Plagued COVID Conspiracy Theorists and other idiots - This is not a political thunderdome or gay slapfight thread.

[DemonicMustache]

There are certain Evangelical Christian sects that absolutely don't believe in medical care.

 

[Stardust]

The forum is acting up, so I cannot quote.

@Leafy Path, you're right. I see it enough, so many bad asses until they get sick. The Covid conspiracists on Facebook do this, act tough until they sneeze, suddenly all the anti-vaxx memes turn into 'Pray For Me' pandering.

@Stilgar of Troon, my state is home to Mitch McConnell, who wields influence in Republican politics. His "betraying" Trump lit ignorant fires under the extreme's asses, as his sway was not used to push for Trump's re-election. There is this 'gotta be twice as retarded to make up for the betrayal' mentality among enough of these protestors here, to prove they are TRUE and HONEST patriots who are superior Republicans.

@Hollywood Hulk Hogan, social media conspiracists are like Vince Russo. Oh, my being retarded didn't work? I'll try again, only more retarded! Like the old saying goes, "If at first you don't WCW, TNA, TNA again."

@John Merston, unfortunately. Though the anti-medicine crowd, as of typing this, appear to be outliers. If they do insist on being birds about it, they'd make the Dodo proud.

@Bunny Tracks, frustratingly, that makes medical staff's jobs harder, as well as taking up space and resources. It must be difficult saving the foolish, knowing most will go back to their ways after recovery.

 

[Stilgar of Troon]

@Stilgar of Troon, my state is home to Mitch McConnell, who wields influence in Republican politics. His "betraying" Trump lit ignorant fires under the extreme's asses, as his sway was not used to push for Trump's re-election. There is this 'gotta be twice as retarded to make up for the betrayal' mentality among enough of these protestors here, to prove they are TRUE and HONEST patriots who are superior Republicans.

My sympathies; living amongst nutjobs like that must be very trying, I imagine. I can't fathom that mentality at all, completely alien.

 

[TaimuRadiu]

They clog up the ED anyway. Wow, who knew you would shit yourself on ivermectin. Must be a medical emergency.

I'm talking to my colleagues at the hospital I used to work at and they get at least one per day who needs to be admitted because of the whole seizure thing. Can't resist that apple flavor.

To be fair, Ivermectin gives you super strength and turns you into a reverse centaur.

 

[AnOminous]

Poison control calls and people in the ER with covid who’ve taken Ivermectin are up. Not for ivermectin overdoses, yet.

I think it just makes you sick as a dog but won't kill you unless you do something insanely dumb like eat enough for eight horses. Also there are human versions of it you could probably get easily enough online that are actually 'proper' doses if you insist on a treatment as "experimental" as the "experimental vaccine" that has been used without major incident over 5 billion times now.

 

[proteus4994]

I think it just makes you sick as a dog but won't kill you unless you do something insanely dumb like eat enough for eight horses. Also there are human versions of it you could probably get easily enough online that are actually 'proper' doses if you insist on a treatment as "experimental" as the "experimental vaccine" that has been used without major incident over 5 billion times now.

This reminds me of boomers that still insist DEET is dangerous despite 8 trillion applications worldwide since 1950

 

[Fwiffo]

Chemically castrating yourself to own the libs

 

[AnOminous]

Chemically castrating yourself to own the libs

They're putting stuff in the horse-dewormer and it's making the retards gay!

 

[Nauseated Courgi]

Chemically castrating yourself to own the libs

Alright, this is getting hilariously ridiculous. They can't honestly think that this is worth dodging the vaccine.

 

[behindyourightnow]

As much as I joked about the subject in my previous post, there does appear to be an anti-medicine wing forming within the anti-vaxxers. Will it get nationally large? Who knows; it is causing issues in my state though:

A relative of mine stopped using her blood pressure medication, that has been taken for years with no problem, because they believe it was killing them like "the vax" will. A family friend stopped taking her anti-depression medication, which has resulted in an alcohol relapse that has become their coping instead, because all doctors are "lying communists".

Darwin must be somersaulting in his grave, right now, due to this undeniable proof for his theory.

As someone else said, it's extended to a general hatred and mistrust of anyone who even reminds them of an expert, or that experts might exist somewhere.

Great example: look at this guy who went off at me in another thread after I said that a greentext image about people who hate anime secretly being pedophiles (no kidding, that was literally what it was about) was bullshit:



Like all kiwifarmers, I am fat on the inside, so he wasn't wrong there, but it was crazy how contradicting the assertions in a deeply stupid piece of writing by a 4chan weeb was enough to trigger his first of all how dare you response.

I know that those "ummm actually the science says otherwise" I Fucking Love Science types are annoying, but I don't understand how you jump from that to deciding that all collected human knowledge is a lie, and that you will only trust random anonymous internet morons (and anyone who positions themselves as an anti-expert) instead. The I Fucking Love Science people aren't going to be owned by you dying early, or constantly falling for scams because you're now an easy target for any grifter who knows how to push your buttons. They aren't even going to notice.

 

[eternal dog mongler]

"kay sweaty" means that's certainly a /r/stupidpol poster

It's what happens when you realize Redditors are morons and then base your entire worldview on supporting things Redditors don't like without realizing that hypercontrarianism is just as intellectually bankrupt as blindly supporting what's popular. Oh well.

 

[Gaussiana]

@FFinfo

I have no idea why people are trying to disagree with actual fact via negrating that post when doctors in the US were literally caught getting kickbacks for opioids and something like 3/4 of American men were handed over to a doctor who, being a trained medical professional, knew circumcision was globally recognized as an deleterious medical procedure without clinical merit and did it anyway for the money, with no objection to the parents (or attempting to convince them). Or the doctors that advocate and/or participate in child transition therapies, or sex confirmation surgeries in general.

It's more of a not wanting to throw the baby out with the bathwater thing. "Some doctors have done/do questionable things, therefore medicine is a lie" doesn't follow. Plus, the US is not the entire world, one of the most negative effects I see from the US healthcare system is this kind of overt for-profit existence of hospitals and clinics. As much as "Trump's vaccines" has become a meme, everything that went into the development of the major Covid vaccines has been an international scientific effort.

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

Plus, it would take a vast world-wide conspiracy by every doctor and scientist in the world, which isn't going to happen.

Anti-vaxers are really, really bad at logic and critical thinking

 

[TaimuRadiu]

I think it just makes you sick as a dog but won't kill you unless you do something insanely dumb like eat enough for eight horses. Also there are human versions of it you could probably get easily enough online that are actually 'proper' doses if you insist on a treatment as "experimental" as the "experimental vaccine" that has been used without major incident over 5 billion times now.

My father had a heart attack immediately after getting his first shot, so I wouldn't say it's "without major incident".

Plus there's all the cases of people who died after getting the shot, to the extent that Japan has banned the Moderna vaccine.

 

[FFinfo]

@Gaussiana My position isn't that it's a worldwide conspiracy; I just posited that a more reasonable conspiracy than a global malicious conspiracy was a much more understandable global complacency because there's money to be made. Whether or not that's the case is separate from the fact that there is, domestically and abroad, precedent set that yes, doctors, even across multiple countries, will do the same questionable things for money. You can accept the latter without extrapolating it to mean COVID is a global conspiracy: My point was that people who think it's a conspiracy for the simply notion that there's money to be made have more of a leg to stand on than people thinking it's a depopulation effort or what have you.

 

[Emo Supremo]

@Gaussiana My position isn't that it's a worldwide conspiracy; I just posited that a more reasonable conspiracy than a global malicious conspiracy was a much more understandable global complacency because there's money to be made. Whether or not that's the case is separate from the fact that there is, domestically and abroad, precedent set that yes, doctors, even across multiple countries, will do the same questionable things for money. You can accept the latter without extrapolating it to mean COVID is a global conspiracy: My point was that people who think it's a conspiracy for the simply notion that there's money to be made have more of a leg to stand on than people thinking it's a depopulation effort or what have you.

now that you've clarified yourself i see what you mean, and yeah it is more plausible and less schizophrenic than the other leading theories flying around right now. do i agree with it? not necessarily since the global economy is still at a constipated crawl, vaccines are being given out for free, and elective procedures are back to being put on hold in most places. but it has some actual basis in reality compared to muh magnetization or muh nanobot injections.

 

[AnOminous]

My father had a heart attack immediately after getting his first shot, so I wouldn't say it's "without major incident".

Plus there's all the cases of people who died after getting the shot, to the extent that Japan has banned the Moderna vaccine.

It doesn't make you immortal. You can still get hit by a car or have a heart attack.

 

[Techpriest]

My father had a heart attack immediately after getting his first shot, so I wouldn't say it's "without major incident".

Plus there's all the cases of people who died after getting the shot, to the extent that Japan has banned the Moderna vaccine.

The Moderna vaccine shipment that Japan got had contamination issues related to the rubber stoppers, which fragmented into the liquid. Not good.

Also, lots of vaccinations can result in people having heart attacks. It’s a very, very low risk, and why they ask you to stay after each shot, just in case you are that rare person that has an adverse reaction.

 

[Hollywood Hulk Hogan]

My father had a heart attack immediately after getting his first shot, so I wouldn't say it's "without major incident".

Yeah, how do you know it's from the vaccine? And even if it was, a 1 in a million chance at an adverse reaction is still far less chances of something bad from covid.

Plus there's all the cases of people who died after getting the shot, to the extent that Japan has banned the Moderna vaccine.

Citation needed

 

[Techpriest]

We’re about to see a shitstorm here. New federal requirements for vaccines for workers. Are you ready for the whining?