Furry Fandom and Drama General

[Leonid Brezhnev]

Haha holy shit, someone found a fucking DIAPER on their windshield at rainfurrest

EDIT: Diaper on the grounds outside

Jesus Christ.

 

[ShavedSheep]

I-is that a used diaper

 

[Leonid Brezhnev]

I-is that a used diaper

I think so.

 

[Trilby]

Fantagraphics did, and still does, a lot of other stuff like republishing classic works and non-furry stuff like Jim Woodring. I used to read a fair amount of Fantagraphics stuff like Critters, where Captain Jack and Usagi Yojimbo showed up first, as well as Steve Gallacci, who did Albedo. Also stuff like Gnuff by Freddy Milton, who was more well known for work on Disney comics and was more Carl Barks-influenced.

I'm actually working for Freddy Milton right now! Not so much on a comic but revising one of his novels that has a dragon character in it.

Never got into the fandom as such, though. Dodged a bullet there, really.

It's for the best.

At the time, most of that stuff was fairly mainstream and hadn't completely degenerated into pure fetish material.

I'm sure it was still very fresh and interesting when the idea of putting animals into these roles was a novel idea on paper (where it should've stayed).

I think so.

Why it's not safe to leave your house anymore it seems.

 

[Super Collie]

I think we got into furry history stuff before, wasn't it really that whole Burned Furs thing being viciously anti-homosexual in addition to its anti-public freakiness that really caused people to explode with not powerleveling in public because any attempts to do so was seen as homophobic or something? I'm confused by this all, I just recall hearing that Burned Furs was really anti-gay and associated the increasing sexual nature of the fandom with gay people.

I've derided the Burned Furs in the past, mostly because I agreed with their ideology but did not like that the leaders also spouted homophobic things. Yes, there are/were issues in the fandom with things getting weird, but blasting the gays for it was not proper and grossly incorrect. The Burned Furs were almost right. In 1998, they declared "[The anthropomorphics] fandom is being overrun by sexually dysfunctional, socially stunted and creatively bankrupt hacks and pervs." This reads exactly like something you'd expect to see in the midst of this Rainfurrest shitstorm, but no this was written by people with foresight in the late 90's.

Overall, they were unhappy with notable people in the fandom promoting their own interests with mainstream media and saying perverted things. Several of these furs were successfully chased into hiding their powerwords and all that. The "proto-SJW" atmosphere of the nineties ended up successfully ending the Burned Furs' run in 2001. Had they not been homophobic and extreme in their beliefs, they probably would've done something. They exist today under an entirely new name, Improved Anthropomorphics, which you've probably never heard of because as far as I know they've done nothing of notability.

According to Wikifur, the Burned Furs once sold shirts that said "I don't have a lifestyle, I have a life" -- we kind of really need that sort of mentality to come back around, but the fandom is too far gone. Rationality lost that war because unfortunately the people who chose to fight it for us were shitheads and now you get diapers put on your car at conventions in 2015 because of it, and you can't call those people out without SJW furries crying "kink shaming". Putting diapers on cars is not a kink, it's a dick move. The silver lining I guess is that it seems as though for the most part the fandom is starting to push back against bullshit like this and social media is helping the cause far more than webrings did in the past.

I always get paranoid making posts like these because I feel like I'm begging for A-Log ratings (rip), but I've never not been disgusted by sick fucks like this in the fandom. It's been 20 years coming, but I hope they finally get what they all fucking deserve. I know it's wishful thinking, but a man can dream.

 

[RJ MacReady]

I always get paranoid making posts like these because I feel like I'm begging for nice bloke ratings (rip), but I've never not been disgusted by sick fucks like this in the fandom.

Well, distaste for "sexually dysfunctional, socially stunted and creatively bankrupt hacks and pervs" is more or less universal among people who aren't exactly that.

 

[Reddit Avenger]

I've derided the Burned Furs in the past, mostly because I agreed with their ideology but did not like that the leaders also spouted homophobic things. Yes, there are/were issues in the fandom with things getting weird, but blasting the gays for it was not proper and grossly incorrect. The Burned Furs were almost right. In 1998, they declared "[The anthropomorphics] fandom is being overrun by sexually dysfunctional, socially stunted and creatively bankrupt hacks and pervs." This reads exactly like something you'd expect to see in the midst of this Rainfurrest shitstorm, but no this was written by people with foresight in the late 90's.

Overall, they were unhappy with notable people in the fandom promoting their own interests with mainstream media and saying perverted things. Several of these furs were successfully chased into hiding their powerwords and all that. The "proto-SJW" atmosphere of the nineties ended up successfully ending the Burned Furs' run in 2001. Had they not been homophobic and extreme in their beliefs, they probably would've done something. They exist today under an entirely new name, Improved Anthropomorphics, which you've probably never heard of because as far as I know they've done nothing of notability.

According to Wikifur, the Burned Furs once sold shirts that said "I don't have a lifestyle, I have a life" -- we kind of really need that sort of mentality to come back around, but the fandom is too far gone. Rationality lost that war because unfortunately the people who chose to fight it for us were shitheads and now you get diapers put on your car at conventions in 2015 because of it, and you can't call those people out without SJW furries crying "kink shaming". Putting diapers on cars is not a kink, it's a dick move. The silver lining I guess is that it seems as though for the most part the fandom is starting to push back against bullshit like this and social media is helping the cause far more than webrings did in the past.

I always get paranoid making posts like these because I feel like I'm begging for nice bloke ratings (rip), but I've never not been disgusted by sick fucks like this in the fandom. It's been 20 years coming, but I hope they finally get what they all fucking deserve. I know it's wishful thinking, but a man can dream.

Yeah, seeing furfags actually respond like rational human beings (by furry standards, baby steps) for once and actually saying this shit isn't okay is honestly kind of nice. For years its always seemed from a then-outsider's perspective that the "leader's" and your Uncle Kage's were more interested in twisting PR to make everything seem all wholesome and fine while some dude in the background was walking around in diapers and bondage gear as opposed to telling these people to fuck off since no one wants to see that shit. I mean I'm all for inclusiveness but what the fuck.

Oh well seeing cons supposedly banning all diaper/fetish shit outright and the reactions to this level of sheer unashamed degeneracy at least fills me with some kind of misplaced hope that this shit will finally be ostracized for good. In any event I can't wait see how people try to twist this "little bit of messy fun :3c" into something innocent and totally acceptable.

 

[Trilby]

Oh well seeing cons supposedly banning all diaper/fetish shit outright and the reactions to this level of sheer unashamed degeneracy at least fills me with some kind of misplaced hope that this shit will finally be ostracized for good. In any event I can't wait see how people try to twist this "little bit of messy fun :3c" into something innocent and totally acceptable.

I hope never, these people need to grow up.

 

[Super Collie]

Over the past couple years, some cons have told companies that sell dildos to leave and not come back, or that they can return but they cannot show their products in the public dealer's den. This of course has led to a variety of immature workarounds like "put your hand in this closed box to feel one of the toys but not look at it" and similar nonsense, but at least there are some conventions who have the balls to tell these people that there are rules that must be followed.

I am hoping that others continue to take note of this, or for the ones that don't their conventions wane as people stop attending them to instead go to ones where people don't get to wear diapers and shit in public. ("Shit" both as a collective noun as well as a verb.)

 

[Reddit Avenger]

Oh my god this fucking hashtag. Sorry I dunno how to embed twitter stuff.

https://twitter.com/hashtag/RF2015?src=hash

 

[John Furrman]

In any event I can't wait see how people try to twist this "little bit of messy fun :3c" into something innocent and totally acceptable.

If they banned diaperfurs and their shit, I would actually attend a furry convention. People who have attended tell me that some people smell straight up like shit. "A little bit of messy fun" is probably already their mantra.

 

[Adamska]

Oh my god this fucking hashtag. Sorry I dunno how to embed twitter stuff.

https://twitter.com/hashtag/RF2015?src=hash

Adding -gate at the end of a word doesn't make it a scandal you bawling fuck; it's a cheap shitty way to make something seem more noteworthy than it really is. Watergate was important, and the name of the building it took place in; whatevergate is cheap and lazy journalism and activism. Especially since being booted for damaging property due to retardation and a lack of understanding that you have to deal with other people is no scandal; it's reasonable.

 

[JFKdestroyer]

It should be fun to see how the convention addresses all this, and whether or not the hotel even offers them a chance to return. If I were management, having to get a bathroom divider replaced and have people clean up dirty diapers in the parking lot would probably be enough for me to say "get out".

Remember, Anthrocon nearly got kicked out of it's main hotel because of one particularly awful room incident. The hotels don't care until you start costing them money.

 

[Super Collie]

Oh my god this fucking hashtag. Sorry I dunno how to embed twitter stuff.

https://twitter.com/hashtag/RF2015?src=hash

WHAT THE FUCK IS EVEN HAPPENING ANYMORE

 

[Adamska]

WHAT THE FUCK IS EVEN HAPPENING ANYMORE

You are seeing people blubber in rage over not being allowed to be perverted retards and traumatize and fuck with the public, which may or may not include children in the mix.

You don't see people try and defend people who expose themselves in public, but it's different here because arbitrary reasons.

 

[Night Terror]

Oh my god this fucking hashtag. Sorry I dunno how to embed twitter stuff.

https://twitter.com/hashtag/RF2015?src=hash

Didn't this convention take place in a hotel? So some retard actually committed an act of vandalism by carving a hole in a cubicle wall?
At least he was swiftly banned. And I sincerely doubt this Saphy chappy will be allowed back in the hotel, let alone as a member of the con.

 

[Super Collie]

Spoiler: Let's see how Saphykins is taking his punishment.

What a fucking cock. Banning him from just two conventions isn't enough.

 

[Reddit Avenger]

Spoiler: Let's see how Saphykins is taking his punishment.

What a fucking cock. Banning him from just two conventions isn't enough.

Yeah his twitter is kind of amazing.

 

[Bugaboo]

It's werid when normal people who just enjoy drawing animals and don't think it's sexy are the minority in a fandom

 

[Splendid]

By that logic they wouldn't let them hold a con; something nasty always happens when you get a few hundred deviant autists in for a fetish meeting.

Honestly, they shouldn't hold cons until they clean up their shit. That's like 70% of this fandom's problems.

EDIT: Lol, there are commie furs too.