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[Torque Wheeler]

The W12 scares me. That cylinder configuration doesn't look...natural. Boxer 4s and straight 6s have balanced primary and secondary mechanical forces, except boxer 4s have a rocking couple because of their minor offset between banks. V8s and up get away with balance because of the number of cylinders and power strokes per revolution. My diesel 6 cylinder is so smooth I can leave my beer on the valve cover while it's running.

I bet the power of your W12 is awesome though. Basically two VR6s right?

 

[WhatInTheActualFuck]

The W12 scares me. That cylinder configuration doesn't look...natural. Boxer 4s and straight 6s have balanced primary and secondary mechanical forces, except boxer 4s have a rocking couple because of their minor offset between banks. V8s and up get away with balance because of the number of cylinders and power strokes per revolution. My diesel 6 cylinder is so smooth I can leave my beer on the valve cover while it's running.

I bet the power of your W12 is awesome though. Basically two VR6s right?

I think it's like three I4's sharing a common crank.

 

[Torque Wheeler]

3 I4s??? I had to double check for my own reference. That's definitely two VR6 engines

 

[TiggerNits]

Plenty of people give me shit about my current ride because it's kinda small and is enthusiast-focused to a fault in their mind, despite being a (reasonably practical) hatchback. To them, it's a bad car, but to me, it's a low-cost therapy session available on-demand.

If its Veloster they're right and /o/ is right to insult you in every thread

If it's anything else, fuck'em

 

[Car Won't Crank]

If its Veloster they're right and /o/ is right to insult you in every thread

If it's anything else, fuck'em

What about the Veloster N?

 

[TiggerNits]

What about the Veloster N?

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[Torque Wheeler]

Velosters are crap. It has a minivan solid axle rear end. Nissan couldn't even be bothered to give it IRS or at the very fucking least swing arms. That's a car I would be embarrassed to be near

 

[Car Won't Crank]

Velosters are crap. It has a minivan solid axle rear end. Nissan couldn't even be bothered to give it IRS or at the very fucking least swing arms. That's a car I would be embarrassed to be near

The Veloster N is made by Hyundai and has MacPherson front and multi-link rear suspension. Looks ugly but is a properly fun hot hatch. The new Nissan Z though is mighty intriguing.

 

[Torque Wheeler]

The Veloster N is made by Hyundai and has MacPherson front and multi-link rear suspension. Looks ugly but is a properly fun hot hatch. The new Nissan Z though is mighty intriguing.

Oops. I spent the evening rebuilding and rejetting a carb. Has anyone used carb dip before? I just bought a bucket of it and it's not too bad. Normally I just use pinesol and elbow grease.

 

[TiggerNits]

The Veloster N is made by Hyundai and has MacPherson front and multi-link rear suspension. Looks ugly but is a properly fun hot hatch.

And then turns in to a time bomb after 25k miles across the entire AC, electric and suspension parts that aren't covered in that 100k mile warranty .

My oldest's godfather runs the entire parts and service depts of a Ford, Kia, Hyundai and Nissan dealer. He will not let anyone he likes or goes to church with buy a Hyundai/Kia outside of the Stinger. He has nothing but horror stories about the awful overall design of Korea's cars and for him to hate them so, says a lot. Because he dailies a 92 Cherokee he's rebuilt by hand from a chasis. The man can work around bad shit, he can forgive bad engineering when it can be redesigned by the end user to fit a need. He has zero patience for Hyundai's "plastic on potmetal bullshit"

 

[Car Won't Crank]

And then turns in to a time bomb after 25k miles across the entire AC, electric and suspension parts that aren't covered in that 100k mile warranty .

My oldest's godfather runs the entire parts and service depts of a Ford, Kia, Hyundai and Nissan dealer. He will not let anyone he likes or goes to church with buy a Hyundai/Kia outside of the Stinger. He has nothing but horror stories about the awful overall design of Korea's cars and for him to hate them so, says a lot. Because he dailies a 92 Cherokee he's rebuilt by hand from a chasis. The man can work around bad shit, he can forgive bad engineering when it can be redesigned by the end user to fit a need. He has zero patience for Hyundai's "plastic on potmetal bullshit"

Are the Hyundai 2.0L turbo motors that bad? They've put that thing in a lot of cars and crossovers the past few years.

 

[TiggerNits]

Are the Hyundai 2.0L turbo motors that bad? They've put that thing in a lot of cars and crossovers the past few years.

The motor is fine, transmissions are good. It's everything they bolt on that becomes an issue. Hyundai's are like VWs. You buy it, drive and maintain it, and the second you get a repair bill over 1k on it around 30k miles, you trade it in for a Toyota, Beamer, Merc or Infiniti and pass avalanche that's about to hit you down to the next guy

 

[Mojo Thief]

The motor is fine, transmissions are good. It's everything they bolt on that becomes an issue. Hyundai's are like VWs. You buy it, drive and maintain it, and the second you get a repair bill over 1k on it around 30k miles, you trade it in for a Toyota, Beamer, Merc or Infiniti and pass avalanche that's about to hit you down to the next guy

I'd say I agree, but I had an ancient Hyundai Elantra that was abused its entire life, and it was only near the end of its lifespan (around 200k miles) that it needed significant work to the suspension that exceeded the value of the car. Never had an engine or transmission problem as you said, despite the fact it went (not once but twice)* over 20k miles without an oil change. Rolling cockroach, that thing.

*Not by me, the first time it was by the previous owner, who I knew, and then it was by a coworker who I lent the car to (company covered the damages, of which there were none seemingly).

 

[Torque Wheeler]

For a cheap car my go to is the Honda CR-V. They regularly go past 300k miles on the B20B Z2 engine (1st gen non-VTEC) and are dead simple to work on. A new engine with transmission imported from Japan will cost you less than $900 easy. When mine dropped an exhaust valve I figured why bother sending off the head to get worked on when I can drop in a whole new power train

 

[Car Won't Crank]

For a cheap car my go to is the Honda CR-V. They regularly go past 300k miles on the B20B Z2 engine (1st gen non-VTEC) and are dead simple to work on. A new engine with transmission imported from Japan will cost you less than $900 easy. When mine dropped an exhaust valve I figured why bother sending off the head to get worked on when I can drop in a whole new power train

That motor was put in a lot of 90s/2000s Hondas. A lot of those first gen CRV are rusted to oblivion though and clean ones are starting to appreciate, especially in a manual.

 

[Torque Wheeler]

Not around here, although I managed to make a little back on my freshened-up CR-V. There's two on craigslist under $1500 with a 5 speed. Moving out of the rust belt has its perks. Call me if you want me to get you one

 

[TiggerNits]

You know what car we're gonna see a shit ton of over the next 4 years? The Ford Maverick. A 20k small truck based on a mini CUV platform with incredible mileage and a very simple design. Supposedly the pre-orders for them are through the roof and its already being seen as the truck a lot of Subarus and older RAV-4s are gonna be traded in for.

 

[Torque Wheeler]

You know what car we're gonna see a shit ton of over the next 4 years? The Ford Maverick. A 20k small truck based on a mini CUV platform with incredible mileage and a very simple design. Supposedly the pre-orders for them are through the roof and its already being seen as the truck a lot of Subarus and older RAV-4s are gonna be traded in for.

How do you feel about it? I was absolutely on board until I noticed it's unibody. The high gas mileage is cool, but I want a real 1/4 ton CHEAP truck with a frame. Maybe I'm just too spoiled by 3/4 ton trucks

 

[TiggerNits]

How do you feel about it? I was absolutely on board until I noticed it's unibody. The high gas mileage is cool, but I want a real 1/4 ton CHEAP truck with a frame. Maybe I'm just too spoiled by 3/4 ton trucks

I think its fine for the people it's aimed at. The kind who won't have a trailer that wasn't rented from uhaul and won't take it down anything more unkept than a county dirt road. If I see one on a 4x4 trail, I'll know the owner is either a retard or a complete madman who worked some serious engineering black magic to make it work, the same way I look at guys in modded Porsche Cayenne's with 120k miles and mud tires or dude's who threw a Pontiac Gran Prix body on an S-10 Blazer.

There's a reason all the early dealer ads for it were urban lesbian couples loading potting soil and cruiser bicycles in them

 

[Torque Wheeler]

I think its fine for the people it's aimed at. The kind who won't have a trailer that wasn't rented from uhaul and won't take it down anything more unkept than a county dirt road. If I see one on a 4x4 trail, I'll know the owner is either a retard or a complete madman who worked some serious engineering black magic to make it work, the same way I look at guys in modded Porsche Cayenne's with 120k miles and mud tires or dude's who threw a Pontiac Gran Prix body on an S-10 Blazer.

There's a reason all the early dealer ads for it were urban lesbian couples loading potting soil and cruiser bicycles in them

I agree that it is about the gayest truck I've seen, but in a mostly positive way. 95% of trucks I see don't have anything in the bed. Any truck made after 1999 has terminal toughest guy in the Walgreens parking lot syndrome. Regrettably, I own two.

I want to see a maverick rock crawler now. Remember when that guy lifted a Prius and put mud dauber tires on it and creamed a bunch of jeeps while maintaining 30 mpg?

Can we bring back the Nissan hardbody though? Is that too much to ask for? Or at least the last gen ranger?