Incel and Lonely Men Debate thread - Defend men giving up or tell them otherwise

Basically "incel" is the new "gay" at this point. Since I see pretty everyone using and misusing it all the time
Replying and adding to my previous, there is a person I that know that made these excellent points on the whole incel hysteria
1. A driving force of "incel" and "have sex" are asspained women who think that football players can be incels for operating on a different mentality than them. Additionally it's the virtue signaling twitter celebrities, and beta male orbiters who carry water for them.
2. Simple nihilism, disillusion makes you an incel.
3. They have made a parallel to "idle hands are the playthings of the devil" to explain away that people who aren't wagecucking enough, and think too much, will suddenly be possessed by the incel.
4. The only thing that counts is having sex, based on their axiom. Therefore, I read about a cult that would trick bored urbanite housewives into joining them where they were branded with hot irons and trafficked as sex slaves. Because this cult procured in the sex-having, they are economically productive, socially successful, and morally right.
 
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This is like claiming you helped an Ethiopian by screaming FIND FOOD at them for hours on end while they lay on the ground starving.
Actually, I think it's even worse. The last thing an incel should be doing is trying to talk to women. If they are in that position they should be focused on self-improvement and get their own houses in order before they even think about trying to start a relationship with a woman.
 
Define what’s wrong with me.
I'm sorry to hear that someone in your past hurt you, but you chose to stay broken. Worse yet, you expect other people to spend the rest of their lives trying to fix yours. Everyone has hard times. Everyone experiences misery and suffering. Not just you. There's nothing inherently wrong with seeking help, but ultimately only you can fix your own life. The impression I get is that you want to grift on other people's pity.

It's nothing personal, and if I'm wrong then I'm wrong, but I used to be one of those assholes who blamed his problems on everyone else but myself. I would know. What made me feel whole was taking charge of my own life. Taking ownership of my problems. Granted, there will be things you need help with but remember that the only person who can truly fix you is you. You have to want to be healed and move on.

And while it's not your fault you were abused, it is your fault for not moving on and forcing other people to dote on you. Don't become what you hate because you choose to dwell in the past.
 
Basically "incel" is the new "gay" at this point. Since I see pretty everyone using and misusing it all the time
Wow, people are using a word as a slur AND they misinterpret its intended meaning? In 2021?
Holy shit, good thing we have this YT retard to explain that to us!!!

Youre also implying nihilism is a good mindset to have. It isnt. Its infantile, especially when you dont understand what it actually is and just use it as a cope like most of the internet does.
I mean you thought just throwing the word out would act as some sort of defence, thats funny.
 
Wow, people are using a word as a slur AND they misinterpret its intended meaning? In 2021?
Holy shit, good thing we have this YT retard to explain that to us!!!

Youre also implying nihilism is a good mindset to have. It isnt. Its infantile, especially when you dont understand what it actually is and just use it as a cope like most of the internet does.
I mean you thought just throwing the word out would act as some sort of defence, thats funny.
It could be worse, like gypsy crusader
 
I'm sorry to hear that someone in your past hurt you, but you chose to stay broken. Worse yet, you expect other people to spend the rest of their lives trying to fix yours. Everyone has hard times. Everyone experiences misery and suffering. Not just you. There's nothing inherently wrong with seeking help, but ultimately only you can fix your own life. The impression I get is that you want to grift on other people's pity.

It's nothing personal, and if I'm wrong then I'm wrong, but I used to be one of those assholes who blamed his problems on everyone else but myself. I would know. What made me feel whole was taking charge of my own life. Taking ownership of my problems. Granted, there will be things you need help with but remember that the only person who can truly fix you is you. You have to want to be healed and move on.

And while it's not your fault you were abused, it is your fault for not moving on and forcing other people to dote on you. Don't become what you hate because you choose to dwell in the past.
The advice I was given is that if life knocks you down, get back up and knock it back twice as hard. Use whatever anger and hate you have for your circumstances to drive yourself to overcome them. Probably not flawless advice but it's good for getting started towards a goal.
 
I'm sorry to hear that someone in your past hurt you, but you chose to stay broken. Worse yet, you expect other people to spend the rest of their lives trying to fix yours.
HOLY FUCK! HOLY FUCK! You are the most dumb knuckle dragging ape I have ever met! Show in my my fucking post, quote me where I said that, and you will find that I did not say that so DONT PUT WORDS IN MY MOUTH YOU DUMB PIECE OF SHIT! FUCK YOU!

I love how you people will blame me. Fuck you.
 
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Don’t tell me what to do. In fact why don’t you go fuck yourself.
Fucking lol.

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I don't even know if this is a troll or not at this point. If it is it's very good. If it's not it's even funnier.
 
I mean, I understand his attitude. Until a proverbial lightning strikes or someone will get him to therapy, having one too many brushes with assholes will set you in a "assume asshole" mode. He will likely not be receptive to arguments from the opposite side, until something in his life changes.

But yeah.
It's the same reason feminist say all men are pigs, dad was an asshole and the men they dated where the same kind of asshole as daddy.
 
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It could be worse, like gypsy crusader
Im not watching your ecelebs anon.
Personally, I'm going to chalk this up as trolling
Nah, pretty sure this is a genuine reaction. If you use a coping mechanism (here its probably "rationalization" - creating logical reasons for bad behavor) instead of dealing with your problems over time you will grow protective of it and you will "lash out" at others trying to upset the balance or "deny" that what youre doing is not getting you anywhere. LatinasAreTheFuture is not ready to accept that they have been gimping themselves by avoiding the problem, its easyier than doing something about it. Untill they do there is no point trying to help, but the effort thus far might not have been wasted.
 
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