an interesting theory that the rat herself is an aussie, my assumption is only her timezone is 3 hours away from ID, or 5 hours away from JP. if she living in Melbourne. her tag saying illustray is probably that weird slang aussie use such McDonald as Mackey or afternoon as Arvo. i always have this under impression that one chick who has a friendly timezone with JP is mostly just one token hafu chick that needs to be put in, in EN branch lmao

 

[sbm]

The EN managers are westerners though aren't they, Calli's manager has always seemed super casual for a "Japanese company" and I remember a clip of Suisei talking about interacting with an EN manager at the office and from the story it sounded like they weren't Japanese, so the immediate assumption of "this seems out of line for a japanese company" is odd as well.

yes the EN1 team are all non-japanese, Cover's job postings for EN positions advertised this specifically several months ago, though they took that blurb out in the latest postings

 

[I am not here]

wait isn't the current rrat, Kronii is Ina artist friend? especially after that 10-minute drawing after debut + using it as Kronii profile picture.

it is either Kronii is Ina's artist friend or the artist is within Kronii's circle of friends who knew, had her design leaked, and thus a 10 min drawing was available. The rrat implies either Kronii is Ina's artist friend or Kronii is an artist herself. Almost same, but slightly different I feel

 

[Airihead]

it is either Kronii is Ina's artist friend or the artist is within Kronii's circle of friends who knew, had her design leaked, and thus a 10 min drawing was available. The rrat implies either Kronii is Ina's artist friend or Kronii is an artist herself. Almost same, but slightly different I feel

Wasnt it the artist of the group shot of council that was Ina's friend? And the 10 min art artist was associated with a recently graduated vtuber separate from that?

 

[augment]

Let's gooo yall

 

[I am not here]

Let's gooo yall

don't forget

which happens later

 

[Girlboy69]

I gotta say, I really like Ollie's new costume over her old one. This one looks much better imo. She looks like some sort of Muslim folklore version of a zombie/revenant/reanimated corpse or something.

 

[Airihead]

Kson going on an existential journey while cosplaying 2B

 

[That Collab Hurt Me]

I gotta say, I really like Ollie's new costume over her old one. This one looks much better imo. She looks like some sort of Muslim folklore version of a zombie/revenant/reanimated corpse or something.

It's traditional Indonesian Bridal gear, so zombie bride if you will

 

[Bjaki]

wait isn't the current rrat, Kronii is Ina artist friend? especially after that 10-minute drawing after debut + using it as Kronii profile picture.

The main theory is that Kronii is actually recently retired VirPro Vtuber Seru Kisen, who was friends, or at the very least acquainted with the artist who dropped the Kronii art, Katzchen.

Ina's Australian friend, Namie is the uncredited artist who drew the piece with the 5 of them in it at the end of the debut PV. The fact it is wasn't credited like all the other art was a red flag to people as that's exactly what happened with Ina and her art with the Myth debuts.

 

[Sekrion Nexus Mind]

It's always been a choice between Hololive or Niji. Guess when the farm regulars found Pippa, it became the Pippa show, with all the schizo paranoia, obsession with zax, unnecessary shit flinging, and maybe the constant Pippa schizo posting.

Its just one of those cases where eventually something had to give in the thread. Guess it was Pippa. I don't blame her tho. It was a choice between the thread devolving into tribalism wars (which, we can occasionally see get heated) or likely the thread would turn into HoloFes 24/7. That or just constant criticism of how corpo Vtubers are bad, indies who are based are good etc etc.

My take is that the constant attention given to Zax.. almost sounds like y'all thristpost for him just as much as Pippa. And the entire /vt/ (or just the boards in general) vs farms thing is a tale as old as time, so its no surprise.

Forgive me, but I think I made a mistake and was misunderstood in the first part. When I mean "the thread" I mean the /pcg/ thread, not this thread which was what I mean by wanting to find other opinions on the other PC members/ stealing shitposts. I already know about the constant changing of topics here which I ignore as I just either "don't want to fuel the fire" or "I know nothing". And as for the "schizo paranoia, obsession with zax, unnecessary shit flinging, and constant Pippa schizo posting" it was more towards the /pcg/ and not necessarily here. So I apologize for the mistake.

 

[augment]

 

[RiverBear]

Do smaller companies have this unwritten rule not to overlap announcements with Hololive's? Why should they care what Hololive does - it doesn't affect them.

I've seen multiple smaller Vtubers now that had to reschedule their announcements to earlier because of the HoloEN fiasco.

 

[Burnt Fish]

I dunno what a lot of you are bitching and moaning about, it's not like we only talk about Pippa ITT, far from it. No one is forcing you fucks to only post about Pippa. Earlier today people were bitching over someone tweeting something at Gura "menacingly" or some shit, I didn't bother reading, I don't give a shit over twitter non-drama.

If you don't like what's on the thread right now, how about you link something you're looking forward to instead of complain?

Not that your post in particular is any better than the complaints your responding to. if you're gonna try and flex your ability to scroll passed things you dislike or don't care about, you kinda defeat the point when at the same time you're reeing that people are complaining about your oshi being talked about.

I don't personally give 2 shits about the pippa posting one way or the other but "If you don't like it than just post about something else" is some reddit hugbox mindset unable to accept even a little criticism and instead say everyone should just post stuff they're looking forward to. If it can be brought up in this thread to praise it others can also dislike it. same applies even to this as I'm sure not everyone will agree with me. Welcome to the internet.

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Do smaller companies have this unwritten rule not to overlap announcements with Hololive's? Why should they care what Hololive does - it doesn't affect them.

I've seen multiple smaller Vtubers now that had to reschedule their announcements to earlier because of the HoloEN fiasco.

Of course it does affect them. Many of their viewers are also hololive viewers, when Hololive has a big stream going on it's going to cut into their viewership as well so it would be silly to not plan around it to some extent. Like imagine the ghost town of an announcment stream that would have occurred if any other company tried to run an announcement stream during coco's graduation. The same way that TV networks in the US wouldn't run something they really care about at the same time as the superbowl.

If you care about getting eyes on your announcement you obviously won't choose to do the announcement at a time you're almost guaranteed to get fewer than normal views.

 

[reinigen]

wait isn't the current rrat, Kronii is Ina artist friend? especially after that 10-minute drawing after debut + using it as Kronii profile picture.

it is either Kronii is Ina's artist friend or the artist is within Kronii's circle of friends who knew, had her design leaked, and thus a 10 min drawing was available. The rrat implies either Kronii is Ina's artist friend or Kronii is an artist herself. Almost same, but slightly different I feel

Incorrect, see below

The main theory is that Kronii is actually recently retired VirPro Vtuber Seru Kisen, who was friends, or at the very least acquainted with the artist who dropped the Kronii art, Katzchen.

Ina's Australian friend, Namie is the uncredited artist who drew the piece with the 5 of them in it at the end of the debut PV. The fact it is wasn't credited like all the other art was a red flag to people as that's exactly what happened with Ina and her art with the Myth debuts.

Correct. Since the same kind of thing happened with the HoloMyth cover art being done by Ina, people assume the same thing is happening with Namie. We know the artist is most likely the friend of Ina's, but we don't know who in the groups she is. Probably not Kronii however, because Kronii's actions can be accounted for thanks to the actions summed up in my quoted post below.

Quoting myself to keep the info train linked together. New 4chan theory is in regards to Ouro Kronii.

So, obviously we only found out details about them last night in the premier video. However, 10 minutes after the premier, this particular piece of fanart was posted to Kronii's fanart Tag.
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https://twitter.com/RatedKatzchen/status/1427437549694328858

Clearly entirely too good to be whipped up in 10 minutes, correct? The assumed order of operations is this:

• Share design early to previous life friends, knowing it was an amicable departure and that they'll support you in the future
• One of them supports you way too hard and drops fan art far too detailed 6 minutes after your design becomes public, making it easy to pinpoint who you were
• All your previous life friends only share the bare minimum for the others then go all out on sharing any and all kind of art related to you removing any kind of doubt that it is indeed you

4chan dug through this illustrators previous posts and discovered an indie vTuber who graduated 3 weeks ago that Kaztchen was tangentially involved with. May I present: Seru Kisen, Selkie vTuber.

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Edit: if this is her, pretty ironic -
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Do smaller companies have this unwritten rule not to overlap announcements with Hololive's? Why should they care what Hololive does - it doesn't affect them.

I've seen multiple smaller Vtubers now that had to reschedule their announcements to earlier because of the HoloEN fiasco.

I would assume the thought is, "Why even bother trying to compete/stream at that time since we know a majority of the vTuber watchers will be turning in for Hololive".

I gotta say, I really like Ollie's new costume over her old one. This one looks much better imo. She looks like some sort of Muslim folklore version of a zombie/revenant/reanimated corpse or something.

The fan art for her new outfit has been AMAZING.

https://twitter.com/QUASARCAKE/status/1428692329490051079