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I know you're using this as a metaphor, but I've actually had a conversation with someone who believes that once self-driving cars become "reasonably affordable for the average person" then it will be unethical to buy or own a "dumb" car because you could get into accidents with the people in self-driving cars.
"The self-driving cars can't get into accidents, so the danger comes from people."

I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of these technologists that are terrified of driving are similarly terrified of Covid. These are the kind of people who want everything bubble-wrapped so they aren't getting hurt by anything, and are 100% fine with being perpetually online shut-ins.
 
Update from my flyover red state. Keep in mind no current mask mandate or any other restrictions.

It feels like we're at peak terror from the delta variant, and it didn't really stir up much. Last month I would maybe see 1 or 2 masks out all day, and usually on feeble old people. Now it's back up to 10% tops. But what is weird is a lot of people are just fucking over it, and the 10% that are masked up are being weird. Very cautious, avoiding people, eyes darting around, imagine Chantal eating alone in her car, that level of weirdness. It's like if you are susceptible to being panicked then they have turned it up to 110%, but if you aren't it's pushing you in the other direction? I dunno something is just off, but I can't quite put it into words, anyone else feel like that?

They better have something bigger up their sleeve, because it feels like what meager panic they've drummed up isn't going to last another week. But I can only speak for my mid-sized city in the middle of flyover country.
 
I've had several conversations with prolockdown/provax people and when I bring up the obesity thing they always scoff and throw out "But 40 - 50% of the US is obese! Are you really ok with all those people dying?!" And the answer is yes. Unironically yes. If COVID exclusively killed fat people, I would throw a celebration. Imagine what the US could look like without the ball and chain of obesity related issues. It extends far beyond COVID and has been dragging us down for decades now.

People talk constant shit about drug addicts but for some reason we are fine with 50% of our population being addicted to food. I can't take anyone seriously about health if they're so fat they can't even walk through the grocery store, and that tends to be who is telling me I need a vaccine.
Its actually really telling how not that serious COVID is by the fact the US is so full of fatties yet even this supposed plague is still unable to actually kill more than 0.3% of those it infects.

Imagine how not lethal COVID would be if we didn't have any deathfats around.
I know you're using this as a metaphor, but I've actually had a conversation with someone who believes that once self-driving cars become "reasonably affordable for the average person" then it will be unethical to buy or own a "dumb" car because you could get into accidents with the people in self-driving cars.
"The self-driving cars can't get into accidents, so the danger comes from people."
I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of these technologists that are terrified of driving are similarly terrified of Covid. These are the kind of people who want everything bubble-wrapped so they aren't getting hurt by anything, and are 100% fine with being perpetually online shut-ins.
The Science Priests communicated with the Tech Spirits and were able to learn the secret art of building a magic science McGuffin that protects us from danger!
Anyways, why do you gullible superstitious backwards believers refuse to follow along with the rest of us?
 
Update from my flyover red state. Keep in mind no current mask mandate or any other restrictions.

It feels like we're at peak terror from the delta variant, and it didn't really stir up much. Last month I would maybe see 1 or 2 masks out all day, and usually on feeble old people. Now it's back up to 10% tops. But what is weird is a lot of people are just fucking over it, and the 10% that are masked up are being weird. Very cautious, avoiding people, eyes darting around, imagine Chantal eating alone in her car, that level of weirdness. It's like if you are susceptible to being panicked then they have turned it up to 110%, but if you aren't it's pushing you in the other direction? I dunno something is just off, but I can't quite put it into words, anyone else feel like that?

They better have something bigger up their sleeve, because it feels like what meager panic they've drummed up isn't going to last another week. But I can only speak for my mid-sized city in the middle of flyover country.
Contrasting with a toilet cleaner blue metropolis, the people are scared but it's obviously performative. They're not scared unless they remember they're supposed to be scared. 80%+ are currently wearing diapers on their faces because the Fuhrer demanded it. But these people would also drop trou and shit on the spot if an agent of the state told them it was for The Common Good. They do as they're told, but even I can see the covid panic fatigue. They don't remember to put six feet between them unless a comparatively rare superKaren gets testy. It's not at the forefront of what tiny brains they have anymore.
 
Been seeing alot of this lately. I feel like a new variant maybe floating around



its just amazing how every week its a new thing, like a shitty tv show. a month ago they made sure to tell us every fucker that got it was not vaxxed. suddenly its frontpage news everywhere, yes the fully vaxxed are not only getting it but are suffering too.
 
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Can someone smarter explain this to me? It seems to be 2 vaxes, one called Comiranty and the "old" one called pfizer biontech covid 19 vaccine.

Comiranty is now approved but they will still give you the old one that is still under EUA?
They say they are the same however, i think, in the eyes of law they arent (since one did get approved, and one didn't).

My understanding is they gave the licence to Pfizer for publicity, but they still wont give them full approval. So the Comiranty here is only to shut up evil anti vaxxers whereas they eill still happily use the EUA ona (and therefore avoid liability)?

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I've had several conversations with prolockdown/provax people and when I bring up the obesity thing they always scoff and throw out "But 40 - 50% of the US is obese! Are you really ok with all those people dying?!" And the answer is yes. Unironically yes. If COVID exclusively killed fat people, I would throw a celebration. Imagine what the US could look like without the ball and chain of obesity related issues. It extends far beyond COVID and has been dragging us down for decades now.

People talk constant shit about drug addicts but for some reason we are fine with 50% of our population being addicted to food. I can't take anyone seriously about health if they're so fat they can't even walk through the grocery store, and that tends to be who is telling me I need a vaccine.
People "take up room" way fucking more in their precious ICUs and hospitals for obesity-related medical issues than coof could ever hope for, but for some reason that's not "selfish" like it is to end up in the hospital for coof if you're a filthy unvaxxed.
Makes no fucking sense.
 
Contrasting with a toilet cleaner blue metropolis, the people are scared but it's obviously performative. They're not scared unless they remember they're supposed to be scared. 80%+ are currently wearing diapers on their faces because the Fuhrer demanded it. But these people would also drop trou and shit on the spot if an agent of the state told them it was for The Common Good. They do as they're told, but even I can see the covid panic fatigue. They don't remember to put six feet between them unless a comparatively rare superKaren gets testy. It's not at the forefront of what tiny brains they have anymore.
yeah i was walking into stores maskless here in the boston area this whole time and usually never got told to put one on
 
Been seeing alot of this lately. I feel like a new variant maybe floating around



I said before they will try to drum up another "dangerous" variant to cover up for ade kicking in as much as possible as long as possible. This is either ade kicking in or microclots complications added in the mix what would be basically a bad flu episode .

Expect more headlines like this. It went from the vaccine protects 80 plus percent from covid but 100 per cent from complications and death to vaccine protects you from going to hospital and death to vaccine doesn't do shit after few months need boosters .

Soon they have to admit that was bad idea once the people getting the boosters dropping like flies left and right or those first vaccinated depends who comes first.

Just to say to the rest of users here buckle up no matter what and no matter how hard it is refuse the vaccine . Next year it will be all over and there will be massive labour shortage as a result of this fuckery . Just sit tight and don't comply.
 
I said before they will try to drum up another "dangerous" variant to cover up for ade kicking in as much as possible as long as possible. This is either ade kicking in or microclots complications added in the mix what would be basically a bad flu episode .

Expect more headlines like this. It went from the vaccine protects 80 plus percent from covid but 100 per cent from complications and death to vaccine protects you from going to hospital and death to vaccine doesn't do shit after few months need boosters .

Soon they have to admit that was bad idea once the people getting the boosters dropping like flies left and right or those first vaccinated depends who comes first.
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Coincidental how much ADE related research was taken off wiki. Dont you fucking love science?!
 
People "take up room" way fucking more in their precious ICUs and hospitals for obesity-related medical issues than coof could ever hope for, but for some reason that's not "selfish" like it is to end up in the hospital for coof if you're a filthy unvaxxed.
Makes no fucking sense.
They also jack up your health insurance rates too or if you're in the UK/Canada/wherever your taxes that pay for the healthcare system. COVID-1984 totalitarianism for the sake of health makes zero sense when if you wanted a public health dictatorship you'd bring the hammer down on the fat fucks. Like Japan has a system where local governments (might be prefectures, might be the level below) are penalized by the government for having a certain percentage of people over a certain BMI, and the governments penalized make a huge effort in their schools and advertising to reduce this. Imagine a system like that, but instead of government penalties it means anyone in unhealthy areas has every single fast food restaurant closed down. No more fried chicken and Big Macs for you!
 
So I mentioned this months ago, but my dad was part of the Pfizer vaccine trials. He got the placebo, caught the coof a couple months later, and then when they offered to give him the real shit, he went immediately, not even bothering to think about how retarded that was when he already had natural immunity. Anyway, he went back today because paperwork, and he found out that they're now preparing for booster shot trials. Apparently there are four groups: getting reinjected with the original, the Alpha variant, the Delta variant, or the Alpha and Delta variants combined. If I understood him correctly, you can choose which group you want to be part of, and he said he wanted to be in the Alpha/Delta group. I might have misheard and he just said he was hoping to be part of that group, but still, he's being retarded and I can't convince him otherwise. Never mind that his coof case was pretty mild and he got over it in a few days, never mind that he has no complications that would make it worse for him, nope, he wants more!

Seriously, everything about how these trials have been run is absolutely retarded to me. Not only are they a rush job, they're doing their best to get rid of their control group by injecting all the placebo candidates with the actual vaccine, and now they're charging ahead with seeing what happens if you keep pumping people with more. All for a virus that barely kills anybody and was well on its way to fading into the background before people started taking leaky vaccines.

But yeah, good luck getting a true believer to think about this rationally. It's practically impossible once someone has accepted the idea that these shots are the end-all-be-all for getting over the coof. It's worse when you try to argue that natural immunity is just as good as getting jabbed, if not better. It always ends up going back to appeals to emotion and those poor dead grandmas.

Those who are more medically knowledgeable than me, let me ask a question. The current narrative that people are just accepting is that coof boosters are a perfectly normal idea, generally bringing up how you get flu shots every year and equating the two. I know that both the coof and the flu have multiple variants out there, and the flu shot is just a best guess as to which variants are going to be most prevalent, which is why the flu is generally more severe in years when they guess wrong. What's the difference between how coronaviruses and influenza mutate? My general understanding is that cold viruses like coronaviruses and rhinoviruses mutate much more quickly, which is why nobody's ever really bothered trying to vaccinate against them. I mean, we've already seen that with how many coof variants are out there, with more popping up all the time. It seems a fool's errand to stay ahead of the curve.
Update from my flyover red state. Keep in mind no current mask mandate or any other restrictions.

It feels like we're at peak terror from the delta variant, and it didn't really stir up much. Last month I would maybe see 1 or 2 masks out all day, and usually on feeble old people. Now it's back up to 10% tops. But what is weird is a lot of people are just fucking over it, and the 10% that are masked up are being weird. Very cautious, avoiding people, eyes darting around, imagine Chantal eating alone in her car, that level of weirdness. It's like if you are susceptible to being panicked then they have turned it up to 110%, but if you aren't it's pushing you in the other direction? I dunno something is just off, but I can't quite put it into words, anyone else feel like that?

They better have something bigger up their sleeve, because it feels like what meager panic they've drummed up isn't going to last another week. But I can only speak for my mid-sized city in the middle of flyover country.
In my own red state, I've noticed more people masking up, but not very many still. Most people seem to be done with the idea, and I've yet to see anybody actually get mad about people who don't bother. Also have more people masking up at church, but the council voted this month not to force masks on people again, instead leaving it up to people's judgment. I'd say roughly half of the congregation is wearing masks again, the other half not. Nothing else has changed or been canceled either, so I find myself laughing inwardly when we have fellowship after church and everybody removes their masks for the rest of the day. If you're comfortable not having a mask on then, why weren't you fine during the service? It's the same group of people in the same area (smaller, actually), so why do you bother putting one on to begin with?

Still glad I don't live in a blue state, and glad I canceled my Dragon Con plans before I'd even bought my badge. Now they're requiring proof of vaccination or a negative test to attend, which is probably gonna end up turning at least some people away at the door who didn't realize things had changed. Sounds horribly unfun.
 
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Dogs and Cats do Carry COOF

There are 30 something animal resevoirs and the variants that will be created in the coming months are going to interesting and the symptom profile of the virus is going to get wild. You can only imagine what a Coof variant spending a year in a cat colony or rat infested barn is gonna do to a human body
I'm not sure the actual risk is any higher than a dangerous influenza strain, or for that matter a truly dangerous coronavirus (1889 "flu" pandemic, SARS). There are a fuckton of betacoronaviruses in birds and animals humans have lived in contact with for millennia, yet there are very few coronaviruses that spread between humans and the only ones remotely dangerous are COVID-19 (which is hopefully evolving into a regular common cold like the 1889 "flu" pandemic with Delta as an intermediate step), SARS, and MERS. People have been hanging out in bat caves since before modern humans evolved and in the Middle Ages and into the early 20th century we mined all sorts of shit including literal shit in those caves, yet barely any coronaviruses in humans. There were no coronavirus epidemics (outside of common colds) between 1889 and the SARS outbreak.

Also consider that dogs are a reservoir of human influenza yet you don't ever hear of the "dog flu". While I'm not sure of the exact mechanism, zoonotic diseases aren't all equally able to spread to humans and some animals are shit disease reservoirs. Like most of the major diseases in human history like measles, smallpox, tuberculosis, etc. came from animals, but most of those diseases came from pigs with most of the rest coming from cattle (measles is just human rinderpest, a cattle disease which is the only disease other than smallpox we've eliminated) and horses. That's why there were no major diseases from the Americas because Indians had barely any domestic animals, like they had tuberculosis (found in Peruvian mummies that are over a thousand years old) because some tribes butchered seals (a tuberculosis-carrying animal) and IIRC their other major disease syphilis evolved alongside humans in Africa but they somehow avoided bird flu or all sorts of coronaviruses.

So while adding another coronavirus, especially an artificially made one, to the pool of potential future pandemics is worrying, the risk isn't really much greater than it already is. You're far more likely to die of Chinese swine flu bred at a wet market than you are a COVID-19 strain bred in some cat lady's basement.
 
To be fair, wouldn't the total number spike because of the millions more in total vaccinations this year?

Honest Hate and all that, I would rather argue with percentage or per capita stats than something that looks like I'm manipulating numbers for hype (ie what the Covidians do).

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From the CDC, vaccination schedule between birth to six years of age.

That's an awful lot of vaccines for an awful lot of children. There's also the seven years-adult schedule and not to mention any vaccines you'd take visiting a foreign country.

All of these vaccines, for such a large population, and still for the vast majority of people this all goes without a hitch. Yet you find that VAERS only spikes after the corona vaccines were released. I just cannot see how that wouldn't ring major alarm bells that something is very, very wrong here.
 
Late as fuck - apologies - haven't caught up with thread, but saw this and it struck a chord:
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I know I would. I just wouldn't make myself a righteous virtue signaller and show off with my sick-ass Heil Hitlers. Just enough "enthusiasm" not to be ratted out and just enough "zeal" to blend in with the rest.

Imagine an SS member involved in Aktion T4 making a picture of all those patients they're going to euthanize with a caption "Sie werden den Bouhler-Autschi bekommen!"
 
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From the CDC, vaccination schedule between birth to six years of age.

That's an awful lot of vaccines for an awful lot of children. There's also the seven years-adult schedule and not to mention any vaccines you'd take visiting a foreign country.

All of these vaccines, for such a large population, and still for the vast majority of people this all goes without a hitch. Yet you find that VAERS only spikes after the corona vaccines were released. I just cannot see how that wouldn't ring major alarm bells that something is very, very wrong here.
God why do you lot vaccinate for everything? Hep A and Hep B aren't given here to kids unless there's a good reason as an adult (working in a risky field, being a gay man) and shingles isn't given at all. Shingles sucks nuts, but meds for neurological pain and antivirals work fine on it, trick is to not get run down.



It's really obvious from that, that the USA is the big pharma companies bitch boy. From adverts on TV for drugs to giving people needless vaccines like the flu, every year from 6 months? Jesus christ.


Edit: Stuff like polio? Meningitis? For sure. Totally needed. But holy crap that's far, far, far too much. But why no TB?
 
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