Greer v. Moon, No. 20-cv-00647 (D. Utah Sep. 16, 2020)

Useful_Mistake said:

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One less hooker traumatized.

Yak-130 Mitten said:

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Sometimes I wonder if I live in a huge tv set like on Truman Show and the entire greer saga is to make me laugh. It takes some rerardation to CC A FUCKING JUDGE WHILE INSULTING OPPOSING LAWYER. I refuse to believe he is a real person.

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It'd be funny if that's what caused the District Court to reply so fast

DJ Grelle said:

It'll probably be dismissed but that doesn't mean the fun will end.
I bet that "State of Nevada vs. Russell Greer" will be the next case for our favorite Tard se.

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NRS 86.263  Filing requirements; fees; notice; regulations.

10.  A person who files with the Secretary of State a list required by subsection 1 or 2 which identifies a manager or managing member with the fraudulent intent of concealing the identity of any person or persons exercising the power or authority of a manager or managing member in furtherance of any unlawful conduct is subject to the penalty set forth in NRS 225.084.

NRS 225.084  Civil liability for filing record which is forged or fraudulently altered, contains false statement of material fact or is being filed in bad faith or to harass or defraud; rights, remedies and penalties cumulative; regulations.

1.  A person shall not willfully file, promote the filing of, or cause to be filed, or attempt or conspire to file, promote the filing of, or cause to be filed, any record in the Office of the Secretary of State if the person has actual knowledge that the record:

(a) Is forged or fraudulently altered;

(b) Contains a false statement of material fact; or

(c) Is being filed in bad faith or for the purpose of harassing or defrauding any person.

2.  Any person who violates this section is liable in a civil action brought pursuant to this section for:

(a) Actual damages caused by each separate violation of this section or $10,000 for each separate violation of this section, whichever is greater;

(b) All costs of bringing and maintaining the action, including investigative expenses and fees for expert witnesses;

(c) Reasonable attorney’s fees; and

(d) Any punitive damages that the facts may warrant.

3.  A civil action may be brought pursuant to this section by:

(a) Any person who is damaged by a violation of this section, including, without limitation, any person who is damaged as the result of an action taken in reliance on a record filed in violation of this section; or

(b) The Attorney General, in the name of the State of Nevada, if the matter is referred to the Attorney General by the Secretary of State and if the Attorney General, after due inquiry, determines that a civil action should be brought pursuant to this section. Any money recovered by the Attorney General pursuant to this paragraph, after deducting all costs and expenses incurred by the Attorney General and the Secretary of State to investigate and act upon the violation, must be deposited in the State General Fund.

4.  For the purposes of this section, each filing of a single record that constitutes a violation of this section shall be deemed to be a separate violation.

5.  The rights, remedies and penalties provided pursuant to this section are cumulative and do not abrogate and are in addition to any other rights, remedies and penalties that may exist at law or in equity, including, without limitation, any criminal penalty that may be imposed pursuant to NRS 205.397 or 239.330.

NRS 205.397  False representation concerning lien against property of public officer or employee, candidate for public office or participant in official proceeding or member of immediate family of such persons; penalties; civil action.

1.  A person shall not file, register or record, or present for filing, registration or recording, in any public office, a lien or other encumbrance against the real or personal property of a public officer, candidate for public office, public employee or participant in an official proceeding, or a member of the immediate family of a public officer, candidate for public office, public employee or participant, which is based on the performance of or failure to perform a duty relating to the office, employment or participation by the public officer, candidate for public office, public employee or participant if the person knows or has reason to know that the lien or encumbrance:

(a) Is forged or fraudulently altered;

(b) Contains a false statement of material fact;

NRS 239.300  Stealing, altering or defacing records, documents or instruments.  A person who:

1.  Steals, embezzles, corrupts, alters, withdraws, falsifies or avoids any record, process, charter, gift, grant, conveyance, bond or contract;

is guilty of a category C felony and shall be punished as provided in NRS 193.130.

NRS 193.130  Categories and punishment of felonies.

1.  Except when a person is convicted of a category A felony, and except as otherwise provided by specific statute, a person convicted of a felony shall be sentenced to a minimum term and a maximum term of imprisonment which must be within the limits prescribed by the applicable statute, unless the statute in force at the time of commission of the felony prescribed a different penalty. The minimum term of imprisonment that may be imposed must not exceed 40 percent of the maximum term imposed.

(c) A category C felony is a felony for which a court shall sentence a convicted person to imprisonment in the state prison for a minimum term of not less than 1 year and a maximum term of not more than 5 years. In addition to any other penalty, the court may impose a fine of not more than $10,000, unless a greater fine is authorized or required by statute.

Useful_Mistake said:

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The Judges same day slap down has terified him.

I'm stealing that one.

Useful_Mistake said:

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Early! Wow!

Wonder if he got a payday loan from one of the scummier scumplaces that do those things.

Useful_Mistake said:

It'd be funny if that's what caused the District Court to reply so fast

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Honestly that's probably what did it. I mean like this is just atrocious behavior by Greer.

DavidS877 said:

I just grabbed the Nevada Secretary Of State form for an LLC application. It does not require the signature of every named individual just the one at the top.

But there is this fun little note:
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I'm a little curious why it hit the system with an obvious lie like "W. H." I expect Mr. Hardin or someone has requested the actual filing documents.

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Prokhor Zakharov said:

I'm almost certain you're not allowed to use initials when listing managing members, which would put the business out of compliance with requirements.

Hopefully Hardin or someone that can bring him information, reading this thread, there is a ton of new information from just one weekend that he should probably review.

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Ha, I was right. Crusty Rusty could be facing a felony charge for what he did.

Useful_Mistake said:

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So now the case continues....if he hadn't paid the fee, would the case have been dropped entirely, giving Greer an easy out? IS there even a way for Greer to make a smooth exit from here? Surely given his behavior and the surmounting evidence against him, a smooth exit would be his best strategy now. My question is, is he continuing this case out of his own pocket out of fear of it being dropped will all fees falling on his head, or is he continuing it believing he may actually get what he wants?

Greer seeming to have a genuine belief he can actually win this case is possibly the funniest thing about it.

Useful_Mistake said:

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Next up: Motion To Strike Every Supplemental Authority Because Paying The Fee Makes Them Moot

Useful_Mistake said:

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Dammit, I just finished updating.

Room Temp Shrimp said:

So now the case continues....if he hadn't paid the fee, would the case have been dropped entirely, giving Greer an easy out? IS there even a way for Greer to make a smooth exit from here? Sure given his behavior and the surmounting evidence against him, a smooth exit would be his best strategy now. My question is, is he continuing this case out of his own pocket out of fear of it being dropped will all fees falling on his head, or is he continuing it believing he may actually get what he wants?

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There are still a number of motions to dismiss and sanctions on the table. Hardin has I think another week or two to respond regarding one of them. The Judge or Judges are probably waiting for those before ruling on all of them.

But here's the kicker. Paying the fee prevents an immediate automatic dismissal. On the question is the Plaintiff currently IFP. But since that ruling it has come out that he has been paying Filing Fees to other courts in other cases going back 3-4 years. While claiming IFP status in this one. That should be a statutorially required dismissal. The Judges don't actually have a choice there. The law is "Shall be Dismissed". And there really is no valid argument for claiming IFP in the Federal Court, while paying fees at the same time to State Courts for Hooker related lawsuits.

My favorite part is that he went out of his way to add a footnote to make it clear how he was doing Russ a massive favor by making it only 1000 to begin with. Sounds like he realizes he fucked up.

Null got the biggest tip he's ever handed to someone

RodgerDodger said:

That should be a statutorially required dismissal. The Judges don't actually have a choice there. The law is "Shall be Dismissed".

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We can keep saying that here, but at some point Hardin needs to put this in a very short motion, with no other distractions or considerations or clever words, and say, "It's time."

Not At All A Lizard said:

My favorite part is that he went out of his way to add a footnote to make it clear how he was doing Russ a massive favor by making it only 1000 to begin with. Sounds like he realizes he fucked up.

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Speaking of which, new poll request: Will Greer make a new filing of some sort, probably a Supplemental Authority, informing District Judge Barlow that ACKCHUALLY, he only has to pay $774.24 or whatever retarded math number he came up with to Null?
* Yes
* No
* IRRELEVANT TO COPYRIGHT

Useful_Mistake said:

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I wonder if he didn't pay this because he thinks he can still win this, but because he's afraid he'll get in even more trouble, trouble beyond the dismissal of the case, if he does not.

Room Temp Shrimp said:

So now the case continues....if he hadn't paid the fee, would the case have been dropped entirely, giving Greer an easy out? IS there even a way for Greer to make a smooth exit from here? Surely given his behavior and the surmounting evidence against him, a smooth exit would be his best strategy now. My question is, is he continuing this case out of his own pocket out of fear of it being dropped will all fees falling on his head, or is he continuing it believing he may actually get what he wants?

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Whether he stayed or left, he still has to pay sanctions.

Necrosan said:

Null got the biggest tip he's ever handed to someone

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This money goes to the court