TGWTG The Spoony One / Spoony / Noah Antwiler and Rachel Baker / @RaeAngel07 - The touching romance between a washed-up videogame reviewer throwing a decade-long pity party and his delusional Canuck stalker. #weaknotsick #donttellmehowtosulk

[Wormy]

There's always going to be a variety of "that guy" at the local game store or club. You can have a group of players who get along just fine, and try to add a new player and find out they're the equivalent of spoony, or add a new player who is normal and find out someone who has been at your table is a complete social idiot(throwing a fit about having a "girl" at the table, you used to just be able to pull that person aside and tell them to stop being a faggot. Jumping down someone's throat for not having 600 pages of rules memorized, etc.). Generally in my experience all of these people either get corrected by the groups they're a part of, or eventually end up having to find a new group, then a new group, and so on which can of course lead to an entire group at a game store being made up of "that guy". Even beyond that though, nerds can certainly form cliques like any other social groups.

It's a basic skill that, sadly, many groups lack; the ability to SENSIBLY gatekeep and make sure "That Guy" doesn't last after showing their ass that first time. The group I'm a part of had to develop the ability to do so, and getting burned more than once has honed us into That Guy seeking missiles.

Also, if you're wanting to play badasses right out of the box, D&D ain't your game. Look into Feng Shui if you're wanting that vibe.

Oh, wow, I wasn't aware that there is a politian on kiwifarms.

Even the worst politician has paypigs and fans. I have neither.

 

[p1138]

It's a basic skill that, sadly, many groups lack; the ability to SENSIBLY gatekeep and make sure "That Guy" doesn't last after showing their ass that first time. The group I'm a part of had to develop the ability to do so, and getting burned more than once has honed us into That Guy seeking missiles.

Also, if you're wanting to play badasses right out of the box, D&D ain't your game. Look into Feng Shui if you're wanting that vibe.

Yeah, my current group definitely had to do the same. Fortunately we've gotten to a point where we can actually accept new people without someone immediately being a spoony to them or sniff out their BS early and send them on their way. Feng Shui is certainly an option however it won't work for these CR nutjobs, because "it isn't D&D" and CR doesn't play whatever other system. They basically just want to emulate CR and nothing else.

 

[Spunt]

Oh, wow, I wasn't aware that there is a politian on kiwifarms.
But to be serious, I quess even jizz mopper has to be punctual at work and not spend all his day on twitter. That's number 1 thing Miles/his parents have to do - at least attempt to cure him from his twitter addiction. Problem is, it steems from deeper issues, but still - his family will probably try to help him, and that's why he is silent on twitter, and may be silent for some time again. Until he completely breaks again.

Much as I post on KF, how much of an asshole I generally am and how mean I am about Spoony in particular, he's not an evil person. He's more kinda pitiful, and fascinating to watch as you see the effect of failure on an egomaniac. He's not a pedo or a tranny cult groomer or a career mooch. I genuinely hope he sorts himself out, even if that deprives us of entertainment. But I have to admit that the real reason I hope his family stage an intervention is to imagine the manbaby tantrum he would throw. Oh to be a fly on the wall when he can't run away from criticism and has to listen to some home truths - there's no block button on your own family calling you out. Maybe some day we'll get an account of it, I think that would be a fitting end to the Spoony story, with him knocked back to Stage 1 and forced to get a McJob, which is probably the best outcome for him now.

Something happened after nerd culture went mainstream. Those spaces just became hostile.

I remember when girls first became interested in Street Fighter tournaments. The salt from the community bordered on the absurd. You had neckbeards standing up in the audience like they're Salman Rushdie and disrupting events.

Nerd culture always had shitty elements, and they stemmed from it being an "outsider" hobby - a lot of those people were "outsiders" for a damn good reason, read the Geek Social Fallacies thing (which pre-dates nerd culture getting big by about 15 years) to understand that in more detail. Even 20 years ago, I was lucky to have a good DnD group, but the gaming club I went to had some asshole 40k players who would throw tantrums and someone got their nose broken over a game of Blood Bowl (I guess they were getting into the spirit of the sport). The problems are different now that it's more mainstream, instead of unwashed basement dwellers it's troons and Soy Golems holding up their little "x" cards when someone doesn't affirm their character's gender or whateverthefuck. As ever it's about finding the right group of people and gatekeeping it to people who share your values, both in regards to how whatever game you play ought to be run and also just general values as people, and not to be afraid to quit groups or throw people out if there's conflict. No gaming is better than bad gaming.

Yeah, my current group definitely had to do the same. Fortunately we've gotten to a point where we can actually accept new people without someone immediately being a spoony to them or sniff out their BS early and send them on their way. Feng Shui is certainly an option however it won't work for these CR nutjobs, because "it isn't D&D" and CR doesn't play whatever other system. They basically just want to emulate CR and nothing else.

Feng Shui is amazing overpowered ridiculous fun, but a lot of Serious Roleplayers don't like it because it isn't grimdark enough (though a good GM could easily run a grimdark FS game) or because they want the standard high fantasy setting which, again, FS can do but it requires creativity on behalf of the GM and understanding players and you tend to get neither amongst Mercer fanboys/girls.

 

[Foltest]

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His niche is reviewing box office bombs and Woody Allen movies. It's suprising how chill his writing is; he has similar "angry reviewer" and "I want to kill myself" shtick as Spoony, but gives the impression he's actually having fun doing this and that he's just joking. I read that blog a lot few years ago when I had a lot of downtime at work. I recommend it - dude has interesting things to write about.

Re: Jedi Spoony
IMO the gamemaster felt bad and tried to make Spoony feel better by claiming it wasn't his fault but of course this cockgoblin has to take a fucking Star Wars tRPG session seriously like he's the Marlon Brando of role-playing games or something. Also the I hate group infighting but my best moments were when I PKd somebody and danced around his corpse.

Spoony still quiet on Twitter. Either dad lumberjacked his Internet or he's in a loony bin/in-patient therapy where they monitor his Internet usage and will throw his ass out if he touches Twitter?

I remember that I read Miles reviews of box office bombs, as that was something that intruge me, espcily films that was really good, but couldn't find an audience.

 

[Jan Ciągwa]

Possible powerlevel: I was reading the magazine at the time. My take is that the reviews weren't bad, but he spent very little time talking about them from a gaming perspective, which is kind of important in a gaming magazine.

I've read neither KoTDT nor the Dragon magazine so I'm judging without context, but honestly after reading 4 of those Gamer Rants they give me the impression that the person who wrote them is the kind of pathetic fag who's always complaining about the pettiest stuff. Really, the Matrix sequels don't make sense? Hawk the Slayer had a shoestring budget and bad acting? Star Wars sequels suck? Is this supposed to be funny? Could you imagine playing with this guy at the table and having to put up with his bitching and moaning and arguing with everyone about everything and slowing down the game to a crawl? I'm sure the readers had the "pleasure" of knowing someone like that and that's why the reception was so negative.

My breaking point was Spoony going on a page-long tangent about Boba Fett, based on a Darth Vader quote which I'm sure was there just to pad out the script and didn't really imply what Spoony was ranting about. The fuck.

 

[MidUSA]

I'm struggling to think of anything more demeaning than being a jizz janitor.

He might be a journalist

 

[Captain Syrup]

I remember that I read Miles reviews of box office bombs

Most of his information comes from Fiasco by James Parish. A fun little book, which you can find pretty easily.

Even beyond that though, nerds can certainly form cliques like any other social groups.

Oh god, Critical Role. Even Matt Mercer has publicly apologized for what has basically been dubbed "the matt mercer effect".

It technically should be called the PewDiePie effect. I find them indistinguishable from cult behavior, and anyone who doesn't align with them must be put to death.

 

[p1138]

Most of his information comes from Fiasco by James Parish. A fun little book, which you can find pretty easily.

It technically should be called the PewDiePie effect. What many young people fail to realize is that Youtubers are paid actors; it is a show. (It's no secret that Matt is a voice actor.) Say what you will about these communities, but I find them indistinguishable from cult behavior, and anyone who doesn't align with them must be put to death.

Can't say I'm familiar with the pewdiepie effect, only ever seen a couple minutes of him total. Would it be a group of idiots who assume all gamers need to act like pewdiepie or something? Edit: Nevermind, I looked it up. Yeah I guess that's a thing, but isn't quite what the matt mercer effect is. At least based off of what I read, it's a trend for someone like pewdiepie to make something popular or whatever. The matt mercer effect is more along the lines of expectations of players and DMs that everyone else at the table is suddenly a professional voice actor as well, can do a separate voice for every character, is supposed to always have the exact same energy as the people on CR, that all D&D adventurers should be played like how CR plays, etc.

 

[Well Intentioned]

I came across his old blogspot blogs, if anyone wants more of Noah's fiction writing (plus an old incarnation of Counter Monkey, I think?):

Blogger: User Profile: The Spoony One

Blogger is a free blog publishing tool from Google for easily sharing your thoughts with the world. Blogger makes it simple to post text, photos and video onto your personal or team blog.

www.blogger.com

Kinda surprised there hasn't been a single peep from him this weekend given that there was some pretty big pro wrestling events that happened. Someone must've taken his electronic toys away.

 

[p1138]

I came across his old blogspot blogs, if anyone wants more of Noah's fiction writing (plus an old incarnation of Counter Monkey, I think?):

Blogger: User Profile: The Spoony One

Blogger is a free blog publishing tool from Google for easily sharing your thoughts with the world. Blogger makes it simple to post text, photos and video onto your personal or team blog.

www.blogger.com

Kinda surprised there hasn't been a single peep from him this weekend given that there was some pretty big pro wrestling events that happened. Someone must've taken his electronic toys away.

His parents or his brother did. He hasn't made a peep since he finally got the boot from his house a month ago and was dragged back to Arizona.

 

[Well Intentioned]

His parents or his brother did. He hasn't made a peep since he finally got the boot from his house a month ago and was dragged back to Arizona.

Yeah, just saying that, short of something like Trump being shot at a rally (or whatever), I can't think of much else that would "necessitate" a response from Noah on Twitter. If he kept mum over CM Punk (wrestler who I imagine Noah would gravitate towards) returning, then something is up and it's not just him being in a whiny/mopey phase.

 

[Captain Syrup]

At least based off of what I read, it's a trend for someone like pewdiepie to make something popular or whatever. The matt mercer effect is more along the lines of expectations of players and DMs that everyone else at the table is suddenly a professional voice actor as well

"Subscribe to PewDiePie" with wizard hats.

If he kept mum over CM Punk returning

Just what we need, another prehistoric veteran who can barely move.

 

[p1138]

You see, I read something different. Allegedly, you have these fucking memers showing up to groups and insisting on rolling the same "characters" from CR.

"Subscribe to PewDiePie" with wizard hats.

Nah, they're not so bad they're bringing along xerox'd CR characters. People coming up with "their own" shitty snowflake drow Dizzt clone that's a different matter and came up long before CR was a thing. Fortunately it's pretty rare, and any DM with any sense will hand it right back and tell a player to come up with an actual character of their own. I'm sure there are a handful of completely uncreative dipshits that just try to show up with CR characters, but that seems fairly uncommon. Back to the Matt Mercer effect, this is his response to someone asking how to "beat" it:

Seeing stuff like this kinda breaks my heart. Regardless, the fact of the matter is our style of play is just that...our style of play. Every table is different, and should be! If they just want to “copy” what we do, that’s not very creative nor what makes the game magic at the table.

I DO believe that it’s important for any gaming group to discuss expectations early into a campaign so everyone can get on the same page and avoid dissonance. However, it’s EVERYONE’S responsibility at the table to provide and add to the experience for everyone to enjoy themselves and the story, not just the DM. As I saw some comments below mention, you want a particular style of game? That level of commitments rests on YOUR shoulders. Consolidate your style and wishes with those of the other players and DM, and somewhere in that unique mix you will find your table’s special style of storytelling.

Need I also remind your players that we are a table of professional actors, and I have been DMing for well over 20 years. We have spent our lives training in particular skills that allow us to get as immersed in the characters as we enjoy doing. Anyone can jump in as deeply, should they wish to, but EXPECTING that immediate level of comfort and interest is unfair and absurd. Do they want a deep, convoluted emotional journey like Scanlan? They better be able to bring it like Sam did. No? Then sit down and just have fun finding your own path.

PLUS, our style isn’t for everyone! Hell, just scan the comments below to see how many folks don’t like us, haha. I’ve played with many different players, ran games of many different styles and focuses, and I can tell you... there is so much fun variety to how a TTRPG can be played, they’re limiting their chances to enjoy it by trying to “play it just like us”.

Anyway, I say the best course is have a very frank conversation with them about these things. Clearly say that your game will feel like YOUR game (meaning you and the players together), and it’s THEIR responsibility to bring to the table what facet they want to see in it. Show them this post, if it helps. In fact, show them this message:

“Guys. Relax. Your DM is kicking ass, and is doing this for YOUR enjoyment and journey. Appreciate that, listen, build with them, and make this something UNIQUE. Abandon expectations and just have fun together as friends.”

Anyway, so sorry. Things like this are never my intent. It’s a weird, wild west these days. Your gonna be great, friend. <3

Fortunately I've never seen a "spoony effect" where idiots insist that the only real way to play D&D is 3d6 in order no matter what, characters have to stick to eachother like glue to avoid splitting the party, and so on.

 

[Arthur Morgan]

His parents or his brother did. He hasn't made a peep since he finally got the boot from his house a month ago and was dragged back to Arizona.

It makes me wonder what he's doing instead. I doubt he's gotten a job or is hanging out with people. He might just be sitting in his room all day doing nothing.

 

[Wormy]

Yeah, my current group definitely had to do the same. Fortunately we've gotten to a point where we can actually accept new people without someone immediately being a spoony to them or sniff out their BS early and send them on their way. Feng Shui is certainly an option however it won't work for these CR nutjobs, because "it isn't D&D" and CR doesn't play whatever other system. They basically just want to emulate CR and nothing else.

Hopeless cases then. Cut em loose, let em be someone else's problem.

Feng Shui is amazing overpowered ridiculous fun, but a lot of Serious Roleplayers don't like it because it isn't grimdark enough (though a good GM could easily run a grimdark FS game) or because they want the standard high fantasy setting which, again, FS can do but it requires creativity on behalf of the GM and understanding players and you tend to get neither amongst Mercer fanboys/girls.

Grimdark Feng Shui? Oh yea, it can be done, and I have done it (undead overrunning 1865 China), especially if it's a non Secret War campaign and kept to a specific genre.

I can't honestly see FS doing High Fantasy outside of Wuxia/Magic Kung Fu, and you know Mercer fanboys/girls won't touch that. Still, I don't lay it at Matt's door, he recognizes the problem and publicly pleads for players to get some fucking perspective.

 

[Well Intentioned]

In fairness, pretty much everyone is mum on Punk returning.

Just what we need, another prehistoric veteran who can barely move.

I don't think people have been keeping quiet about it.

For the subset of wrestling fan that he is and given that it was treated as Big News, I figured he'd be all over it and would be enough to pierce his sadbrains fog, if that was what was going on with him.

 

[p1138]

I don't think people have been keeping quiet about it.

For the subset of wrestling fan that he is and given that it was treated as Big News, I figured he'd be all over it and would be enough to pierce his sadbrains fog, if that was what was going on with him.

The only thing that has stopped him from tweeting in the past was when he was banned for a couple weeks. Considering now he's under someone else's roof, I'd be surprised if some basic conditions weren't set for his 40 year old ass. Like spending x amount of time a day looking for a job, doing chores, etc. and feeding his dog or posting to twitter were choices given. Plus they know what his twitter is, so even if they took his phone it's not like he could post from elsewhere and they wouldn't see it.

 

[mlanguishi]

Noah burned all his bridges, except maybe family. Even Marzgurl on hearing about he lost his house said 'I had not heard that', and moved on without a 2nd thought,

The Warthog seems be moved on for now. I think Noah's most valuable asset is that he can come back on anytime conceivably and cause a ruckuss.

I think the odds are low at over a month that it's in his control though.

 

[100% VIRGIN M00TY]

If Spoony is in special care I hope he is locked in a padded room with the FF8 card theme playing over the speakers constantly.

Critical Role does annoy me more as time goes on as I like OSR and what pen and paper RPGs are capable of. CR is just some actors not giving a toss about the rules playing characters that are not allowed to die because the fans will get upset. They don't need Dungeons and Dragons, they should just call the show "Who's sword is it anyway?" and put a disclaimer at the front of each episode that it's just acting (and it's probably scripted).

Has there ever been a time when a roll was critical on that show?

 

[Jan Ciągwa]

If Spoony is in special care I hope he is locked in a padded room with the FF8 card theme playing over the speakers constantly.