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Hubbard got what he wanted at least, since the Church of Scientology was just a vehicle for tax evasion. Better than living on a boat in international waters.

It's funny reading the leaked Scientology documents if you're familiar with western occult stuff. Literally just a sci-fi pastiche on New Thought -> deep western occult -> surprise it's Anton Wilson! as you go through the levels. If I had a hell of a lot of time on my hands I'd go through them and draw parallels to show where Hubbard was sourcing from but oh well. Maybe when I retire.
 
since the Church of Scientology was just a vehicle for tax evasion
Dianetics was a school of quack psychiatry that got in trouble for practising without a license.
Those charges went away when it was declared to be part of the religion of Scientology.
After all a priest in the confessional isn't a quack psychiatrist (at least not legally).

However, there is some evidence that Hubbard intended to make it a religion all along, but just got pushed into it a little before when planned.

As for tax "evasion" not in a legal sense, though I'd argue that all churches (even the nice ones) should pay taxes like any other corporation.
 
@NoReturn I actually completely agree with you on this one thanks to personal experience. Our family had a friend who got seriously into occultism and it ended up enveloping her whole life to the point that any intervention was pointless. Girl ended up addicted to cocaine and vanished off the face of the Earth. I imagine she's either dead or living on the streets by now.

I always found it amusing that neo-pagans/witches/etc constantly shit on things like Christianity for being destructive, yet can't see that actual occultism is doing far more damage.
 
NoReturn said:
Manifestation blurs the lines of what is and is not under your control, while simultaneously putting you into a psychological trap wherein anything bad that happens to you is something you brought upon yourself.
I live in a part of London where there are a lot of prosperity gospel preachers. I think I've pointed out that "name it and claim it" is basically manifesting with added Jesus, but I know people who listen to these preachers and it affects them in the same way.

Something bad happens? You clearly didn't give Pastor Money enough cash. Put £50 in the collection plate and try again next week!
Something good happens? Your "seed payment" to Pastor Money paid off! Quick, send him some more and you'll be able to get all the things you "claim"! Hallelujah Jesus!
I've heard about people who live on the breadline and still send money off to their "pastors" while they drive Rolls Royces everywhere, wear Rolexes and send ridiculous amounts back to their family in Nigeria every week. "Cult" is probably the best way of describing it.
 
Good god, fucking prosperity gospel made it across the pond? Sorry bud.

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I have a cousin who is out in Cali, and he went out as an aspiring actor. And like all aspiring actors, he now works selling pot. But we were chatting and our Aunt got sucked into some weird New Age cult out in Sedona, AZ a few years back. Anyway he goes off about he's way too clever for that shit, and she only fell for it cause she's a republican. He than tells me he almost got suckered into like 3 different cults out in LA. and then said his acting buddy eventually quit, reconverted to Catholicism and started a family, and then said the guy was a bitch for quitting.

It was surreal, and within a ten minute phone call, the next family gathering looks that much worse.

Also, I don't know why, but Sedona, AZ has so many fucking New Age/UFO cults over the years, it is goddamn unreal. Strange things happen in the desert I guess.
 
@Marshal Mannerheim
"Cult" is probably the best way of describing it.
Good god, fucking prosperity gospel made it across the pond? Sorry bud.
"God wants you to be rich!"
Good god, fucking prosperity gospel made it across the pond? Sorry bud.

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Also, I don't know why, but Sedona, AZ has so many fucking New Age/UFO cults over the years, it is goddamn unreal. Strange things happen in the desert I guess.
Supernatural explanation is something about "vortexes" and the magic of the desert.
More rational explanation: The desert is fucking weird, and if you aren't psychologically prepared for nature in general your brain tends to spaz out after living your whole life in not-nature. This allows the charlatans to take advantage of that awe you feel and they tell you it's something magical and they can guide you through it for a price.

Bonus content:
There's a lady who's sure all that glitters is gold
And she's buying a stairway to spiritual enlightenmeeeeeeeeeeeent~
 
@NoReturn
>"I have a witchy dark side!"
>Has a copy of Death Note on her table.

Literally tells me everything I need to know about her. She's one of those girls who was most likely an edgy emo in high school and never grew out of it. Gotta love how she refers to raw minerals as unoppressive. Yeah, honey, if you can afford to spend all this money on "witchy" stuff for your house you're not oppressed.
 
Good god, fucking prosperity gospel made it across the pond? Sorry bud.
It's always been a big thing in Nigeria. When Nigerians started coming over to the UK the more enterprising pastors over there set up churches over here.
Yes, a religion created in the 1960's that's based off misinterpreting one specific culture's mythology is the "true nature" of women.

"Californian schools encourage students to chant to the Aztec god of human sacrifice" isn't something I had on my 2021 bingo card, but here we go.
 
Because guys don't put period blood in their food

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I love that they say "return to our true nature".

What the shit is that? Looking to the word of Buzzfeed astrology for answers? Its a trend, and just like every other one of these stupid trends, it will die out, and then splutter to life again in a decade or so.
 
I know Christopher Lee is probably the coolest celebrity, but he wasn't actually that into the occult. There's a video where someone actually asked him about it and Lee mentioned having heard the rumors but he only had one or two books on the subject. In the same interview, he made a comment about how its a horrible idea and would ruin your soul if you could do it.

From what I gather, his religious views were Anglican Catholic, which I didn't know existed until I googled it.
Any actual wise occultist, especially an elite who can get into actual influential secret societies (as in actually secret and unknown to the pubic), is going to stay true to the word occult, as in secret.

It's advised that if you're into this sort of stuff, you keep it a secret for various reasons. One of the worst things you can do is blab that you did this or that ritual or spell, something these terminally online witches like to do.

But I've only read a few /x/ threads on the subject, so take my words with a grain of salt.
 
I love that they say "return to our true nature".

What the shit is that? Looking to the word of Buzzfeed astrology for answers? Its a trend, and just like every other one of these stupid trends, it will die out, and then splutter to life again in a decade or so.
The only way it makes sense to me is if someone has cultural or ancestral connections towards specific practices and they've developed an interest in explore that. In a way a person is "returning" to their roots which you could somewhat think of as "true nature" kind of.
 
"Californian schools encourage students to chant to the Aztec god of human sacrifice" isn't something I had on my 2021 bingo card, but here we go.

Tolteka Cuauhtin, the guy behind that CA program, is a total retard who's butchering the cultures/mythologies he claims to respect just as much as the evil white people he's bitching about. Thank you for bringing him up and giving me the opportunity to sperg out about one of my favorite historical subjects.

Skipping past the tiresome noble savage crap where he ignores how vigorously hierarchical both Aztec and Mayan imperial cultures were, to the point where sumptuary laws forbade non-nobles from wearing clothes woven from soft cotton instead of rough maguey fibers, or even *smelling certain wildflowers*, the idiot mashes together Aztec and Mayan cultural elements like a shitty Victorian-era fantasy writer.

I can't read his garbled "Aztec" phrases, beyond being able to tell pretty quick they're not classical Nahuatl (what the Aztecs spoke), but are probably words from a mangled Mayan dialect. While there was overlap between the Aztecs and Maya in their pantheons, they were *not* carelessly interchangeable, especially Huitzilopochtli, who was *the* national god unique to the Aztecs, and especially the Tenochca ethnic subgroup, who settled the capital Tenochtitlan. Invoking him in Mayan, a language of an ethnicity who didn't worship him at all, and that the Aztecs' sole concern with was as mercantile trading partners, is just stupid, and disrespectful to the differences of the two cultures.

Asking Tezcatlipoca to make you a "warrior for social justice" is comically stupid and shows zero understanding of the god. He's a mercurial god of fate and the primary trickster deity in that mythos. One of his titles is "The Enemy on Both Sides", to communicate how dangerous he is, and how unconcerned he is with mortals. Another of his titles is "He Whose Slaves We Are", to show how utterly powerless mere humans are against his decisions and actions. He's also the god of rulership, whose bestowed favor opens the door to entering the aristocracy or even kingship. He *is* the source of political hierarchical authority in Aztec imperial culture. Some loser crying and whining to him about the world being unfair would be literally laughed at (he's described as playing with mortals like marbles in his hand and laughing).

Quetzalcoatl is similarly hierarchical -- he's the divine source of priestly authority, and the main author of religious rules and strictures... including restrictions based on gender. While some gods had women somewhere in the religious hierarchy, Quetzalcoatl was noteworthy for having *no* female religious positions. Even Huitzilopochtli, the god of close-combat warfare, had female religious professionals.

As for Xipe Totec... yes, he was associated with healing and growth... but at a price. No one gets anything for free in the Aztec cosmos, to get life you have to pay life. His primary form of human sacrifice was by shooting the victims with arrows until they bled out, the running blood symbolizing the springtime rains that fed new vegetation and crops.

Bonus stupidity -- the Aztecs were notorious chauvinists themselves, and made the names of some of the outlying tribes that resisted subjugation like the Huaxteca shorthand for "butt-naked illiterate sex-crazed savages". Some cultural and religious ceremonies included characters that were essentially blackface-tier stereotypical portrayals of these outsider tribes. Super inclusive.

So basically, if you've made it this far through my sperging, this guy's a retard who's addicted to the noble savage copium and whitewashing the cultures he's crying about respecting and decolonizing, rather than letting the historical records and the cultures documented within speak for themselves. And he either can't, or doesn't care to, keep the regional languages he's parroting straight. Dumbass.
 
I have a cousin who is out in Cali, and he went out as an aspiring actor. And like all aspiring actors, he now works selling pot. But we were chatting and our Aunt got sucked into some weird New Age cult out in Sedona, AZ a few years back. Anyway he goes off about he's way too clever for that shit, and she only fell for it cause she's a republican. He than tells me he almost got suckered into like 3 different cults out in LA. and then said his acting buddy eventually quit, reconverted to Catholicism and started a family, and then said the guy was a bitch for quitting.
California culture is it's own cult. Get a bunch of disaffected youth to up-stakes and move thousands of miles from their families in pursuit of fame and fortune, pump them dry, tell them they're special because they aren't those stupid hicks in the flyovers..... Some wise up and leave, but the true converts stay and preach the gospel of fame to the next generation. Then if they piss off the wrong person or voice the wrong opinion, just ruin their careers.

It's prosperity gospel just without the Jesus.


@NoReturn says a bunch
Ironically, they wouldn't have this problem if they actually practiced the occult traditions they claim to believe in. There's a reason why traditional magick was done away from the village, often under cover of night, and apprentice "witches" were encouraged to have a life beyond their rituals and religion.

I'll believe that when one of you whiny bitches actually does something of substance, KAREN.
 
@SCSI
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Dropping this video again because it's very well-done for what it is:
And these because they're also fun:
@SCSI
this guy's a retard who's addicted to the noble savage copium and whitewashing the cultures he's crying about respecting and decolonizing, rather than letting the historical records and the cultures documented within speak for themselves.
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@RazorBackBacon
apprentice "witches" were encouraged to have a life beyond their rituals and religion.
Gotta have a day job. I've not seen many myths of the gods granting favors to worthless lumps. That seems more a modern-day isekai anime thing.
 
Gotta have a day job. I've not seen many myths of the gods granting favors to worthless lumps. That seems more a modern-day isekai anime thing.
OT but I remember my father complaining about Mighty Morphin' Power Rangers, saying the characters just waited around until they found the "magic crystal" (his words). He compared it to fiction from his day, where the heroes went out looking for adventure. But at least MMPR characters got black belts in karate on their own motivation. I can only imagine his reaction if I explained to him that modern 'heroes' didn't even do that much.
 
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