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Whenever I hear a "both sides" argument it's usually preceded by a laundry list of insanity from the left, the realization that things were better before (this is called 'conservatism'), and then a token example of how the right isn't quite perfect.
You really want me to get into a pointless flame war about how, at least in the USA, the right is the posterchild for sexism, classism, racism, and homophobia?

I mean, the left is also sexist, classist, racist, and homophobic while hypocritically claiming it isn’t, but that doesn’t mean the right “isn’t quite perfect” by comparison.

Both sides suck more or less equally. It’s just that the left has disproportionate control of the mainstream media and can therefore shove more far-left partisanship into their media at the cost of quality. If the right got the control, then everything would be PureFlix.
 
You really want me to get into a pointless flame war about how, at least in the USA, the right is the posterchild for sexism, classism, racism, and homophobia?
I guess I would only ask then why you're on a site where everyone calls each other fucking faggots?

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You really want me to get into a pointless flame war about how, at least in the USA, the right is the posterchild for sexism, classism, racism, and homophobia?

I mean, the left is also sexist, classist, racist, and homophobic while hypocritically claiming it isn’t, but that doesn’t mean the right “isn’t quite perfect” by comparison.

Both sides suck more or less equally. It’s just that the left has disproportionate control of the mainstream media and can therefore shove more far-left partisanship into their media at the cost of quality. If the right got the control, then everything would be PureFlix.
Do you ever wonder if people fucking lied to you about how the right is the poster child for sexism, classism, etc, etc?

Especially since, as you admit, the left has disproportionate control of the media?

Let me set an experiment before you. Go chase down the infamous Access Hollywood clip of Trump and his 'grab 'em by the pussy' comment. Watch the whole thing.

Then contrast that with what the media was saying.
 
Ditto. Also, the forum software seems to bar me from quoting those who click “disagree” on my posts.
It's not that specific - it's a general glitch from the last 24 hours that affects random comments.

I was writing a long reply to your points, but in gaming, I don't know what the real 'right wing' stuff is. If you're talking political stuff not in-game, sure - but it's RPG.net which is insistent that there's a long list of topics that can't be mentioned because they're just too offensive, a list that you can never get off once you're on it and only grows by the day. I've played lots of games and I don't know what would be considered their right-wing agenda, but the games I've played with a left-wing agenda have worn them very loudly on their sleeve, usually in forced acceptance of genderspecials both in and out of game and attempts to be so welcoming and conflict-averse that everything gets watered down on the off-chance anyone, anywhere could take offence, and rules are put in place to let the people with the thinnest skin define what everyone else can do.

So how does right-wing stuff manifest in roleplaying specifically? Because otherwise you're just complaining about the political leanings of forums in general, rather than about how RPG.net in particular deals with it.
 
Whenever I hear a "both sides" argument it's usually preceded by a laundry list of insanity from the left, the realization that things were better before (this is called 'conservatism'), and then a token example of how the right isn't quite perfect.
Odd, most defenses of 'conservatism' boils down to shitting on the left to the point you won't notice the right has been a hollowed out joke for decades.
 
It's not that specific - it's a general glitch from the last 24 hours that affects random comments.

I was writing a long reply to your points, but in gaming, I don't know what the real 'right wing' stuff is. If you're talking political stuff not in-game, sure - but it's RPG.net which is insistent that there's a long list of topics that can't be mentioned because they're just too offensive, a list that you can never get off once you're on it and only grows by the day. I've played lots of games and I don't know what would be considered their right-wing agenda, but the games I've played with a left-wing agenda have worn them very loudly on their sleeve, usually in forced acceptance of genderspecials both in and out of game and attempts to be so welcoming and conflict-averse that everything gets watered down on the off-chance anyone, anywhere could take offence, and rules are put in place to let the people with the thinnest skin define what everyone else can do.

So how does right-wing stuff manifest in roleplaying specifically? Because otherwise you're just complaining about the political leanings of forums in general, rather than about how RPG.net in particular deals with it.
Good question. In my experience, right-wing and right-adjacent authors (at least by the USA standards) claim they prefer to avoid putting overtly "political" messages in their work. (I put political in quotes because what they actually mean is that they don't put overtly partisan messages in their work.) I'm sure there are exceptions, of course, but I don't seek them out.

You can argue that any RPG where the PCs fight to preserve the status quo is right-wing, like Blue Rose, but most people don't seem to qualify it as such.

You can argue that any military scifi RPG is right-wing, but that's probably more to do with the fact that people who like military scifi are mostly right-wing rather than because the text actively injects right-wing messages. (E.g. Extreme Meatpunks Forever is insanely left-wing, but also militaristic in the extreme.)

You can argue that any explicitly Christian RPG is right-wing, like DragonRaid, but again I'd chalk that up to the left hating on Christianity.

Okay, I'm drawing a blank otherwise. Can you name any RPGs where the PCs are expected to deregulate the market, prevent immigration, criminalize abortion, remove welfare benefits, pour obscene amounts of money into the military-industrial complex, or criticizes the justice system as being too lenient on criminals? Or can be summarized as "the right-wing counterpart of Otherverse America"?

Because when I think "right-wing RPG," I'm imagining a setting that assumes all right-wing policies have been enacted to their most extreme degrees, presents this as a wonderful utopia, demonizes leftists as simultaneous bleeding hearts and baby-murdering psychos, ignores the contradictions between the beliefs of different special interest groups in the right-wing bloc, and handwaves away all the bad things that would happen as a result. If you thought Ayn Rand's utopia was unrealistic, then this would be so much worse.

Aside from that, the most remotely right-leaning stuff I can think of is out-of-game complaining about Wizards of the Coast tweaking drow, orcs, vistani, and mongrelfolk. Btw, I think what WotC does is just changing window dressing, because otherwise D&D is still a violent slaughter simulator where the only way to advance is to kill and loot everything in your path.
 
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WotC has done more than window dressing. By their own admission they are addressing "racist stereotypes" by tacitly admitting black people are Orcs, etc. I suppose you can label criticism of this as "right leaning", but that would be curious. Especially in a thread where we document the antics of an RPG focused message board and 100% of the craziness (not 99%, not 99.9%.... 100%) is related to Leftist, Socjus nonsense.


 
RaHoWa would certainly qualify as a partisan right-wing RPG: https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Racial_Holy_War

Except that it doesn't actually work as an RPG (there are no rules to actually resolve attacks in combat), and the sub-human races are actually superior to our Aryan master-race PCs as they actually gain racial features.
 
I mean, there’s this golden oldie…
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They didn’t price it at $17.76… they had ONE JOB!
Look at how progressive that shit was. Brother in a suit with an M-16.

I kind of remember this game but never picked it up. A bit of a shock considering how much we loved Red Dawn.
 
@FreedomMussel

WotC has done more than window dressing. By their own admission they are addressing "racist stereotypes" by tacitly admitting black people are Orcs, etc. I suppose you can label criticism of this as "right leaning", but that would be curious. Especially in a thread where we document the antics of an RPG focused message board and 100% of the craziness (not 99%, not 99.9%.... 100%) is related to Leftist, Socjus nonsense.


I did say "remotely." Nowadays anything that isn't far-left is right-wing. Claiming that orcs are based on or resemble black people is both wrong and racist. I've done the research. That said, the language used in Volo's Guide is extremely contemptuous and dehumanizing (I know orcs aren't technically human but you get my point). If WotC is going in the direction of making orcs a viable PC race with a variety of moralities, and generally trying to cultivate a sanitized family-friendly image, then it makes sense not to use such language.

That said, I don't think evil races are inherently bad. I actually prefer going the whole hog and making orcs (or what have you) into demons that possess corpses. The author describes them as "They are demonic entities with "oily and dark skin", created by Orcus, and exist only to slaughter and destroy. They don't have a culture, as they don't possess the capacity for complete human thought: why would Orcus bestow that upon them, even if he were capable of doing so?" So metal!
 
Correct me if I am wrong but West End Games are where Paranoia originated from? As such I can't help but wonder if this example has its tongue firmly in its cheek.
I think it was straight up. I remember that time, cold war tension was fairly real until the later 80's. This sort of thing definitely tapped into it. Plus it was riding the pop culture coattails of Red Dawn, Top Gun, etc. Unfortunately for them (fortunately for the world) it came out just as the cold war started to thaw.
 
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