US Joe Biden News Megathread - The Other Biden Derangement Syndrome Thread (with a side order of Fauci Derangement Syndrome)

Let's pretend for one moment that he does die before the election, just for the funsies. What happens then? Will the nomination revert to option number 2, aka Bernie Sanders? Or will his running mate automatically replace him just the way Vice-President is supposted to step in after the Big Man in the White House chokes on a piece of matzo? Does he even have a running mate yet?

 

[6MillionCoofs]

NOOOOOOOO WE VOTED THE GOOD GUY IN HE IS TOTALLY HARRY POTTER AND TRUMP IS VOLDEMORT!!!! THIS IS ALL JUST THE EVIL REPUBLICANS MANIPULATING EVERYONE WERE THE GOOD GUYS WHICH MEANS EVERYONE ELSE IS BAD AND ITS THEIR FAULT

This is literally the mentality a lot of the liberals I know have. Giving a generation of Harry Potter and Star Wars kids voting rights was a mistake

I do like how they have turned Harry Potter into something far less nuanced than it actually was.

 

[Cuckoman]

I'm glad someone else is explaining this to people. I've gotten downright tired of hearing "It's for the opium!" And then I have to hand hold them through the logic of that before finally pointing out that there's computer component material in them thar hills.

Like, dude, if China wants opium they will set up a concentration camp (in China) and grow some, trust me.

I too get so tired when retarded NPCs with no understanding of history just repeats this "it is the opium" shit.

We already know how the talebans think about opium.
Last time they were in power it took ~6 months and 99% of all opium farming had switched to other crops,
crops that would not have taleban fighters show up with ak47 and talk about how drugs are against islam and then kill the farmer and his family in front of the rest of the village.

That is what they think about opium. Fucking retards that talk "it is the opium" fucking retards all of them.

 

[Roybertitos]

Where is the 70,000 figure coming from? Last few weeks it was 20,000 that needed flown out, plus 10k Americans, somehow Canada and UK were saying we'll take the 20,000...now the US alone has airlifted 2x as many?

Anyone pointing this out yet? Or is this just another shift in the fucking narrative?

Wishful thinking I guess...

I'm really not sure, last I hear there were 100k Americans there total in other regions but I have a feeling I'm misremembering. I think they're also including afghan refugees into the count, cause otherwise I have no clue where they found these people if Kabul's airport is the only place they can stage flights. There must be something to this number tho, I doubt they can just straight up lie so boldly unless they're certain no one is gonna double check.

 

[The Last Boyscout]

I'm really not sure, last I hear there were 100k Americans there total in other regions but I have a feeling I'm misremembering. I think they're also including afghan refugees into the count, cause otherwise I have no clue where they found these people if Kabul's airport is the only place they can stage flights. There must be something to this number tho, I doubt they can just straight up lie so boldly unless they're certain no one is gonna double check.

I think the figure is just: "this is the number of people that made it to the airport, so let's just say they were 'evacuated' but fail to mention 'from the city to the airport' as opposed to 'from the airport out of the country." of that 70k number about half have actually flown out on a plane in over a week now...and the deadline is in less than a week.

 

[Roybertitos]

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I think the figure is just: "this is the number of people that made it to the airport, so let's just say they were 'evacuated' but fail to mention 'from the city to the airport' as opposed to 'from the airport out of the country." of that 70k number about half have actually flown out on a plane in over a week now...and the deadline is in less than a week.

So in this scenario, do the Americans outside Kabul who were told to shelter in place just get fucked then? There's no fucking way they can pull everyone out before the end of the month, so I wonder how they're gonna spin that? This'll prolly take months to sort out, and if America fucks up even once, the Taliban have a bunch of American hostages to demand what they want.

 

[Gehenna]

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So in this scenario, do the Americans outside Kabul who were told to shelter in place just get fucked then? There's no fucking way they can pull everyone out before the end of the month, so I wonder how they're gonna spin that? This'll prolly take months to sort out, and if America fucks up even once, the Taliban have a bunch of American hostages to demand what they want.

Yes, and then the admin well and truly tanks because that will leak, and it will be -very- interesting to the public.

 

[Snekposter]

With how the press is scared and confused, there might just be a Beria-style report on all of his crimes just to get people to feel something for ratings

They should just hire Steve Buscemi to reprise his role as Kruschev and read off the list of Beria's sexual crimes. Close enough to reality.
"Biden is also accused of 347 counts of rape.... And acts of perversions with children as young as seven years of age."

 

[Gehenna]

So to insert a bit more politisperging.

Let us be clear on something, the media sucks. The media really sucks.
Let us be clear on a second thing, the general populace are very inattentive.

These two things together are the root of a lot of people I am seeing assuming that all Biden has to do is lie a bit and put a good face on it all and in a couple weeks time or even a couple years time everyone will forget.

So let us be clear on one last thing. That's not how this works.

To explain why let's revisit a prior topic I sperged on. https://kiwifarms.net/posts/9446255/

Within I described the three criteria needed to catch the center's attention, these were:
1: It needs to be Easily Digestible.
2: It has to come from sources they like/trust.
3: It has to have a clear connection to someone or something in power.

Now, what do I mean by catch the centers attention? Well, the center is largely made up of your inattentive general populace. The center-right and left alongside the moderates who aren't tuned in to politics beyond the surface level news feeds, word of mouth, and facebook memes. This is your "I just want to grill" crowd and they could not give less of a fuck about politics 9 times out of 10. The criteria above must have all elements met in order to make that 1 out of 10 occurrence be a thing. The problem is it's a surprisingly high bar to reach, and thus the general populace usually ignores most things and small soundbites quickly shape their opinion of it because they do not care to look even a millimeter deeper.

But what happens if the attention is gained? Well, now you deal with an entirely different beast. The center is inattentive, meaning it's easy to pull the wool over their eyes. The problem then is that very thing, an easy strength for a liar... but also a crippling flaw to them. Because when something does crop up, it inevitably blindsides the general populace. Those who were tuned in had already built up their expectations and grim acknowledgments, but the general populace gets every last bit of it fresh. This breeds a certain amount of... discontent. And just as they were slow to learn of the issue, they are also very slow to -forget- the issue now that they know of it. And because it blindsided them, they are angry about it, incredibly uncharitable, and now expecting to be lied to repeatedly about it.

So, does the Afghanistan stuff qualify?

Eminently yes.

Is it digestible? "Biden fucked up the withdrawal leaving U.S. Citizens and Afghanis who helped us stranded". This is immediately digestible, and what is worse every bad step from it is just as digestible. "Stranded people get killed by Taliban", "Biden's withdrawal claims big numbers, still stranded people", "Troops have left, with people still stranded". It's a conga line of digestibility.
Will there be sources they trust? Word of mouth and facebook memes, hell even the news covered it enough that the general populace picked it up. It will spread like wildfire even if every news outlet decided to sing Biden praises suddenly.
Does it have a clear connection? Fuck yah, his name comes up in the digestibility thing. What is worse, it implicates a ton of people outside the digestibility standard.



This won't be forgotten. Not due to some misplaced optimism, but because the situation meets every single criterion to be exactly the kind of thing the general populace sits up and takes notice of. This kind of situation is what cratered Carter, lead to even Reagen dipping below 50% for a couple of years, and is practically textbook.

 

[BeboRefugee]

Of the alleged figure of 60,000 evacuated, how many are American citizens? Of the total evacuated, what share is by the US and what share is being performed by the other militaries present (French, German, British)?

 

[Dona Morte]

So to insert a bit more politisperging.

Let us be clear on something, the media sucks. The media really sucks.
Let us be clear on a second thing, the general populace are very inattentive.

These two things together are the root of a lot of people I am seeing assuming that all Biden has to do is lie a bit and put a good face on it all and in a couple weeks time or even a couple years time everyone will forget.

So let us be clear on one last thing. That's not how this works.

To explain why let's revisit a prior topic I sperged on. https://kiwifarms.net/posts/9446255/

Within I described the three criteria needed to catch the center's attention, these were:
1: It needs to be Easily Digestible.
2: It has to come from sources they like/trust.
3: It has to have a clear connection to someone or something in power.

Now, what do I mean by catch the centers attention? Well, the center is largely made up of your inattentive general populace. The center-right and left alongside the moderates who aren't tuned in to politics beyond the surface level news feeds, word of mouth, and facebook memes. This is your "I just want to grill" crowd and they could not give less of a fuck about politics 9 times out of 10. The criteria above must have all elements met in order to make that 1 out of 10 occurrence be a thing. The problem is it's a surprisingly high bar to reach, and thus the general populace usually ignores most things and small soundbites quickly shape their opinion of it because they do not care to look even a millimeter deeper.

But what happens if the attention is gained? Well, now you deal with an entirely different beast. The center is inattentive, meaning it's easy to pull the wool over their eyes. The problem then is that very thing, an easy strength for a liar... but also a crippling flaw to them. Because when something does crop up, it inevitably blindsides the general populace. Those who were tuned in had already built up their expectations and grim acknowledgments, but the general populace gets every last bit of it fresh. This breeds a certain amount of... discontent. And just as they were slow to learn of the issue, they are also very slow to -forget- the issue now that they know of it. And because it blindsided them, they are angry about it, incredibly uncharitable, and now expecting to be lied to repeatedly about it.

So, does the Afghanistan stuff qualify?

Eminently yes.

Is it digestible? "Biden fucked up the withdrawal leaving U.S. Citizens and Afghanis who helped us stranded". This is immediately digestible, and what is worse every bad step from it is just as digestible. "Stranded people get killed by Taliban", "Biden's withdrawal claims big numbers, still stranded people", "Troops have left, with people still stranded". It's a conga line of digestibility.
Will there be sources they trust? Word of mouth and facebook memes, hell even the news covered it enough that the general populace picked it up. It will spread like wildfire even if every news outlet decided to sing Biden praises suddenly.
Does it have a clear connection? Fuck yah, his name comes up in the digestibility thing. What is worse, it implicates a ton of people outside the digestibility standard.



This won't be forgotten. Not due to some misplaced optimism, but because the situation meets every single criterion to be exactly the kind of thing the general populace sits up and takes notice of. This kind of situation is what cratered Carter, lead to even Reagen dipping below 50% for a couple of years, and is practically textbook.

So much this at digestible.
Hell I can be guilty of just reading the headlines as well. Also RIP critical thinking.

 

[SeniorFuckFace]

what share is by the US and what share is being performed by the other militaries present (French, German, British)?

I am pretty certain they are pooling all country evacuee numbers under the brand of "USA Pulling Out Of Afghanistan".

The do certainly seem high, especially being told by the military that there is no clear cut way to extract that amount of people,

 

[Gehenna]

So much this at digestible.
Hell I can be guilty of just reading the headlines as well. Also RIP critical thinking.

It's not a lack of ability to think, it's a lack of interest. Afterall, everyone here who does take an interest can probably feel the minutes of their lives being lost to stress.

 

[Dona Morte]

It's not a lack of ability to think, it's a lack of interest. Afterall, everyone here who does take an interest can probably feel the minutes of their lives being lost to stress.

Well we are not normies though.

 

[BeboRefugee]

I am pretty certain they are pooling all country evacuee numbers under the brand of "USA Pulling Out Of Afghanistan".

The do certainly seem high, especially being told by the military that there is no clear cut way to extract that amount of people,

The 60,000 figure sounded strange, even taking into account other countries. There's only 1 operable runway. I honestly doubt there are that many civilian Americans to shuttle out of the country. If you aren't there on military business, the only reason I can think for Americans to be in Afghanistan of all places is with charity missions, and how many of those are there? This isn't to discount the stunning incompetence on display either, but if tensions ramp up my gut says unarmed civilian American hostages will be few and far between, as everyone must have some link or another to the US military presence. So who is the evacuation in service of? The overwhelming majority of evacuees were always gonna be Afghans because their oligarchs, translators, and managerial class all relied upon the US to survive, and with America gone they either get out or die.

 

[Gehenna]

The 60,000 figure sounded strange, even taking into account other countries. There's only 1 operable runway. I honestly doubt there are that many civilian Americans to shuttle out of the country. If you aren't there on military business, the only reason I can think for Americans to be in Afghanistan of all places is with charity missions, and how many of those are there? This isn't to discount the stunning incompetence on display either, but if tensions ramp up my gut says unarmed civilian American hostages will be few and far between, as everyone must have some link or another to the US military presence. So who is the evacuation in service of? The overwhelming majority of evacuees were always gonna be Afghans because their oligarchs, translators, and managerial class all relied upon the US to survive, and with America gone they either get out or die.

There would be more American civvies than you think. In a long-term engagement, there is a fairly significant civilian expert contingent with our militaries. Contractors, medical staff, advisors, liaisons. Plus idiots like Lord Miles but Americans who want to check out the region.

 

[Salubrious]

One of the problems with this California recall is that the press and the people have successfuly turned it into a "Democrat vs. Republican" election when it really isn't. There was a point where Kevin Paffrath was polling ahead of Elder and not one person is paying attention to him.

It's kind of weird that they are so all-in on Newsom that they aren't even bothering (and in fact are discouraging) a backup plan.

Because as you said, it's not Newsom vs. Elder. It's "do you want Newsom out?" and then if true the guy with the most amount of votes wins. But I guess maybe they thought running a backup plan and getting behind that person might split the vote? Or maybe they just want to focus on smearing Elder because he's the new black white supremacist.

 

[derpherp2]

It's kind of weird that they are so all-in on Newsom that they aren't even bothering (and in fact are discouraging) a backup plan.

Because as you said, it's not Newsom vs. Elder. It's "do you want Newsom out?" and then if true the guy with the most amount of votes wins. But I guess maybe they thought running a backup plan and getting behind that person might split the vote? Or maybe they just want to focus on smearing Elder because he's the new black white supremacist.

These dumbasses thought that increasing tax, delaying the stimmies, and then blaming republicans for all of it was a good idea.

Yes.
Republicans.
In California.
At least they stopped calling everyone that disagrees with them the alt-right.
Yes.
This is them improving.

So to insert a bit more politisperging.

Let us be clear on something, the media sucks. The media really sucks.
Let us be clear on a second thing, the general populace are very inattentive.

These two things together are the root of a lot of people I am seeing assuming that all Biden has to do is lie a bit and put a good face on it all and in a couple weeks time or even a couple years time everyone will forget.

So let us be clear on one last thing. That's not how this works.

To explain why let's revisit a prior topic I sperged on. https://kiwifarms.net/posts/9446255/

Within I described the three criteria needed to catch the center's attention, these were:
1: It needs to be Easily Digestible.
2: It has to come from sources they like/trust.
3: It has to have a clear connection to someone or something in power.

Now, what do I mean by catch the centers attention? Well, the center is largely made up of your inattentive general populace. The center-right and left alongside the moderates who aren't tuned in to politics beyond the surface level news feeds, word of mouth, and facebook memes. This is your "I just want to grill" crowd and they could not give less of a fuck about politics 9 times out of 10. The criteria above must have all elements met in order to make that 1 out of 10 occurrence be a thing. The problem is it's a surprisingly high bar to reach, and thus the general populace usually ignores most things and small soundbites quickly shape their opinion of it because they do not care to look even a millimeter deeper.

But what happens if the attention is gained? Well, now you deal with an entirely different beast. The center is inattentive, meaning it's easy to pull the wool over their eyes. The problem then is that very thing, an easy strength for a liar... but also a crippling flaw to them. Because when something does crop up, it inevitably blindsides the general populace. Those who were tuned in had already built up their expectations and grim acknowledgments, but the general populace gets every last bit of it fresh. This breeds a certain amount of... discontent. And just as they were slow to learn of the issue, they are also very slow to -forget- the issue now that they know of it. And because it blindsided them, they are angry about it, incredibly uncharitable, and now expecting to be lied to repeatedly about it.

So, does the Afghanistan stuff qualify?

Eminently yes.

Is it digestible? "Biden fucked up the withdrawal leaving U.S. Citizens and Afghanis who helped us stranded". This is immediately digestible, and what is worse every bad step from it is just as digestible. "Stranded people get killed by Taliban", "Biden's withdrawal claims big numbers, still stranded people", "Troops have left, with people still stranded". It's a conga line of digestibility.
Will there be sources they trust? Word of mouth and facebook memes, hell even the news covered it enough that the general populace picked it up. It will spread like wildfire even if every news outlet decided to sing Biden praises suddenly.
Does it have a clear connection? Fuck yah, his name comes up in the digestibility thing. What is worse, it implicates a ton of people outside the digestibility standard.



This won't be forgotten. Not due to some misplaced optimism, but because the situation meets every single criterion to be exactly the kind of thing the general populace sits up and takes notice of. This kind of situation is what cratered Carter, lead to even Reagen dipping below 50% for a couple of years, and is practically textbook.

To make no mention, again, that these chucklefucks already did most of the legwork for us.

They made Joe Biden the lynchpin to their whole political bullshit - to the detriment of not having a proper VP backup.
They then turned Taliban into the "bad guy" for 20 years to justify their fucking around in a sand pit.

At this point, this is an apt metaphorical buttfucking in comparison to the actual buttfucking in afghanistan. Their very weapons are turned against them while they're boxed inside the very mess they created. Trying to use outdated shit to fight back against the more sophisticated shit they decided to leave behind.

Again, delicious, again horrifying. Again. Uncharted water.

 

[Mr Cuddles]

Thing is, globo is gonna happen whether we participate or not and if we don't we're fucked. My point remains that if you can't hold your job then you aren't valuable enough to hold it.

Ok I've seen this argument a lot and it is either based on ignorance or is two faced. The argument goes well if you were valuable enough to the company or society a refugee couldn't replace you anyway because refugees and immigrants are by their very nature "unskilled". However in most of their homelands these refugees/immigrants would be classed as skilled. There are 2 problems they face when trying to get employment over here. 1: A lot of white collar and professional jobs require a high standard of english, which for a non native speaker is quite an ask. And 2: most of their qualifications aren't recognized by the local professional body.

When the UK was a part of the EU, we would recognise lawyers with French, German and Italian law degrees, but not Polish, Romanian degrees, same with dentistry. That is why their earnings kept up, whilst the trades and manual workers earnings stagnated or decreased. So this free market hurr-durr bullshit is just that, bullshit. You guys love your protectionism and nativism, you just look after yourselves via a different mechanism.

 

[Miller]

That fucking watermark...

Some chuckles for the evening, Poso posted this earlier, the year has not been kind to these two

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Hillary should join PPP's Punt the Gunt program.

 

[verissimus]

There exist people who still believe what the Biden administration says?

Who?

Hollywood Hulk Hogan.