You know when one person who's white trash and lives in a trailer says nigger and then SJWs start pointing at it as evidence that the entirety of society is racist? This post is kind of doing that, but with incels instead of black people.
I would love to see an actual study on this, or at least a convincing set of anecdotes.
I agree on the first part, but it is mostly from socially awkward teens/man-children. I know this said much time probably in this thread and r/incel thread that these people that super obsessive with sex are themselves still virgins. With the second part some stories I heard are pretty brutal but most of the time it's either boring/unappealing to the girls they are attracted to or just an asshole.
I don't exactly agree with the quote this was responding to either, but this is kind of a retarded take. There's a world of difference between society expecting a man to be settled down with kids, and expecting a man to have just fucked at all regardless of whether it's someone they settled with or was a one-night stand. The guy was obviously getting at the latter.
I didn't say that. I'm just saying that "nobody cares" isn't necessarily true and sometimes people do give you shit. Even if it's people about whomst's opinion you shouldn't really care about, it can still FEEL bigger than that.
Is it fair to blame society because it feels bigger to you? Not saying you specifically are blaming society, but the person you quoted when you told your story was certainly replying to someone who blames society.
Hey man, if you like to get consumed by the swamp of despair - be my guest. You can join the accelerationist doomers and cry about how the world is fucked and unfair. I, in the meantime, will do my best to extract positives out of my circumstances and maybe give back too.
To the extent that it's partly a symptom of living in a highly sexualized society, yes. I'm not claiming that people are getting together and forming male virgin murdering squads, but our society places a huge value on sexual desirability, and I think it's rather silly to pretend that isn't the case.
https://slatestarcodex.com/2014/08/31/radicalizing-the-romanceless/
It's not silly at all, because that isn't the case for most things. For sex and relationships, sure, sexual desirability counts. For the rest of the 99% of things that make up life and living in society? Not really.
Correct.
>soy memeThanks for adviceI’m perfectly content seeing you work all your life to impress and defend your queens. In fact isn’t it time you got to work.. you’ve already been online 20 whole minutes.
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This sort of statement will always have a deceptively hit or miss response. Sexual desirability is more important for you the poorer you are. Having casual sex is cheaper for a very attractive person to do than a person of average attractiveness. People who are sexually satisfied, in a committed relationship, or insecure about the topic will be more likely to respond when they disagree while those who agree have reason to hold their tongue. People like to repress their feelings, especially their feelings about sex. The anglosphere is notorious for taking their sexual repression too far. Sexual desirability is something we prefer to act on without reflecting about it for too long. This is because we are elevating an experience where our body is telling us what it wants and we are choosing to go along with it rather than make a rational choice. Most relationships are formed by primitive urges, not higher thinking. Healthy relationships aren't really something you can rationally explain. Sexual desirability in general is a bit more rational, so you can feel correct in saying "incels as a whole are that way for these reasons" but not in saying "here is why this specific guy is an incel." Even in a highly sexualized society you can't assume sexual 'openness' will naturally result. To some extent your sexual desirability is controlled by whether or not everyone else who will be aware of someone's sexual desires toward you will be supportive. Take into account the internet, social media, etc. I mean, being honest about finding someone sexually attractive has never been more risky. Anyone less than a 10 can be mocked in a variety of ways, so why expose yourself to a situation where your choice is criticized constantly? Safe bets become very valuable in this market. Minimize risk to reputation by either: Not Dating At All, or Dating Only Very Attractive People. Many people choose not to date at all because they see it as the correct choice. They see it as the correct choice because they aren't really "not dating at all" no, they are "waiting for the right person."
So your advice is "become a violent criminal = self-improvement"? I don't get it.
Is Eugenics really such a bad idea? Hotwheels himself is in favor of it because it would have meant he would have underwent a life without suffering from the brittle bone syndrome, I'm in favor of it because I wouldn't have had to undergo my suffering, and most of the population of Iceland is in favor of it because that's how they eliminated down syndrome.
www.cbsnews.com
this never has to be a debate about the morality of eugenics when it could easily be a debate on the consent of the governed. If there is going to be a eugenics policy of any kind it will be one the people voted for and are represented by. If people want a eugenics policy I am fine with it, but it should never be a decision people have made for them.Is Eugenics really such a bad idea? Hotwheels himself is in favor of it because it would have meant he would have underwent a life without suffering from the brittle bone syndrome, I'm in favor of it because I wouldn't have had to undergo my suffering, and most of the population of Iceland is in favor of it because that's how they eliminated down syndrome.
"What kind of society do you want to live in?": Inside the country where Down syndrome is disappearing
Iceland has almost eliminated Down syndrome by aborting virtually 100 percent of fetuses that test positive.
Read Joseph De Maistre or alot of the classical "Counter-Enlightenment" if you want a debate regarding "the consent of the governed". I despise Marxist and Wahhabist schools of thought because I believe that religious persecution by the state is quite possibly the most evil thing a government can do (like how the Mormons and Natives were treated by the US government) but I still read Marxist philosophers to get an idea of why they believe what they believe. "first rule of war- know thy enemy". Opinions are like assholes because everybody's got one- but looking at the behavior of the vast majority of Americans (and people in the EU) today makes me believe that universal voting rights is a terrible idea. Even the hyperbole example set by Starship Troopers where only those who had already provided a number of years to the civil service had the right to vote sounds like a better idea than having people like the Qanon shaman have the same amount of political clout as someone like Elon Musk.
Why didn't you kill yourself?
