US Joe Biden News Megathread - The Other Biden Derangement Syndrome Thread (with a side order of Fauci Derangement Syndrome)

Let's pretend for one moment that he does die before the election, just for the funsies. What happens then? Will the nomination revert to option number 2, aka Bernie Sanders? Or will his running mate automatically replace him just the way Vice-President is supposted to step in after the Big Man in the White House chokes on a piece of matzo? Does he even have a running mate yet?

 

[Gehenna]

I think those retards in Brussels will try to figure out some way, but I think generally you're correct. If a civil war were to happen, it would likely result in a Syria type situation, where opposing nations fund militias in a proxy conflict, supply weapons, funding, or equipment, or send "volunteer" batallions to assist their side.

Unlikely, because it would plunge the whole world into a depression. The sudden lack of shipping defense would be... hell. And there would be a sudden lack. Because the navy would be needed at home to blockade the waters to prevent anyone giving any resources... and we have a -lot- of coastline, and blockades trake a-lot- of ships.


Would absolutely wreck China though. A U.S. in civil war wouldn't be importing much for China, and China's economy is already lagging hard enough they have had to fudge the numbers a -lot-. Might even collapse them outright. Would also be worth it on a global scale if not for the fact it'd also mean an end to U.S. food exports. And Chinese food exports. And uh... Indian Food exports and...

Well, what's a global famine between nation states?

 

[Feline Supremacist]

Not to jump back in to this, but...Nobody in the UK will come to America. Not to help, not to hinder. It won't happen. You're on your own and any talk otherwise is simply mental.

Everyone hates the Brits. And in Britain, everyone (Scots, Welsh, NI) hates the English. We're used to it.

I'm just replying to Willie and his notion that his scenarios have any traction.

.t BA with minor in early and Medieval English history

 

[Billy Beer]

I agree with this. Any talk of blue helmets or bongs or Frenchies coming over to help is ridiculous.

Putting aside the fact that the last time a proper war was fought on American soil was back in the mid 19th century, I cannot imagine any modern country who would gladly send their youngest and brightest just to interfere with another country's civil war, unless their name happened to be CCCP or USA. And one is dead while the other is tearing itself apart slowly. There's simply no casus belli you can sell to anyone to justify the expense and manpower.

In a civil war situation, your worry and concern won't be the Empire to the North, who would act a shield from land-ruskies, nor the chinks from the East, but the flood from the south. You've spent many decades trying to rid communism from South America and they could and probably would, cause a massive head-ache by flooding Northwards. Even if they were peaceful, your border defenses would be down and millions would escape poverty by moving in to America.

Especially for -Biden- and especially while that civil war plays absolute hell with world economics.

The money-men would move. History has shown that they do not like instability on their doorstep. Foriegn wars where they can play both sides is what they want and where they gain a shit load of power, resources and influence. As soon as that first shot is fired, they're on a plane to Europe, London, Hong Kong or Beijing.

I think those retards in Brussels will try to figure out some way, but I think generally you're correct. If a civil war were to happen, it would likely result in a Syria type situation, where opposing nations fund militias in a proxy conflict, supply weapons, funding, or equipment, or send "volunteer" batallions to assist their side.

Maybe Russia would fund some commie South Americans to push northwards, but it wouldn't be a post-ww2 situation where everyone runs in and grabs what they want. Though it depends on how the civil war turns out. If the country splits in to two factions, while maintaining some stability internally, it wouldn't be as bad as complete collapse. It would probably be best for both sides to knock up a quick treaty to form seperate governments, then fight, rather than chaos. If chaos happens, the whole country loses.

 

[soy_king]

Unlikely, because it would plunge the whole world into a depression. The sudden lack of shipping defense would be... hell. And there would be a sudden lack. Because the navy would be needed at home to blockade the waters to prevent anyone giving any resources... and we have a -lot- of coastline, and blockades trake a-lot- of ships.


Would absolutely wreck China though. A U.S. in civil war wouldn't be importing much for China, and China's economy is already lagging hard enough they have had to fudge the numbers a -lot-. Might even collapse them outright. Would also be worth it on a global scale if not for the fact it'd also mean an end to U.S. food exports. And Chinese food exports. And uh... Indian Food exports and...

Well, what's a global famine between nation states?

I'm not discounting that the economic effects would be catastrophic, I'm just describing what sort of international involvement there would be in a second US Civil War, if any.

 

[HTTP Error 404]

Huh, fascinating. Your name doesn't bring up any of the posts that you did as Hymen Hive, but going back says it is you. Well then, apologies for the undeserved hostility, I thought you were another sock puppet. Hence my continued snark towards you since I am several bottles in and don't go back to work till Thursday.

Well, as a bit of a mea culpa, to give a bit more of a serious response rather than the sheer snark.

There is no benefit to losing the seat, leaving aside the sheer wound it would be, right now there is nothing at all that they'd gain from it. Losing a position in the U.S. system holds no benefit. Since we don't have coalition parties, there's no leverage. You just outright lose any power you had. While it is possible to make life difficult, it's through things like the filibuster. California long since got rid of that. While they could theoretically make life difficult, they'd be doing it against anything he intends to pass... and in turn make themselves look like obstructionists. Making themselves -more- disliked hardly helps them. And it doesn't let them really gain anything. "Absence makes the heart grow fonder" only holds if everyone hates the new guy more, and short of pulling a Biden, Elder won't do that.

There's no benefit to losing the seat, absolutely. But is it enough of a detriment to give up the political capital to rig an election there, even ignoring the risk it would entail to risk rigging it so soon after the November 2020 election rigging? All eyes are on the region, the Cabal is infighting, Biden is running on a horrific political capital deficit, etc etc.

I know California is pretty pozzed, but I hear that's mostly the big cities (of which there are a lot), with other regions being less so. Hell, NoFX used to sing about wanting to burn Orange County down, so I'm guessing they're conservative over there? I know California has had a long time to "fortify" their elections against the possibility of people making the wrong decision (i.e., throwing the bastards out), but is it to the point that they could afford to rig it? Or is it just a case that it's just not feasible to throw out a Democrat after this much fortification?

 

[JohnDoe]

Even if they were peaceful, your border defenses would be down and millions would escape poverty by moving in to America

Yes, because people flee into areas of civil conflict where they don't speak the language or blend in to grab a bunch of gibs that aren't there because the welfare government has collapsed and now they are among a lot of trigger happy nationalists that are fine with using composted corpses as fertilizer. That would work out really well, I bet.

 

[Billy Beer]

Yes, because people flee into areas of civil conflict where they don't speak the language or blend in to grab a bunch of gibs that aren't there because the welfare government has collapsed and now they are among a lot of trigger happy nationalists that are fine with using composted corpses as fertilizer. That would work out really well, I bet.

In a normal situation, i would agree. But you've seen south america, right? It's one big failed, collapsed government, huge poverty, gang violence...At least in the states, albeit in a civil war, they could move, survive, wait for the dust to settle and live a better life with more opportunities for their kids. On top of that, more people carrying arms for the militias is never a bad thing, and they'd be fed at least.

Your big problem is which side the blacks and hispanics would fall on. The spics can get well armed, well trained reinforcements from south of the border in no time.

 

[The High Prophet of Truth]

 

[soy_king]

In a normal situation, i would agree. But you've seen south america, right? It's one big failed, collapsed government, huge poverty, gang violence...At least in the states, albeit in a civil war, they could move, survive, wait for the dust to settle and live a better life with more opportunities for their kids. On top of that, more people carrying arms for the militias is never a bad thing, and they'd be fed at least.

Your big problem is which side the blacks and hispanics would fall on. The spics can get well armed, well trained reinforcements from south of the border in no time.

I don't think you understand how much Latinos hate each other. PRs, Venezuelans and Cubans look down on everyone else, Mexicans hate Cubans and Central Americans, Central Americans hate each other, and most Brazilians here are working professionals who look down on everyone else. Latinos never will be a single unified demographic.

 

[Feline Supremacist]

In a civil war situation, your worry and concern won't be the Empire to the North, who would act a shield from land-ruskies, nor the chinks from the East, but the flood from the south. You've spent many decades trying to rid communism from South America and they could and probably would, cause a massive head-ache by flooding Northwards. Even if they were peaceful, your border defenses would be down and millions would escape poverty by moving in to America.


The money-men would move. History has shown that they do not like instability on their doorstep. Foriegn wars where they can play both sides is what they want and where they gain a shit load of power, resources and influence. As soon as that first shot is fired, they're on a plane to Europe, London, Hong Kong or Beijing.


Maybe Russia would fund some commie South Americans to push northwards, but it wouldn't be a post-ww2 situation where everyone runs in and grabs what they want. Though it depends on how the civil war turns out. If the country splits in to two factions, while maintaining some stability internally, it wouldn't be as bad as complete collapse. It would probably be best for both sides to knock up a quick treaty to form seperate governments, then fight, rather than chaos. If chaos happens, the whole country loses.

I think the bigger concern would be who gets the shiny nuclear toys. Russia would want stability in that regard so they'll fund whoever they believe would A) Not blow them to kingdom come and B) Be to their advantage to work with peaceably.

China, as always, would fuck themselves by either trying to get their hands on the nukes and/or align themselves with the most retarded and corrupt politicians who promise to keep the status quo going.

I can't believe I'm saying this but I think we're looking a possible Fallout style of Balkanization where regions get increased autonomy as the Federal government is weakened significantly.

In a normal situation, i would agree. But you've seen south america, right? It's one big failed, collapsed government, huge poverty, gang violence...At least in the states, albeit in a civil war, they could move, survive, wait for the dust to settle and live a better life with more opportunities for their kids. On top of that, more people carrying arms for the militias is never a bad thing, and they'd be fed at least.

Your big problem is which side the blacks and hispanics would fall on. The spics can get well armed, well trained reinforcements from south of the border in no time.

That's just some countries south of the border. Most are stable. It's like Africa, you can't generalize about an entire continent and part of North America.

 

[Kane Lives]

View attachment 2535451

It's things like these that make me wonder if the conspiracy theories were true. What's the rush Joe? Shouldn't you be safe once Americans are all faux-vaccinated? Why the world now?

 

[Dammit Mandrake!]

The English are just the worst.

 

[Billy Beer]

I don't think you understand how much Latinos hate each other. PRs, Venezuelans and Cubans look down on everyone else, Mexicans hate Cubans and Central Americans, Central Americans hate each other, and most Brazilians here are working professionals who look down on everyone else. Latinos never will be a single unified demographic.

TIL. So it would be civil war within a civil war? Civil warception? Shieeeet.

I think the bigger concern would be who gets the shiny nuclear toys. Russia would want stability in that regard so they'll fund whoever they believe would A) Not blow them to kingdom come and B) Be to their advantage to work with peaceably.

China, as always, would fuck themselves by either trying to get their hands on the nukes and/or align themselves with the most retarded and corrupt politicians who promise to keep the status quo going.

I can't believe I'm saying this but I think we're looking a possible Fallout style of Balkanization where regions get increased autonomy as the Federal government is weakened significantly.

I forgot about the nukes. You're right as well, if they looked like they were going to fall in to the hands of the wrong people, an organised, international pre-emptive strike would certainly be on the table. Damn.

That's just some countries south of the border. Most are stable. It's like Africa, you can't generalize about an entire continent and part of North America.

Would those some countries be pursuaded via rubels, shekels and Yen, to flood northwards?

View attachment 2535451

Ignoring the conspiracy theories for a second, what are the logistics in creating, shipping and giving out 11 billion+ (two doses and a booster) jabs?

The requirement of millions, upon millions of tons of material to make the jab, make the needles, make the syringes and then ship them all over, would be/is massive. I can't imagine it being very good for the environment...

 

[Capsaicin Addict]

Allow me to add some kerosene to the fire. This popped up on Twitter and a blog I read cross-posted it.

You’re a battalion commander in 2ID. For nine months you’ve been tasked with keeping I85 open between Portland and Boise. It’s a ridiculous area for one battalion, but every maneuver unit in the military is tasked.

There is no rotation out on the horizon. Your companies are strung out in platoon COPs across 500 miles of mostly remote highway.

Most of your HHC is in ad hoc platoons covering sectors as well.
The supply line is absolutely vital to keep the rest of your brigade sustained as it tries to secure Idaho.

Just as important is keeping it open westbound, to supply Portland, Seattle, and the areas in between. The insurgency played hell with the supply chain. FEMA is rationing food and necessities in urban areas, and every load is needed.

Early on you mostly dealt with occasional harrassment and clearing logs from the roadway. Turns out one guy with a chainsaw can snarl traffic through Umatilla National Forest for hours. Tracking them on logging roads and ATV trails is a nightmare.

You quickly learned that if you sent out road crews without escort, they would take harassing fire immediately. After one crew had their equipment torched and was forced to walk back in underwear, they refuse to work without a security element.

The problem is that when security is with the road crews, the insurgents just flex a few miles away and either create another roadblock, or sometimes hijack and burn a few loads stuck in the traffic. They especially seem to love hitting your fuelers. You’ve tried sending up UAVs to catch them at it, but they seem to have uncanny awareness of when you’re setting a trap and rarely bite. Those few you do roll up are sent north to the massive camp near Moses Lake. What you really need are SOF assets hunting the enemy while your forces hold key terrain.

Unfortunately, those assets are stretched thin and hard to come by.
It doesn’t help that the army lost 35% of long tabs in the Vax Purge of ’21. It also doesn’t help that half of 1st group is considered “politically unreliable” and is kept on Rear D at JBLM. Rumor is at least a dozen of those guys have up and vanished with their families, but solid info is kept close. You just know getting SOF assets in your AO is dicey.

SOF aren’t the only ones with personnel issues. You left 28 natives of Oregon and Idaho on rear D, to avoid any conflicts. Just last month CID rolled up an E4 who was passing convoy manifests and schedules to an old battle buddy in Lakewood, who was passing it to the insurgents.

Now your entire rear D is in segregated barracks and closely watched, and you’ve had to confiscate phones across the battalion. Your soldiers get one monitored call per week to their families. You’ve already signed 7 NJPs for guys who got caught with burners. The best intel you get, at least at first, was from social media companies providing data based on algorithms that identified insurgent activity.

The first round of mass arrests got hundreds. That dried up quickly, as they stopped using the platforms. It also scooped up hundreds of people based on social media history who are being held without charges, and are a constant PR nightmare. You have family members at your CP every day demanding due process, though you have nothing to do with detainee ops.

The biggest headache in your life, though, is the “volunteers”. When the proud boys tried to make a stand in Vancouver, and were immediately crushed, hundreds of “antifascists” showed up to “help”. You’ve been ordered to treat them as partner forces, but they’re worse than ANA. Half of them wheeze when they climb out of their subarus, and the other half can’t hold high ready for more than 10 seconds. They don’t follow orders, and after a few complaints about looting and some proud boy families going missing, the gloves came off locally. They still won’t engage your forces directly, but any “volunteers” who leave the wire on their own are likely to be found nailed to a tree. Of course local property crime and rape seems to correlate directly to their presence. They don’t want to fight, but they’ll harass civvies.

You get your morning brief and find that some of Idaho NGs missing Stingers surfaced last night and you’re down a chinook. You thank your lucky stars that Americans with ARs can’t fight the military.

 

[deeplyhigh]

It's things like these that make me wonder if the conspiracy theories were true. What's the rush Joe? Shouldn't you be safe once Americans are all faux-vaccinated? Why the world now?

They need more countries to be heavily jabbed like Israel and the UK so their case and hospitalization numbers don’t look odd.

 

[Celebrate Nite]

Simping for morons like Kanye and Nikki Minaj because they stumbled upon some "based" statements in their 300 daily tweets is kinda dumb and is something the right should stop doing

Remember when Taylor Swift was considered based by /pol/?

That didn't turn out too well for them either.

 

[Salubrious]

It's things like these that make me wonder if the conspiracy theories were true. What's the rush Joe? Shouldn't you be safe once Americans are all faux-vaccinated? Why the world now?

It's not about safety. It's about Pfizer making its money.

 

[Feline Supremacist]

Would those some countries be pursuaded via rubels, shekels and Yen, to flood northwards?

Some always (ie Mexico) send their low wage workers north although that's with the cooperation of business interests here. If there's no reason for them to come then it could get uncomfortable for the rich and powerful.

 

[Celebrate Nite]

like I said...people are rising up and not happy with the BS. starts small like an avalanche. Viva La Resistance.

View attachment 2535011

View attachment 2535012

Wow, NY-ers actually doing something good for once. I wonder what the new governor will say about all of th...

... oh. Guess we now know where her priorities are.

 

[Salubrious]

Wow, NY-ers actually doing something good for once. I wonder what the new governor will say about all of th...
View attachment 2535475
... oh. Guess we now know where her priorities are.

I love how she's sperging out about abortions in New York, like it would EVER be an issue.

It's amazing how Democrats think the federal government should intervene every time a state they have nothing to do with does something they disagree with.