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Hopefully not, but I doubt that'll turn anything around.

That'll just serve as proof that everyone needs to get quadruple vaccinated because de la Hoya is a world class athlete and if it can happen to him, then normies don't stand a chance until quintuple vaccinated while wearing several layers of 3M 1860.

I am wondering if the Vaccine killed him...if indeed he is dead. He doesn't fit the profile of being at risk for Covid in anyway.

He is also a great guy in real life. I watched him buy like 6 houses for poor people after a fight in 2015.

He loves charity. Hope he makes it and this isn't true. A fine American of mexican descent who has had ups and downs in life and should be an example for many.
 
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https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/d...e-in-tubing-accident/ar-AAO4HbP?ocid=msedgntp
The Biden administration has released its plan for combating the next pandemic, warning that a future pandemic could be even worse than COVID-19.

In a call with reporters, White House officials described an Apollo-like mission to coordinate all aspects of pandemic response in a centralized command. The administration's plan, which also addresses other biological threats, has several components: creating medical defenses (such as rapid production of vaccines, therapeutics and diagnostics); establishing early warning systems and real-time monitoring; modernizing public health infrastructure at home and abroad; improving supply chains, personal protective equipment availability and stockpiles; and establishing a pandemic mission control office.

The plan would cost $65 billion over the next seven to 10 years, with $15 billion coming from the Democrats' $3.5 trillion reconciliation bill being considered on Capitol Hill. More funding would be needed for the additional $50 billion.

The pandemic preparedness plan warns that "there will be an increasing frequency of natural — and possibly human-made — biological threats in the years ahead."

"As devastating as the COVID-19 pandemic is, there is a reasonable likelihood that another serious pandemic that may be worse than COVID-19 will occur soon — possibly within the next decade," the report says. "Unless we make transformative investments in pandemic preparedness now, we will not be meaningfully prepared."

The report draws on the Obama-era pandemic preparedness plan. Office of Science and Technology Policy Director Eric Lander said the unified office will coordinate all aspects of the pandemic response — vaccines, therapeutics, diagnostics, grants, personal protective equipment, modeling and more. Lander said it hasn't yet been decided from which department "mission control" would work.

"If you've got a great booster rocket but haven't got a capsule capable of landing ... it's not going to work," Lander said.


 

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The source for overflowing hospitals is and has always been My Friend The Healthcare Worker, cousin to My Cousin's Girlfriend's Sister's Aunt's Husband Who Died At 21 From Covid Because It's Very Deadly.

Not actual stats.
City hospitals have always been overflowing. Look at any "Saint" hospital in the inner city on a Friday or Sat night. They always run high 90's-100 percent full.
 
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I have a question about the virus in general

what cause some people to only have like upper respiratory symptoms I.e a head cold

some people get stomach symptoms only

some people get the shortness of breath and die.
What causes the difference in symptoms? Age, gender, blood types ????
I’m curious why there is such a wide range compared to a typical “cold”
 
The freeway near me has a bunch of billboards and one is a 'wear a mask' public safety announcement. I wish I had a picture but someone went HARD on it last night with black spraypaint. I'm in a fairly blue area and it's nice to see that even here there's getting to be some pushback.
There's a few of 'em around the city I live too. I've wished that someone would eventually start tagging them with anti-CDC or anti-Fauci spraypaints, but most are not so easily reachable unless you don't fear heights or can handle some parkour. But the day I see any of them get tagged, I'm gonna have a hearty belly laugh.
 
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I have a question about the virus in general

what cause some people to only have like upper respiratory symptoms I.e a head cold

some people get stomach symptoms only

some people get the shortness of breath and die.
What causes the difference in symptoms? Age, gender, blood types ????
I’m curious why there is such a wide range compared to a typical “cold”

Totally Viral exposure as has been documented with any virus.

If a person only inhales one virus particle its difficult for the virus to out replicate the immune system response because less virus propagate and maybe only a few hundred cells are effected.

If a person inhales thousands of particles well the outcome is much more severe obviously because then a million cells maybe effected.

This rule is the same as any other virus except HIV which just 1 is enough. My guess with the digestive system type is people who picked it up from surfaces and consumed it in someway and it landed up in the stomach.


This is what the CDC is saying anyway.
 
I have a question about the virus in general

what cause some people to only have like upper respiratory symptoms I.e a head cold

some people get stomach symptoms only

some people get the shortness of breath and die.
What causes the difference in symptoms? Age, gender, blood types ????
I’m curious why there is such a wide range compared to a typical “cold”
We now know that COVID-19 triggers an auto immune response wherever it settles, and it causes a large amount of inflammation, so it's pretty much coming down whatever is the weakest area it gets to first. Because it's airborne it does often affect the lungs, but people also have lots of variances in their individual health and genetics.

To give a blunt example, think of conditions like ulcers, or asthma, which weaken the respective organs. Most people tend to have some area of their body that is particularly weak or more susceptible in some way, as they get older. Fat people have awful heart and lung health, and inflammation in their whole body due to excessive fat. I read of cases of people with severe pre-existing health issues that basically get COVID-19 symptoms in their whole body.

And some people just have a very shitty immune system from not working out and only eating junk food. Remember 80% of severe cases are in overweight people.
 
Want to have some eye rolls?

Give a read on the TV tropes page on Covid


They keep talking like its the worst thing in recent history...suddenly everyone is a historian documentating a tragedy.

Hey, idiots, your site is to talk about tropes on nerd shit, not talk about recent events as if you are an actual historical record.

I swear, people love to pretend this is more than it actually is. "people died!" yeah, well, wake up, its the real world, people die by the butt load per day and yet you dont panic. You know why? Because you were taught to not panic and accept these things for what they were. But you are told to panic by media and you obey because thinking for yourself is scary.

Go fuck yourself

Thats not a "go fuck yourself"

THIS is a "go fuck yourself"

 
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They keep talking like its the worst thing in recent history...suddenly everyone is a historian documentating a tragedy.
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These are all links to YouTube videos complaining about COVID-19. Do the autists that write these articles expect people to actually sit through 3 hours of people complaining?
 
12-15 year olds will get the vaccine in the UK 'as early as next week' (https://archive.is/wip/XiePy), this morning the Medicine and Health Regulation supported it, (posted earlier) but now the Joint Committee on Vaccines and Immunisation are opposing it. This opposition is trending on twitter and theres a lot of shite about 'clinical trail data showing how it has no benefit for them and how this only applies to 12-15 year olds please dont think too hard about why we wont give it all of a sudden'. (https://archive.is/rmLRr) Be interesting to see if vax plans will go through now backbench Tories are unimpressed with the continuation of covid emergency powers. Gov infighting is standard. Speaking of fighting - protests in London of 'anti-vax' trying to storm MHRA building and getting into scraps with police (https://archive.is/wip/LNceP) and the government is in dispute with several companies over 1.2 billion pounds of PPE. Vaccine passports being considered for football matches, concerts and more (https://archive.is/vSjta). Feels like a lot is happening, and none of it good : /. Anyone else having issues with inserting links? Added them in plain text just in case.
 
Hit the road, Jack!


Top loyalists to Donald Trump, who frequently push lies about election fraud, have joined forces with conservative doctors touting unproven Covid curesand vaccine skepticism, and like-minded evangelical ministers at a series of events across the US this summer.


The conservative “ReAwaken America” tour – featuring ex-general Michael Flynn and top Donald Trump loyalist donors – has held events in Florida, Michigan and other states.
It underscores how Trump’s allies, anti-vaccine doctors and conservative preachers are amplifying baseless claims that are hurting the nation’s public health and its democracy with potentially far-reaching impacts, say pandemic and election experts.

The tour comes as Covid cases soar and as Republican drives to pass state laws weakening voting rights increase. While the tour has touted Flynn’s key role, a Tulsa Oklahoma media figure and Christian entrepreneur named Clay Clark has been instrumental in orchestrating the gatherings – also dubbed “health and freedom” conferences – using his “ThriveTime” podcast and radio show and Charisma News coverage.

The ReAwaken events have featured talks by vaccine skeptics such as Simone Gold, who was charged for taking part in the Capitol riot and leads America’s Frontline Doctors, a rightist group that garnered attention for touting dubious Covid-19 cures such as ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine.

Stella Immanuel, a Houston doctor who is part of Gold’s group and who spoke at a Michigan ReAwaken rally on 20 August, gained notoriety last year for public remarks at a Washington rally near the supreme court, suggesting America’s health problems were linked to alien DNA and sperm from demons.

Another doctor listed as a speaker at the rallies is Scott Jensen, a former state senator and Fox News favorite who is running for governor in Minnesota. Last year, Jensen was a candidate for Politifact’s “lie of the year” for claiming baselessly that doctors were overcounting Covid cases for their own financial gain.

Further, the conservative tour has provided new audiences for rich Trump donors such as Mike Lindell, the chief executive of MyPillow, who has stated falsely that Trump would be reinstalled as president by 13 August, and Patrick Byrne, the former chief of Overstock, who bankrolled with millions of dollars a spurious “audit” in Arizona’s largest county that has drawn bipartisan fire for lacking merit.

The ReAwaken meetings, which each appear to have drawn audiences in the hundreds or more, have also taken place this year in Oklahoma and California, with more slated for Colorado and Texas in coming months. Promotional materials indicate that attendees are asked to pay $250 for general admission or $500 for VIP tickets, with pastors eligible for half-price tickets.

Voting rights lawyers and pandemic experts are troubled by the volume of election and pandemic disinformation that the ReAwaken tour seems to be spreading.

“Many Americans believe the 2020 election was stolen, despite numerous failed court cases alleging it and recounts that verified the results,” said Gerry Hebert, who spent over two decades as a senior lawyer at the justice department handling voting rights.

Hebert added: “People have refused to wear masks and get vaccinated because of Covid disinformation campaigns. Lies and disinformation campaigns can kill, both our fellow Americans and our democracy, and this ReAwaken America tour seems designed to accentuate these problems.”

Similarly, Covid experts say that the ReAwaken America tour is exacerbating medical disinformation.

“These events are stark reminders of how Trump was elected in 2016 and remains popular to this day, with many now vying to assume his mantle in campaigning for elected office at all levels of governments,” said Irwin Redlener, who leads Columbia University’s Pandemic Resource and Recovery Initiative.

“I’m actually embarrassed by the fact that there are doctors fully into this craziness.”

Flynn, who was pardoned by Trump late last year after twice pleading guilty to lying to the FBI about his contacts with the Russian ambassador in the federal investigation into Kremlin meddling in the 2016 elections, has become a fixture at conspiracy-heavy gatherings this year, including one in Texas in May that was backed by QAnon advocates who have falsely claimed Trump will become president again this year.

Other Trump loyalists have popped up at the ReAwaken events, including Roger Stone, a longtime Trump adviser who also was pardoned by Trump after he was convicted of lying to Congress and other felonies as part of the federal inquiry into Russian meddling in the 2016 elections, and Charlie Kirk who runs the pro-Trump youth group Turning Point USA.

Anne Nelson, the author of Shadow Network, a book about the rightwing Council for National Policy, which boasts some key evangelicals, said Clark’s ReAwaken tour has echoes of earlier “religious political entrepreneurs” but said Clark “has modernized their techniques with religious rallies and media platforms promoting Trump surrogates like Michael Flynn and medical misinformation peddlers like Simone Gold, to build momentum for the radical right, leading up to next year’s midterms and 2024.”

The ReAwaken gatherings have dovetailed with more drives by conservative doctors and Trump loyalists spreading pandemic and election disinformation.

For instance, Gold’s America’s Frontline Doctors, which was formed with the help of Tea Party Patriots early last year, filed a motion this July aimed at the health department seeking to halt vaccinations. The motion contained some widely debunked assertions about Covid-19.

The discredited claims included that CDC data reveals that the two-shot Pfizer and Moderna vaccines and the single-shot Johnson & Johnson vaccine are “not effective in treating or preventing” Covid-19, and that the pandemic is not a public health emergency.

Further, Gold’s group announced in May that it was launching a national RV “Uncensored Truth Tour” with an initial focus on several states including Arizona, Texas and Florida.

Critics see the RV tour as another vehicle for Gold to spread disinformation, as in her comments in Washington at a rally the day before the Capitol attack, when she labeled FDA approved vaccines “an experimental biological agent deceptively named a vaccine” and urged people to avoid being “coerced”.

More broadly, Redlener is dismayed by the abundance of disinformation at the ReAwaken America rallies, and via similar avenues. “The increasingly flagrant promotion of anti- science ignorance and bizarre political extremism is worrisome,” he said.
 
Hearing Oscar de la Hoya is dead tonight...tho not confirmed.

He was fully vaccinated and his last status update was on a ventilator. As an avid boxing watch and occasional gambler, the guy was in great shape and only 48.

I wonder if this is a turning point?
Did he get the booster? No? Then he wasn’t vaccinated. Yet another W for the vaccines
 
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