Megathread SRS and GRS surgeons and associated horrors - the medical community of experimental surgeons, the secret community of home butchers

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I would like little more than to say, "That will never happen. There is no place to anchor a uterus, there is no way to provide sufficient blood flow to a uterus, there is no means of matching such an implant because sex influences rejection rates with transplantation, and there is no way even an implanted embryo could survive in a uterus implanted in a male body. No one would be so negligent as to even attempt it."

I would like to say all of that.

Unfortunately, some lunatic, like Bowers or Supron, will do this sooner or later. The patient will die.

And, when they do, the surgeon will probably be hailed as a "pioneer," the patient as a "martyr."
Some Troon flew out to Brazil a couple of weeks ago to get a womb transplant , so there is some surgeon out there whose hand is out and whose medical ethics are low to say the least.
Can't remember the name of the troon but cat party started the thread regarding it.
 
I would like little more than to say, "That will never happen. There is no place to anchor a uterus, there is no way to provide sufficient blood flow to a uterus, there is no means of matching such an implant because sex influences rejection rates with transplantation, and there is no way even an implanted embryo could survive in a uterus implanted in a male body. No one would be so negligent as to even attempt it."

I would like to say all of that.

Unfortunately, some lunatic, like Bowers or Supron, will do this sooner or later. The patient will die.

And, when they do, the surgeon will probably be hailed as a "pioneer," the patient as a "martyr."
If a man wants/demands utero transplants just so they can fetishize feeling like a woman, then they deserve to die.
 
Some Troon flew out to Brazil a couple of weeks ago to get a womb transplant , so there is some surgeon out there whose hand is out and whose medical ethics are low to say the least.
Can't remember the name of the troon but cat party started the thread regarding it.
You're thinking of Jessica Alves. Here are some photos, by the way, from the Mirror article (Archive) about this STUNNING and BRAVE "woman" who is on her(his) quest to get proper woman-like baby making organs, I'm sure you're completely surprised at how well she(he) passes.
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Plus a bonus photo from a Daily Mail article (Archive)
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You're thinking of Jessica Alves. Here are some photos, by the way, from the Mirror article (Archive) about this STUNNING and BRAVE "woman" who is on her(his) quest to get proper woman-like baby making organs, I'm sure you're completely surprised at how well she(he) passes.
this post belongs in the bad plastic surgery thread too.
 
Forgive me if this was posted before, but this article from pinknews "Trans men ‘let down’ and in ‘extreme distress’ as NHS quietly stops life-changing penis surgery".

You would think this means they stopped providing the surgery, but no, this only means they aren't doing it currently during a pandemic.

Noteworthy quotes such as “Nobody in their right mind would choose this, we have to – because the opposite is pain and not wanting to be here." Yes, no one in their right mind would choose this, so close yet far of understanding.

" Finlay’s phalloplasty took six surgeries over three years, which he thinks would have increased to a seven- or eight-year timeframe today, based on the current waiting lists." Imagine fucking it up so badly you might need up to seven or eight surgeries and this is no one but your own fault.

"Those who’ve been referred for phalloplasty by an NHS gender clinic have already been through an arduous period of waiting. In some parts of the country, trans people referred by their GP to a gender clinic wait five or more years for that crucial first appointment – with no support or treatment in the meantime."

Reminder this is a surgery done via free healthcare with no previous illness affecting body parts - such as breast cancer - or any need of actual medical treatment that affects someone physically. Yet they are still whining, cry me a river. The good part is, if you have to wait up to five years that is likely enough time for the excitement of the trend to wear off. Or so I hope.

He describes being “trapped” by the situation: “I’ve had stage one… so, I’ve got my penis, and I’ve also got everything else. I’ve not got testicles. It’s quite a lot to be going on down there.”
James says he’s in a relatively fortunate position – a job, supportive family – but “it’s still s**t for me”.


No fake balls so everything is still shit.

Miles had “absolutely none whatsoever” from NHS England or St Peters, and then, confusingly, had an appointment at an NHS gender clinic where the clinician allegedly denied that phalloplasty provision was on hold and went on a “wild rant” at Miles, telling him he was “stupid” for getting information about the situation from social media.

LOL doctors are getting fed up with the trans shit.

In addition to that, “the trans masculine community has one of the worst healthcare communication issues I’ve ever seen,” he says.
That’s in part due to clinicians who will insult phalloplasty, and pressure patients not to try and have them. They will s**t talk them all the time and say how awful they are.”


> Refer to pictures of this thread. Yes, they're awful, it's great how there are people working in free healthcare being honest about it.

“The in-between stages are so difficult to cope with, when you’re neither one or the other. You’ve got this penis that you can’t use, you can’t pee out of,” he says.

I've got news for you. You'll always be in a "neither one or the other." At best you always be the poor girl that got indoctrinated via internet trends and done a stupid fucking choice to mangle your genitals. You will never have a real dick you can use. Maybe with a lot of effort if your surgeon doesn't mess it up you can pee with it, but maybe this doesn't work - What you will do if that's the case?

In the end she only suggest that they need "more surgeons, more joined up care, a dedicate hospital". This article came from someone on tumblr, of course, which they wrote "human rights violation 1000%". Of course, unnecessary fake-dick surgery is a HUMAN RIGHT and if you stop it providing this cosmetic surgery in the middle of a worldwide health crisis is somehow human rights violation.

Sometimes i'm sorry for the person that is brain-washed to believe this shit so much they go after surgery, especially if they are women, because 99% of men -if not 100% of them - seek it out because of their disgusting fetishes, but half of the time i'm also leaned to not care because it's very likely people warned about the disaster that would happen if they insisted with it and the extreme arrogance and selfishness every troon has. In my opinion no free healthcare should give free surgery or hormones for troons, the only thing they should provide is therapy.

Jesus fucking tits!

The best solution for these deluded broads are one of those fake penis/urine cup combinations that allow them to pee standing up out of “a penis”.

I remember a funny reddit thread I saw on r/ftm where they were talking about “packers”. (Basically fake penises they can wear and pretendplay to be men.)

Now the hilarious part is that none of these girls seemed to have anything but the most basic knowledge about male anatomy!

One was looking for a fake dick she could use for “wearing” for peeing AND for sex.

Some dude jumped into the thread to inform them that (shocker!) the male anatomy actually changes according to the situation, and nobody runs around with a 6 inch dick 24-7.

Imagine being a guy in a toilet. And some little 5 foot manlet with a helium voice (“Hello fellow dudes!”) stands by the urinal next to you... And pulls out an absolutely massive 5 inch monster cock to pee with.

Can you imagine the stares?!

(I assume the ladies in here know that a 5-6 inch erect dick is usually like an inch or something un-erect. Which would put them a giant step ahead of apparently most FTMs.)

this post belongs in the bad plastic surgery thread too.
It’s not really BAD plastic surgery per se.

It’s just how the majority of the results come out. (Unless we’re talking about an extremely subtle nose job or something like that.)

They never fucking end up looking 10 or 20 years younger. They usually end with this weird, artificial uncanny valley look.
 
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You're thinking of Jessica Alves. Here are some photos, by the way, from the Mirror article (Archive) about this STUNNING and BRAVE "woman" who is on her(his) quest to get proper woman-like baby making organs, I'm sure you're completely surprised at how well she(he) passes.

Lol, Rodrigo Alves won't actually go through with it. This is all just attention-whoring (as is usual with him). Notice how he left himself an out:
She insisted that she will not go through with the surgery if doctors decide it is not safe.

Interestingly, he's been brought up in this thread before - back when he got SRS and when we were discussing rib removal surgery (see: here & here).

His story is basically that he's a massive attention-whore from an extremely wealthy family. He's been getting cosmetic surgery all his life (hence his previous nickname: "The Human Ken Doll") and trying to get on reality tv shows and have news articles written about him.

Interesting quote from an old article, pre-transition:
Rodrigo’s surgery bill to date [as of 2018] is over £360,000 and totals 60 procedures that include a face lift, brow and eye lifts, 10 nose jobs, chest implants, a fake six pack and bum implants - not to mention regular Botox and fillers.
Doctors eventually started declining to perform more surgery on him (there's only so many nose/face jobs you can get before it's all just a mass of scar tissue...), so he decided to hop on the transgender fad to give himself more opportunities. Anything for more press, attention, and pointless surgeries. :)
 
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This is in reply to a post from more than a year ago, so it's very possible other people have commented on this, and I apologize if this is merely the latest in a line of identical statements. Nonetheless, I feel compelled, as someone who watched this happen, to say:

We know.

In 2001, Abbot and Takeda - then the makers of Lupron, operating together as TAP Pharmaceutical Products - were forced to pay $875,000,000 in fines relating to their unethical practices in urging Doctors to dispense samples of Lupron, and to then fraudulently claim hundreds in government reimbursement for each dose. The depths to which Abbot, in particular, is willing to sink in pursuit of profit is important to note.

Moving forward, Lupron's reputation did not improve. From 2007 to 2017, an article much like this one could be found once per quarter or so in a major magazine. I recall TIME running several pieces like this one (shocking, isn't it?) and I encourage everyone to read it:


There was serious talk of restricting all off-label uses of Lupron. It is a chemotherapeutic agent, and it is an important one for treatment for a few types of cancers, but it should never be given to children. There were several major lawsuits in the works,.

And, then, suddenly, when things seem most grim for the future of "puberty blockers," millions begin to pour into "trans rights" organizations. Gender dysmorphic disorder is banished as a mental illness, and becomes a strictly physical condition that insurers are required to cover.

And Lupron, and other drugs of its kind, shift from black sheep that could well be restricted in ways that few drugs have ever been, to being among the more profitable drugs on the market. One year of Lupron is more than $20,000, and there is no generic. A child prescribed it as a "puberty blocker" for the purpose of transition can be expected to be on a drug like Lupron for as long as a decade. Remember the article - those were the consequences of only a few years, not a decade.

There is, obviously, a cultural element to the movement. There are, obviously, to put it bluntly, a lot of degenerates involved. (I have known, and I have nothing but sympathy for, HSTS patients. While I believe their condition to be rooted primarily in psychology and an intense self-hate resulting from being gay, they do, indeed, suffer from it. By contrast, I have known only a few AGPs who were other than walking masses of paraphilias and malignant narcissism.) It has, tragically, become a point of virtue to support.

But what drives it is very simple. It is what drove Thalidomide; it is what drove desPLEX; it is what drove Meridia and Fen-Phen. It is what drove every drug that was known by its manufacturer to have side-effects that outweigh any potential benefits a thousand times over:

The avarice of companies willing to destroy an unlimited number of lives across multiple generations in service to their bottom line.

If you find any of this difficult to believe, I urge you to read up on desPLEX. It was prescribed to millions of women over a period of decades to prevent complications with pregnancy, chief among them being spontaneous miscarriage. The company knew, in the 1950s, that it induced miscarriage and caused major reproductive malformities and carcinomas. It was not withdrawal as a treatment approved for pregnant women in America until 1971. It continued to be sold in other countries until 1985. The FDA of today is, horrifying as it is to admit it, even less inquisitive and more corrupt than it was when desPLEX was available.

* TAP fined: https://www.nytimes.com/2001/10/04/...-to-pay-875-million-to-settle-fraud-case.html
* Consequences of Lupron: https://www.statnews.com/2017/02/02/lupron-puberty-children-health-problems/
* desPLEX: https://diethylstilbestrol.co.uk/the-des-story-long-term-consequences-of-prenatal-exposure/

TL;DR: We know exactly what the consequences of "puberty blockers" are. We have known for 20 years. But, because they are profitable, they are allowed to be prescribed at ever-increasing levels, which is perhaps the greatest violation of biomedical ethics in my entire life.
Thank you for the fantastic and concise writeup on this. I kept meaning to write something similar but my brain would short circuit with rage every time I started and also wasn't sure whether to put it here or the "parents of trans kids" thread.

It shouldn't be surprising but it nonetheless continues to blow my mind how many TRAs just assume they're some kind of magic pause button and do literally no research into what that class of drugs are, their history, and how they work, but will still SWEAR up and down they are "safe and reversible" as the for-profit trans medicine machine effectively sterilizes hordes of non-gender conforming children. Its fucking disgusting and the reckoning can't come soon enough.
 
Front-line health workers hate them guts, if for nothing else then for the simple reason that they hold up hospital beds and resources that could save someone truly in need. The "gender affirming" bullshit was dreamed up by admins who have never seen a patient or worked in a ward for the past 10 years, if ever.
I can't imagine any serious doctor agreeing to do SRS or removal of healthy breasts. In my opinion it's insane that many doctors wouldn't amputate a healthy leg, yet have no problem in removing healthy breasts (of course, this doesn't count reduction.)
 
I can't imagine any serious doctor agreeing to do SRS or removal of healthy breasts. In my opinion it's insane that many doctors wouldn't amputate a healthy leg, yet have no problem in removing healthy breasts (of course, this doesn't count reduction.)
Hey! Medical school ain’t cheap!

And there’s also the whole Mengele-aspect to it.

Why did Doctors perform medical experiments at KZ camps?

Because they had an opportunity to do experiments that otherwise would never have been allowed (some of it actually important research that is used today, but that’s another story entirely.)

Among surgeons there is a minority that you could say have a certain god complex.

Inverting a penis and constructing a “vagina”, attaching a “penis” where one was never meant to be and the “plumbing” is all wrong...

This Mengele-“playing god”-nature of troon operations is appealing to these types of surgeons.

And to top it off, this is nothing they teach in medical school. Most surgeons get to experiment and invent their own “technique” which is why you see so much discussion among troons whether “vaginas” by doctor X are better than the ones by doctor Y.

So anyway, you're sayin' if I sign up for organ donation, my liver can save a life, my heart can save a life, my kidneys can save two lives...

...and my uterus can kill a troon?

Rad; I'm in.
WTF does a troon want with a uterus anyways?!?

I know some of them are absolutely delusional and think that “hurr-durr in a decade transwomen will be able to get pregnant!” But that’ll never fucking happen.

So what’s the purpose? Just to say you have it? It sounds like a medical disaster just waiting to happen!

At least they got an accurate expectation for what their results would look like lol
Shit just sounds fucking wild man!

Let’s start with the fact that HES NOT A SURGEON!!!

You call to make an appointment to get your balls, penis or breasts cut off, go to his office. Zero questions about mental health. Just payment and you get a card with an address and a time.

You show up, and it’s not even at a medical clinic but a fucking motel or warehouse. And then you’re told: “Oh yeah... The anesthesiologist couldn’t make it, so we’ll do it without sedation. But don’t worry, we’ll use a blockade and lots of lidocaine you won’t feel a thing. Just maybe look away!

Some weirdly feminine looking guy starts putting scalpels and saws on a tray. Oh hey, he didn’t sterilize them... Is that normal?

“Is that the nurse?” You ask.

No, that’s Rodrigo! He’s going to assist me. He’s a future patient himself!

And you just go: “Ok! Let’s do this!”

If that doesn’t show how mentally ill troons are, I don’t know what does.

Did you read about the guy he killed because he wanted his leg amputated?

What an absolutely fucked doc!! Why couldn’t he just run a low profile, sketchy pill mill? That’s what all the sane, greedy docs do. 100$ per visit cash, you see maybe 80-100 “patients” a day, tell them to only go to a particular pharmacy. And Bam! A few years of that and you’re a millionaire and can retire before the FDA starts snooping too much.

But this fucker had to cut balls off. Without anesthesia. For fucking decades!?!
 
Lol, Rodrigo Alves won't actually go through with it. This is all just attention-whoring (as is usual with him). Notice how he left himself an out:
He'll eventually kill himself anyways. I think if he finds a doctor who says "there's a 90% chance of death but the risk is worth it to make you feel cute n valid" he'll go through with it. I get the sense he likes trusting the doctors 100%, unless they aren't willilng to cut him up. Then they're just not qualified and he'll find someone who is.
 
Uterus transplant??
Theres not enough room in the male pelvis to hold a uterus. Would that shit not get squashed? I’m pretty sure it would end up prolapsing with all it just scrunching up in there.
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Also, isn’t a pregnant woman’s blood dangerous to men? It causes a 50% increase of death when it comes to blood transfusions. There’s something specific in a pregnant woman’s blood that helps her harbor a fetus for 9 months, but that same very thing has a pretty good chance of killing a man. If a troon somehow got pregnant, would he not die? Not that he can produce any ova... but I wouldn’t put it past some hack doctor to put an inseminated egg into his suffocating uterus for the ✨validation✨.

I mean, if pregnancy doesn’t kill him, a birth might. Ugh, they already have such a painfully hard time with dilators, I can’t imagine the sheer pain that would come with birthing a child through a literal wound, Not that I believe it would ever be possible, but the thought made me flinch enough.
 
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Uterus transplant??
Theres not enough room in the male pelvis to hold a uterus. Would that shit not get squashed? I’m pretty sure it would end up prolapsing with all it just scrunching up in there.
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Also, isn’t a pregnant woman’s blood dangerous to men? It causes a 50% increase of death when it comes to blood transfusions. There’s something specific in a pregnant woman’s blood that helps her harbor a fetus for 9 months, but that same very thing has a pretty good chance of killing a man. If a troon somehow got pregnant, would he not die? Not that he can produce any ova... but I wouldn’t put it past some hack doctor to put an inseminated egg into his suffocating uterus for the ✨validation✨.

I mean, if pregnancy doesn’t kill him, a birth might. Ugh, they already have such a painfully hard time with dilators, I can’t imagine the sheer pain that would come with birthing a child through a literal wound, Not that I believe it would ever be possible, but the thought made me flinch enough.
Funny how they’re all concerned with depth, but not width, eh?

Anyways, it doesn’t matter. Not so much because it’s a medical impossibility, more because of the fact that if one of those pregnancy-fetish troons ever managed to get his donated uterus inseminated, he would without a doubt literally fap himself to death.

“Sorry, we rushed hi-eh-her to the hospital as fast as possible, but the dehydration and fluid loss was just too great.”
 
It's of course possible that the tranny who was promised a womb transplant in Brazil was, in fact, lured in by the organ mafia and now spends his days inside several people in an assortment of countries.
>Implying the fucked hormonal balance hasn't robbed his organs of any worth.
Uterus transplant??
Theres not enough room in the male pelvis to hold a uterus. Would that shit not get squashed? I’m pretty sure it would end up prolapsing with all it just scrunching up in there.
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Also, isn’t a pregnant woman’s blood dangerous to men? It causes a 50% increase of death when it comes to blood transfusions. There’s something specific in a pregnant woman’s blood that helps her harbor a fetus for 9 months, but that same very thing has a pretty good chance of killing a man. If a troon somehow got pregnant, would he not die? Not that he can produce any ova... but I wouldn’t put it past some hack doctor to put an inseminated egg into his suffocating uterus for the ✨validation✨.

I mean, if pregnancy doesn’t kill him, a birth might. Ugh, they already have such a painfully hard time with dilators, I can’t imagine the sheer pain that would come with birthing a child through a literal wound, Not that I believe it would ever be possible, but the thought made me flinch enough.
Hypothetically, if by Satan's miracle a baby would be carried til birth in that thing, its head would get stuck in his pelvis and cause a catastrophic death by hemorrhage for both fetishist and child.
.... Does fetishizing carrying a child in you as a man count as pedophilia? Because it should.
 
Hey! Medical school ain’t cheap!

And there’s also the whole Mengele-aspect to it.

Why did Doctors perform medical experiments at KZ camps?

Because they had an opportunity to do experiments that otherwise would never have been allowed (some of it actually important research that is used today, but that’s another story entirely.)

Among surgeons there is a minority that you could say have a certain god complex.

Inverting a penis and constructing a “vagina”, attaching a “penis” where one was never meant to be and the “plumbing” is all wrong...

This Mengele-“playing god”-nature of troon operations is appealing to these types of surgeons.

And to top it off, this is nothing they teach in medical school. Most surgeons get to experiment and invent their own “technique” which is why you see so much discussion among troons whether “vaginas” by doctor X are better than the ones by doctor Y.


WTF does a troon want with a uterus anyways?!?

I know some of them are absolutely delusional and think that “hurr-durr in a decade transwomen will be able to get pregnant!” But that’ll never fucking happen.

So what’s the purpose? Just to say you have it? It sounds like a medical disaster just waiting to happen!
why?
because its the pinnacle of maidens, to be able to have a uterus and bear a child,
so troon wants a uterus too, bc he will then be the ultimate waman.
same with their obsession about having periods
 
Can someone speak to why the texture of phallo graft donor sites looks like grill marks from a metal patio table? I'm assuming it's to do with the flaying equipment or technique, but I have to wonder if there's medical intention (e.g., long-term healing) for it. Because it's kind of worse than a smooth patch would look.

And why no skin grafts on the donor site after? My bad if I missed it being addressed earlier; this thread has been a lot to take in over several days. The entire gender cult and their movement is batshit awful and so deeply toxic.
 
Can someone speak to why the texture of phallo graft donor sites looks like grill marks from a metal patio table? I'm assuming it's to do with the flaying equipment or technique, but I have to wonder if there's medical intention (e.g., long-term healing) for it. Because it's kind of worse than a smooth patch would look.

And why no skin grafts on the donor site after? My bad if I missed it being addressed earlier; this thread has been a lot to take in over several days. The entire gender cult and their movement is batshit awful and so deeply toxic.
I believe the netting-style graft is used in normal skin grafts, and I presume it's to stretch less skin over more space and have it heal the holes into more skin, since the body doesn't really like being y'know, skinned. EDIT: Here's what I picked up from some medical journal about split-thickness skin grafts:
Graft Take: The thicker a skin graft, the more metabolically active it is, and the worse is it's nutrient diffusion. FTSGs and thick STSG's require more robust recipient wound beds than thin STSGs. Thick grafts should be avoided in unhealthy wound beds such as chronic ulcers.
Contracture: All skin grafts undergo primary and secondary contractures. Primary contracture is the immediate reduction in the size of skin graft after it has been harvested, caused by passive recoil of elastin fibers in the dermis. As FTSGs have a greater amount of dermis, primary contracture is more significant in FTSG than STSG. Secondary contracture is the shrinkage of the skin graft in the wound bed over time, caused by myofibroblasts. Secondary contracture is greater for STSGs than FTSGs, as the additional dermis in FTSGs is resistant to the pull of myofibroblasts. Clinically, STSG placement should not be in aesthetically sensitive areas that could become deformed with contractures such as around the eyelids, face, and mouth.
Donor Site Morbidity: The multipotent stem cells responsible for STSG donor site reepithelialization primarily reside in the hair follicles. By preserving portions of the dermis and thereby hair follicles, STSG donor sites regrow new skin and are reusable. Thin STSGs have the least donor site morbidity and regrow new skin the fastest. Full-thickness skin grafts involve excision of the entire thickness of skin, and thus adnexal structures, necessitating primary closure.
Aesthetic Match: Skin grafts should ideally match the recipient bed in color, texture, and overall appearance. Full-thickness skin grafts commonly provide an appropriate color match, whereas STSGs are more likely to be hypo/hyperpigmented. Additionally, the meshing of STSGs significantly alters the aesthetics of STSGs.
Durability: As the dermis provides strength and viscoelastic properties to the skin, the consideration of dermal thickness is essential for each specific wound. For example, thick STSGs or FTSG are common choices to cover mechanically demanding areas of the body, including the palms, soles, and joints, whereas thin STSGs do not withstand such forces as well.[3]
 
You're thinking of Jessica Alves. Here are some photos, by the way, from the Mirror article (Archive) about this STUNNING and BRAVE "woman" who is on her(his) quest to get proper woman-like baby making organs, I'm sure you're completely surprised at how well she(he) passes.
Totally not a fetish.
 
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