Taliban offensive of 2021 and collapse of Afghan government.

[MG-34]

Are we gonna get any historic video of the US handing off some sort of symbolic moniker to the Taliban like that video of the British surrendering control of Hong Kong? Maybe the lowering of the American flag, and raising the flag of the emirate of Afghanistan? While US and Taliban troops stand in formation on opposing sides of a tarmac. That would be so dope, not gonna lie.

That's more of a European thing. I don't even think the US did that when Carter gave away Panama or Clinton abandoned the major linchpin military bases in the Philippines.

 

[mr.moon1488]

This is rather amusing, they reacted INSTANTLY to threats from within when getting called out for their incompetence, something I fully expected. Where was this speed and action when military personnel were attacking Tucker Carlson for commenting on the woke shit the military is pushing? It used to be that if you were military and made a comment at all about any political shit you were cashiered, now you're allowed to, as long as you don't criticize specific ideology and its members.

They both hate and fear the military. They've read enough history to know that many corrupt and weak leaders have died at the hands of their own armies.

 

[Ishtar]

That's more of a European thing. I don't even think the US did that when Carter gave away Panama or Clinton abandoned the major linchpin military bases in the Philippines.

Figures, America has no taste for pageantry. Even when the europeans were retreating during decolonization they maintained a commitment to displays of honor and grace.

 

[Dona Morte]

https://archive.ph/DSREZ interesting account for the happenings.
I also had no idea of the Russia operations in Syria.
Afghanistan 24/7 tweeted the withdrawing from the Airport originally.

 

[DiscoRodeo]

Figures, America has no taste for pageantry. Even when the europeans were retreating during decolonization they maintained a commitment to displays of honor and grace.

This is factually false. Even when retreating Americans maintained a commitment to manning the McDonalds till the last man, truly a display of American honor and grace if I have ever seen one.

 

[Terrifik]

https://twitter.com/TheInsiderPaper/status/1431376188975591424

Traitor of the highest order

Following an ISIS-K attack outside a Kabul airport that killed at least 13 US servicemen and more than 100 Afghans, a Marine officer Scheller was relieved of duty on Friday after criticising military leaders in a viral video.

I am willing to throw it all away to say to my senior leaders, ‘I demand accountability – Marine Commander Stuart Scheller

Marine commander Stuart Scheller, who made a viral video, said he’s putting his nearly two-decade career on the line to call out senior military and civilian leaders for failures in Afghanistan.

On Thursday, a Marine infantry officer and battalion commander took to social media to express his dissatisfaction with senior military leadership’s handling of the United States military’s withdrawal from Afghanistan, as well as what he claims is a lack of accountability for mistakes made by those charged with managing America’s longest war.

“I’m not saying we’ve got to be in Afghanistan forever, but I am saying: Did any of you throw your rank on the table and say ‘hey, it’s a bad idea to evacuate Bagram Airfield, a strategic airbase, before we evacuate everyone,’” asked Marine Lt. Col. Stuart Scheller in a recent video shared to Facebook and LinkedIn.

“Did anyone do that? And when you didn’t think to do that, did anyone raise their hand and say ‘we completely messed this up.’

Scheller, who identified himself as the Battalion Commander for the Advanced Infantry Training Battalion, posted the video on Facebook Thursday evening.

Scheller updated a Facebook post again on Friday afternoon, announcing that he had been relieved of duty:

“My chain of command is doing exactly what I would do… if I were in their shoes,” he wrote. “I appreciate the opportunities AITB command provided. To all the news agencies asking for interviews… I will not be making any statements other than what’s on my social platforms until I exit the Marine Corps. America has many issues… but it’s my home… it’s where my three sons will become men. America is still the light shining in a fog of chaos. When my Marine Corps career comes to an end, I look forward to a new beginning. My life’s purpose is to make America the most lethal and effective foreign diplomacy instrument. While my days of hand to hand violence may be ending…I see a new light on the horizon.”



Scheller is currently stationed at Camp Lejeune’s School of Infantry East and will take over as AITB commander in June 2021, according to his official bio.

The infantry officer began the video message by addressing the terrorist attack on Thursday at Kabul’s Hamid Karzai International Airport by Islamic State militants, which killed 13 US service members. The Marine Corps confirmed on Friday that 11 of those killed in the attack were Marines in a statement.

“I’ve been in the Marine infantry for 17 years. I started my tour with Victor 1-8, that’s the current unit that’s doing perimeter security, dealing with the mess that’s going on there,” Scheller said. “You can see open-source reporting that there was an explosion and some people were killed. I know through my inside channels that one of the people that was killed was someone that I have a personal relationship with. I won’t go into more detail because the families are still being notified.”

“I’m not making this video because it’s potentially an emotional time. I’m making it because I have a growing discontent and contempt for my perceived ineptitude at the foreign policy level and I want to specifically ask some questions to some of my senior leaders.”

Video before Marine was relieved of duty



Excerpts from the video of Marine Commander Stuart Scheller:

“And sir, you wrote ‘Some of you may be struggling with the simple question ‘was it all worth it? We want you to know that your service is meaningful, powerful and important. You fought for the Marine to your left and the Marine to your right. You never let them down.’

Then you go on to say that if we’re struggling, we should seek counseling. Which, you know, I get it. People have killed people. I’ve killed people, and I seek counseling, and that’s fine. There’s a time and place for that.

The reason people are so upset on social media right now is not because the Marine on the battlefield let someone down. That service member always rose to the occasion and has done extraordinary things. People are upset because their senior leaders let them down and none of them are raising their hands and accepting accountability or saying ‘we messed this up.’

If an O-5 battalion commander has the simplest live fire incident, EO complaint. Boom. Fired.

But we have a secretary of defense that testified to Congress in May that the Afghan National Security Forces could withstand the Taliban advance. We have Chairmen of the Joint Chiefs — who the commandant is a member of that — who’s supposed to advise on military policy. We have a Marine combatant commander. All of these people are supposed to advise.

And I’m not saying we’ve got to be in Afghanistan forever, but I am saying: Did any of you throw your rank on the table and say ‘hey, it’s a bad idea to evacuate Bagram Airfield, a strategic airbase, before we evacuate everyone.’ Did anyone do that? And when you didn’t think to do that, did anyone raise their hand and say ‘we completely messed this up?’”

Scheller stated that he is ready to risk his position, retirement, and “family’s stability” in order to say that “it gives me some moral high ground to demand the same honesty, integrity, and accountability for my senior leaders.”

Marine Commander Stuart Scheller concludes his video with the following words:

“But what I’ll say is, from my position, potentially all those people did die in vain if we don’t have senior leaders that own up and raise their hand and say ‘we did not do this well in the end,’” he said. “Without that we just keep repeating the same mistakes.”

“I want to say this very strongly: I have been fighting for 17 years. I am willing to throw it all away to say to my senior leaders ‘I demand accountability.’”

 

[Dona Morte]

Appreciate the fuller interview on the soldier.
https://archive.ph/mSjBd - GREAT podcaster from Afghanistan.
This tweet though jumped out at me.

https://archive.ph/xTyaI - News about conflicts Twitter account archive.

Published 26th Thursday.

 

[Random Internet Person]

Still no signs of mutiny. https://www.dailywire.com/news/excl...not-disrespect-biden-over-afghanistan-debacle

 

[Dona Morte]

Anyone find a video of this?
Tons of accounts passing it around but no video.
This would imply a local station there but they loo like stills of a video.

 

[Feline Supremacist]

Appreciate the fuller interview on the soldier.
https://archive.ph/mSjBd - GREAT podcaster from Afghanistan.
This tweet though jumped out at me.

https://archive.ph/xTyaI - News about conflicts Twitter account archive.
View attachment 2486309 Published 26th Thursday.

Hmm I recall that faggot Hayden talking shit about Trump nonstop when he was CiC as well as ultra faggot Mattis.

 

[AcidityLiquidity]

Still no signs of mutiny. https://www.dailywire.com/news/excl...not-disrespect-biden-over-afghanistan-debacle

There won't be a mutiny, the guys and troons at the top are all thoroughbred cucks and would never raise a hand against their masters.

Jet Fuel Johnny has a lot of good posts on the topic in the Corpse Biden Megathread

 

[MG-34]

Still no signs of mutiny. https://www.dailywire.com/news/excl...not-disrespect-biden-over-afghanistan-debacle

That's fucking bullshit. Retired military aren't subject to the UCMJ. Biden's Diversity Stasi need to re-read the law.

 

[mindlessobserver]

Lt. Scheller relieved of command.

Spoiler

"The video was posted online Thursday evening by Scheller, who identified himself as the Battalion Commander for Advanced Infantry Training Battalion. On Friday afternoon, Scheller shared another post to Facebook announcing that he had been relieved of command."

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He's got a bright & shining career path ahead of him in Congress, for sure.

A part of me hopes we have an "I am sparticus" moment here. No officer worth his rank should lead his troops under this kind of command. Battalion and company commanders should not publicly question leadership as a matter of normal business, but this is not normal business anymore.

If the generals won't take responsibility for this cock up then i guess the field grades need too by resigning en masse.

 

[Dona Morte]

DRUMF BAD

 

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That's fucking bullshit. Retired military aren't subject to the UCMJ. Biden's Diversity Stasi need to re-read the law.

When has the modern Uniparty given a single solitary shit about the law? If someone they "own" like an ex-military goon says anything disrespectful against the potato in chief, they'll be destroyed.

 

[Feline Supremacist]

DRUMF BAD

She has a mambo with some hemp in Roblox

 

[captkrisma]

That's fucking bullshit. Retired military aren't subject to the UCMJ. Biden's Diversity Stasi need to re-read the law.

You are actually able to be courts marshaled when retired. It's rare and held for really horrible cases (like rape or CP), but it does and can happen. If convicted, they lose their pension.

EDIT: I should also caveat that it's typically in line with a serious criminal charge, as military pension is not considered earned income, and therefore is not stopped when convicted of a lesser crime.

 

[Feline Supremacist]

A part of me hopes we have an "I am sparticus" moment here. No officer worth his rank should lead his troops under this kind of command. Battalion and company commanders should not publicly question leadership as a matter of normal business, but this is not normal business anymore.

If the generals won't take responsibility for this cock up then i guess the field grades need too by resigning en masse.

It's the enlisted that will do something, even if its just to gtfo

 

[Ghostse]

Bush Sr was very much aware of the danger of being quagmired and Vietnam syndrome was a very real thing, most of his staff advocated against it as well: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YENbElb5-xY people who were adults in the 2000s watch this video of Cheney and their jaw hits the floor because he seems to have made a complete 180 since that interview. I'm not really sure what was the worse outcome, not doing Desert Storm fully to Baghdad or doing it. Desert Storm was such a magnificent operation that it completely destroyed the Vietnam Syndrome and its advocates. There would never have been "nation building" without a series of toe tipping operations like Grenada, Desert Storm and Yugo. Mogadishu was a fiasco but it was limited in scope compared to the years long attritional stuff we feared like Vietnam. By the time 9/11 had occurred we had enough acclimating to the water that society was fully willing to trust the deep state and dive into the pool. I desperately hope that we get "Afghanistan syndrome" and wind down this interventionist horse shit but I know deep down its not going to happen.

Iraq was viewed as a buffer/counter to Iran and the Saudis.
Bush didn't want to get into a pissing match with Iran that close to Russia imploding and risk Russia doing something really stupid because they felt like the US was going to strangle them; i.e. we are only going to get weaker, time for full-scale war is now.

The Saudi people were super pissed that filthy infidels were being allowed to defile their sacred sand. Not deposing Saddam was the right move (for everyone outside of Iraq), no matter how wrong it felt.

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The young Afghans among 170 killed by ISIS-K suicide bomber as they tried to make it to freedom: Female journalist who was hosting a morning TV show, a taekwondo champion and university students with dreams of a Western lifestyle among dead​

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9933821/Funerals-held-Kabul-ISIS-suicide-attack-kills-170-airport.html

https://archive.vn/785CF

"Dreams of a western lifestyle"
Fuck off, we. are. full.
Should have armed up, fought the Taliban, and maybe get it yourself.

 

[BradCarter]

At the risk of power leveling, I can anecdotally confirm enlisted in the national guard were already disillusioned. A large % are just waiting out their contracts and aren't going to reenlist. This was before due to all the woke bullshit and the Capitol deployment cockup. Dunno how that translates to the real military.