Mastodon - "Decentralized" Twitter Knockoff & Rat King Breeding Ground

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I thought I remembered that "atax1a" name from somewhere.

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He got doxed in the Leftist/Communist/Antifa/Furry General thread. He's also an ex-twitter employee who claims to be a plural system and seems to get entangled in endless pathetic drama with other munchie/spoonie retards in terminally online leftist idpol communities.

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His response to this drama is about as incomprehensible as the drama itself is. Mastodon is amazing because it's like a time sink for all these tenderqueer social justice accountability idpol idiots to engage in endless sperg slapfights vying for control over instances, keeping them from engaging in consent accidents IRL. "Their plural system member raped my plural system member on Discord last thursday and we need to have community accountability processes in place". :story:
 
In other news from the Fediverse, the Raspberry Pi project announced it hired an ex-cop. [A]

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In the article he mentions he was a Technical Surveillance Officer and used the Raspberry Pi in his police work. Oh. Oh no.

It went down about as well on fucking Mastodon of all places as you'd expect, with a massive seethe wave in the replies. Raspberry Pi then started hiding replies and going into a meltdown.

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The shitfest spilled over onto twitter where Raspberry Pi started blocking every person who replied critically. [A]

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More seething. I'm going to assume the ghost gun 3D print stan account tagging a police department in the replies has to be some sort of failed ironic joke.

Since the Raspberry Pi is an open source project, I'm sure the open source development community will probably proceed to implode into a supermassive black hole of infighting and drama in the next few days over this revelation, hopefully reducing the population of neckbeards in the universe by a large amount in the process.

If this'd fit somewhere else better, by all means move it there. It crosses over a whole bunch of different online drama hives.
 
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Since the Raspberry Pi is an open source project, I'm sure the open source development community will probably proceed to implode into a supermassive black hole of infighting and drama in the next few days over this revelation, hopefully reducing the population of neckbeards in the universe by a large amount in the process.
What does "open source project" even mean at this point? Unlike arduino, I don't think that the hardware is something that anyone else is allowed to reproduce...
Anyway, this serves them right. They've been far more focused on random woke shit like #blackgirlscancode than actually delivering a fucking product.
An open source project literally hiring a mass surveillence operative. What a fucking joke.
 
I thought the same thing initially.

In practice, however, you're just ending up with a couple dozen or so un-paid CEO-equivalents who all agree collectively to block any of the freer instances. You get marginalized anyway.

Gab and Spinster and Poast might all have instances, but users on those instances can't talk to anyone else.
What, is it censorship that people posting on Facepunch can't reply to threads on Kiwi Farms?
 
What, is it censorship that people posting on Facepunch can't reply to threads on Kiwi Farms?
The point of the fediverse is that it's meant to be a collection of servers that, together, could supplant twitter (and further). With a decentralized design, the hope is that it'll produce a better twitter, more resistant to censorship. (Though small tier webservices run by amateurs have their downsides as well.)

In theory, one server defederating another server would be a pretty decentralized process. Once in a long while, one server might defederate another server, but there'd be plenty of other, competing servers that would still maintain connections to the server, so defederating for a shitty reason would lose you users.

The network would treat censorship as damage and route around it.

That's not what happens though.

What actually happens is that servers that collectively have like 80% of the fediverse users all defederate together in lock-step. If you're blocked on one, you'll soon find yourself blocked from most fediverse users.

There isn't really even the opportunity for public pressure to push back, because the defederation is so coordinated and extensive, that people don't really even know they're missing anything. Everyone assumes "well, must be some nazis, probably for a good reasons".

So the "fediverse" as an collection, is about as censorious as twitter, except with shittier infrastructure, somehow less accountability, shittier, inconsistent tech between apps, frontends and backends than twitter.

Like at least twitter provides consistency. The fediverse can't even provide that, and it doesn't even solve the censorship problem.

I say this as someone who runs a node and regularly uses it. I have fun, but it's definitely an annoying circlejerk at times.
 
Looking at Mastodon.social, I see that Taylor Lorenz is making one or two Mastodon posts or reposts a week. Caraballo hasn't used Mastodon since November 29. Chad Loder is making a few posts a day on kolektiva.social after getting shoved out of the Blue Bird's nest, but nothing remotely approaching his former activity on Twitter.

The Great Twitter Flounce-Out to Mastodon appears to be failing spectacularly, even when the flouncers have no Twitter account to post on.
 
The point of the fediverse is that it's meant to be a collection of servers that, together, could supplant twitter (and further). With a decentralized design, the hope is that it'll produce a better twitter, more resistant to censorship. (Though small tier webservices run by amateurs have their downsides as well.)

In theory, one server defederating another server would be a pretty decentralized process. Once in a long while, one server might defederate another server, but there'd be plenty of other, competing servers that would still maintain connections to the server, so defederating for a shitty reason would lose you users.

The network would treat censorship as damage and route around it.

That's not what happens though.

What actually happens is that servers that collectively have like 80% of the fediverse users all defederate together in lock-step. If you're blocked on one, you'll soon find yourself blocked from most fediverse users.

There isn't really even the opportunity for public pressure to push back, because the defederation is so coordinated and extensive, that people don't really even know they're missing anything. Everyone assumes "well, must be some nazis, probably for a good reasons".

So the "fediverse" as an collection, is about as censorious as twitter, except with shittier infrastructure, somehow less accountability, shittier, inconsistent tech between apps, frontends and backends than twitter.

Like at least twitter provides consistency. The fediverse can't even provide that, and it doesn't even solve the censorship problem.

I say this as someone who runs a node and regularly uses it. I have fun, but it's definitely an annoying circlejerk at times.
This works until twitter or truth.social (which is already running mastadon) decides to federate and does not follow the now niche group that was formally the 80%.
 
This works until twitter or truth.social (which is already running mastadon) decides to federate and does not follow the now niche group that was formally the 80%.
Maybe things will change then. But for now, it's kind of a ghost town unless you just want your own opinions parroted back at you. (lol they're already blocking truth.social)

Don't get me wrong, I'm not totally pessimistic. Like I'm hoping things get better. Just kinda lame right now though.

Also, a politics free standardization process would really benefit the community. Currently the only thing that keeps the developers collaborating on new, intercompatible features, is that the wrongthinkers have some solid programmers on their side.

Like Alex Gleason. Lol people bitch constantly about Alex and his terfiness, but they know his frontend, Soapbox, is pretty much the nicest, most featureful drop-in frontend for pleroma or mastodon available.

I've seen fediverse node admins bitch about Alex in different ways. I've seen some: 1) refuse to use Soapbox and use shittier, clunkier frontends rather than use "terf technology".; or 2) use Soapbox because it's better and more featureful, yet just bitch about it constantly.

Either use it or don't, just shut the fuck up.
 
So the "fediverse" as an collection, is about as censorious as twitter, except with shittier infrastructure, somehow less accountability, shittier, inconsistent tech between apps, frontends and backends than twitter.
Also many of the instances are run by absolute raving lunatics. So was Twitter really but it was hidden behind a layer of corporate bullshit.
 
More Mastodon censorship, this time involving a 35 year old Brazilian instance operator who had to learn the hard way that you either submit to the SJW TRA cult controlling discourse on Mastodon, or your ass can GTFO. Apparently, all you need to get an instance mass-blocked amongst entire parts of Mastodon is 1) accuse someone of doing a "KiwiFarms" (no evidence necessary) 2) invoke the #Fediblock hashtag. I don't quite understand what this hashtag means or what it does to invoke it, but I imagine that it causes all the other instances to kneejerk-block whomever it's invoked for.

"I do not understand how someone can use #Fediblock tag to try to world-block an entire instance with several thousand users because of a different opinion about moderation or even because of a private personal situation"

"#Fediblock, for us, is something serious, we need real and concrete evidence. For us, it's the last resort, only used when we need to deal with something that can harm our users or our community, and that is not the case here, IMHO"

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Imagine being on a platform where you have to worry about some fucking hashtag being invoked against you, that you refer to it as something "serious".

Someone needs to start an instance called fediblock.abuse, LMAO.
 
Imagine being on a platform where you have to worry about some fucking hashtag being invoked against you, that you refer to it as something "serious".

Someone needs to start an instance called fediblock.abuse, LMAO.
People should just randomly accuse whatever Mastodon instances they don't like of being Kiwi Farms, since that's apparently all it takes to get these morons to block it.
 
The Verge's founder Joshua Topolsky is MAT because Twatter placed a sensitive warning on one of his tweets with a link to his Mastodon account:

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Here's what the tweet itself actually looks like:

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As you can see, it's not the tweet itself that's marked "sensitive" but the link to his mastodon instance.

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So I had a look at his Mastodon account and despite all the bombast about leaving Twatter and posting more there, apparently there's nothing there to see:


I agree with the tag, actually. Anyone who takes Taylor Lorenz seriously and plugs her on their podcast should have all of their tweets labled "sensitive", so that everyone knows they're dealing with an easily triggered SJW snowflake who's oversensitive to reality.

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I am beginning to wonder if Elon Musk is deliberately trolling the SJWs though. You know how they wanted everything that doesn't promote their cult ideology tagged as "misinformation", and this is basically giving them a taste of their medicine.

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I love the Twitter genre of "this tripped an automated system for some reason, AHA! (((THEY)))'RE DELIBERATELY TRYING TO STOP ME THE MOST IMPORTANT TWITTER USER! NOW I WILL SHAME THEM BY TWEETING ABOUT IT ENDLESSLY UNRAVELING THEIR ENTIRE PLOT!"

"What are you talking about? Of course Elon is personally messing with the trending algorithm that I've never paid attention to before and personally flagging my tweets. It's not like he could just ban any mention of it or ban me personally for warning about his nefarious scheme, that would awaken the people to what he's doing!"
 
It's not like he could just ban any mention of it or ban me personally for warning about his nefarious scheme, that would awaken the people to what he's doing!"
Even though Musk completely doesn't give a shit and bans people and then dunks on them every other day like he did Kathy Griffin.
 
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