La Palma is rumbling - What are the implications of a 40 foot Tsunami along the east coast?

Super-Chevy454 said:
Note then the "Big One" might also shake Portland and Seattle but however New Madrid might said "hold my beer" shaking the Mississippi river from Memphis to St. Louis.
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The data released by some scientists showing proof of he geography of California essentially showing there is a limit to the size of quakes. They will get large quakes but never the "Big One" I think the limit was 8.1 or something like that.

I know I'm a kill joy, but California will slowly sink into the pacific but never sheer off. The big one will never happen.

I know, I know...disappointing.
 
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Menotaur said:
You may recall a great tidal wave happened in Alaska when essentially a side of a mountain slid into the lake. High waves. This island - well what you see on the surface is just the tip, the "mountain" goes dow deep so if it collapses and the piece they believe can slide, does slid the island won't be gone but a 5-10 mile section would.

The displacement would most certainly send a wave of biblical proportions to the East Coast. Not the stuff of building falling, but deaths would be plenty and the damage would be insane. it would bankrupt insurance companies.

The damage would dwarf any hurricane and it would be a natural disaster on a scale we have not seen in recorded history probably.
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I don't think this would be covered by any insurance that people on the US east coast would have. It could fall under three disaster categories. Volcanic, Earthquake or Flood. The first two are very regional specific and third is not offered by private insurers at all. Thr insurance companies would be fine. Everyone else would be fucked.
 
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mindlessobserver said:
I don't think this would be covered by any insurance that people on the US east coast would have. It could fall under three disaster categories. Volcanic, Earthquake or Flood. The first two are very regional specific and third is not offered by private insurers at all. Thr insurance companies would be fine. Everyone else would be fucked.
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Senile joe would find some way to make the insurers do the thing man and pay money anyway.
 
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mindlessobserver said:
I don't think this would be covered by any insurance that people on the US east coast would have. It could fall under three disaster categories. Volcanic, Earthquake or Flood. The first two are very regional specific and third is not offered by private insurers at all. Thr insurance companies would be fine. Everyone else would be fucked.
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I can't say I know the ins and outs of insurance other than they are snakes; but that would be akin to an insurance company voiding a claim of home sea shore damage for a Hurricane that passed - but not hit - the coast. Either way, 3 -10 million suers of the most expensive real estate in the USA would probably get the courts going their way.

Technically the cause is a landslip and not the actual quake - so the arguments would be pretty slick in courts. It would be amusing. Sort of...
 
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Fanatical Pragmatist said:
Miami and Daytona would be turbo-fucked. Same with Myrtle Beach, South Carolina and possibly Wilmington, North Carolina.

Basically any city without a well-duned barrier island and ample salt marsh between the ocean and itself is in a bad position, because those geographic features are effective at dissipating water surges.
Its also bad science to just assume "20m wave = everybody <20m elevation is fucked.
However, in any natural disaster the threat is less what nature can do, and more how humans will react.

EDIT: The Northeast Coast would probably be more fucked. Less inhibitory geography (even without human destruction of the salt marshes) and closer to the radial due to the curvature of the earth (despite the south being closer in latitude).
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The US navy would be mega boned too unless the manage to get their ships out to sea. The Norfolk facilities would get wrecked. I would like to think with a good 8 to 12 hours warning they would be able to get their shit out, but that might interrupted their mandatory racial awareness training. Priorities.
 
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Menotaur said:
The data released by some scientists showing proof of he geography of California essentially showing there is a limit to the size of quakes. They will get large quakes but never the "Big One" I think the limit was 8.1 or something like that.

I know I'm a kill joy, but California will slowly sink into the pacific but never sheer off. The big one will never happen.

I know, I know...disappointing.
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Not recent data at all. It's been pretty well known for 50-odd years. The San Andreas Fault is a strike-slip fault where two plates are grinding against each other in different directions. "The Big One" only happens on subduction faults. Only the very tippy top of CA has one of those offshore. The Gorda and Juan De Fuca Plates subducting under the North American plate extend this fault up to off the coast of Vancouver Island Canada and is also what drives the volcanism of the PNW.
 
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As an update for people who are following along:

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The volcanic-seismic crisis continues to evolve. During the past 24 hours, earthquakes have been moving westwards and become shallower, the National Geographic Institute (IGN) reported.

This is likely reflecting continued magma intrusion and migration under the surface, supported also by continued deformation of the surface in the same area as the quakes. In places, the ground has been uplifted by 1.5 cm (almost one inch) already. The likelihood of an eruption has thus increased and the situation is being followed closely, although it is still far from certain whether it will or not result in a new eruption of the volcano.

Since the beginning of the seismic series at 3:18 (UTC) on Sep 11th until 8:00 a.m. local time today, 2935 earthquakes have been detected in the southern area of the island of La Palma. Of these, 616 were large enough to have their epicenters and depths located. The largest quake occurred today at 06:00 a.m. with a provisional magnitude of 3.9. Anomalies in the seismic attenuation that currently exist under the island of La Palma caused the magnitude to have been overestimated, IGN reported, and revised the magnitude to only 3.5. At any rate, the larger quakes are now being frequently felt and reported by residents who are increasingly worried about the situation under their feet.
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A more layman's terms kind of article here, where it appears local authorities are downplaying the risks to people living and vacationing there, at least as of now:

www.express.co.uk

Spain holiday hotspot risks volcano eruption - yellow warning issued after 100s of tremors

BRITONS still enjoying their summer holidays in La Palma, Spain, will face a regional yellow warning for the Cumbre Vieja volcano area, following hundreds of tremors since the weekend.
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Spain holiday hotspot risks volcano eruption - yellow warning issued after 100s of tremors​

BRITONS still enjoying their summer holidays in La Palma, Spain, will face a regional yellow warning for the Cumbre Vieja volcano area, following hundreds of tremors since the weekend.

The Canary Islands Government has activated the Special Plan for Civil Protection and Attention to Volcanic Risk Emergencies (PEVOLCA) in the Cumbre Vieja area (La Palma) due to the increase in seismic activity registered in recent days.
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As reported by the Spanish Ministry of Public Administrations, Justice and Security, the decision has been adopted by the Scientific Committee of PEVOLCA convened this Monday to assess the situation.

Specifically, the Alert Plan has been activated for Fuencaliente, Los Llanos de Aridane, El Paso and Mazo, resulting in the change of the traffic light from green to yellow for these municipalities.

Officials say the “highest levels of Helium-3 detected in 30 years” in the volcanic ridge was a detonator.

Cumbre Vieja, Spanish for Old Summit, is an active but dormant volcanic ridge on the volcanic ocean island of La Palma in the Canary Islands that erupted twice in the 20th century - in 1949 and again in 1971.


Experts are insisting the chances of an eruption that would put the local population in danger are slim.

Nemesio Perez, Director of the Volcanology Institute of the Canaries (INVOLCAN) said yesterday/on Monday as he assured locals and holidaymakers in the area they could go about their everyday lives: “In 80 percent of cases, these processes remain underground and do not result in a volcanic eruption.”

He added: “We’re moving from a situation of normality to one of alert.

“We’re recognising a change in seismic activity and recommending to the population that they pay attention to information issued by the authorities.”
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I am not an expert in any of this, I'm just following the news with curiosity.
 
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altar ego said:
As an update for people who are following along:

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A more layman's terms kind of article here, where it appears local authorities are downplaying the risks to people living and vacationing there, at least as of now:

www.express.co.uk

Spain holiday hotspot risks volcano eruption - yellow warning issued after 100s of tremors

BRITONS still enjoying their summer holidays in La Palma, Spain, will face a regional yellow warning for the Cumbre Vieja volcano area, following hundreds of tremors since the weekend.
www.express.co.uk www.express.co.uk


I am not an expert in any of this, I'm just following the news with curiosity.
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Personally, I'm taking all of this with a grain of salt -- but still actively keeping an eye open on any new developments.

Why is that? Well, the media is currently eerily silent on this whole ordeal, sans for a few of these volcano-centric articles here and there -- and just remember that in late 2019 on the eve of Coronachan, there was next to no mainstream coverage about the virus. In fact, most of the talk of WuFlu prior to the media shitshow was from either Chinese news or Mister Metokur's streams -- and a month or so later, the New Normal began and came out of the blue.

That being said, this could be a big nothingburger, but it could just as easily be a real harbinger of deadly things on the horizon. Remember, at the eve of WuFlu, the media was completely focused on Trump's impeachment and the possible war with Iran. So for all we know, this volcano activity is being brushed aside by the media for talk of vaccines, Delta variants, Nicki Minaj, Norm Macdonald's death (R.I.P.) and fucking AOC's retarded dress.
 
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Voltekka said:
We need this disaster. A punishment for our deeds.

Also, what about the internet cables?
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The cables themselves will be fine. The connection stations will probably be damaged, but that depends how far inland they are. Some are a couple of miles.
Michael Jacks0n said:
That being said, this could be a big nothingburger
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Nothingburger should be the default assumption. I'd really prefer it, personally. There are a lot of things that I would have preferred to be nothings.
 
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