The Trial of Derek Chauvin - Judgement(?) Day(?) has arrived!

Outcome?

  • Guilty of Murder

    Votes: 75 7.6%

  • Not Guilty of Murder (2nd/3rd), Guilty of Manslaughter

    Votes: 397 40.0%

  • Full Acquittal

    Votes: 221 22.3%

  • Mistrial

    Votes: 299 30.1%
  • Total voters
    992
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Vulva Gape said:
Hope this fucker gets locked up for life.

I don't know how anyone can see him getting acquitted after the prosecution came out and said today that he refused to let EMTs check his pulse when they arrived at the scene after kneeling on him for several minutes. If not murder, definitely manslaughter and criminal negligence.

There were also two independent autopsies done that showed Floyd died of asphyxiation, not an overdose. Funny how people are ignoring that.
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I did a psychic autopsy on him, my readings stated that George died with 50 gallons of white man cop cum in his lungs. I'm pretty sure the cum killed him. Funny how people forget that I was paid 50 million dollars from the BLM to make this autopsy report.


Extreme Aneurysm said:
Stupid nigger, call me a faggot right now! I'LL FUCKING BLOW UP YOUR LOCAL SUPERMARKET AND WATCH YOUR FAT ASS STARVE.
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Faggot.
 
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How long 'til the press doxes the jurors and one of their homes gets burned down by mostly-peaceful protestors exercising their freedom of speech? Remember: burning things is speech (the supreme court said so when they declared burning a flag to be speech), but saying the N-word is violence (which the supreme court has not yet had the chance to prove).
 
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I got 1 BAT on mistrial.

ABC news had a person on today saying this wasn't about Chauvin and Floyd. It's about all the nogs that zigged when they should have zagged. They know it's a show, they want you to know it's a show, and they don't care about the outcome. This is just a set up for more nonsense that people are getting more and more impatient with.
 
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Philosophy Phil said:
I did a psychic autopsy on him, my readings stated that George died with 50 gallons of white man cop cum in his lungs. I'm pretty sure the cum killed him. Funny how people forget that I was paid 50 million dollars from the BLM to make this autopsy report.



Faggot.
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One of the two autopsies he's talking about is the one from the county coroner, I'm pretty sure.
vulgar said:
Floyd should've too tbh
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He tried, nat 1
 
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Techpriest said:
The thing is that the defense also shot themselves slightly in the foot with the pill argument, as they said that Floyd took what he thought was an opiate, shaped like an opiate, marked as an opiate, but wasn't an opiate. It's really a matter of if you think that Floyd OD'd to the point he'd just flat out have died anyway, in which case Chauvin's actions while dumb weren't fatal, or if the overdose was potentially survivable, in which case Chauvin's actions can potentially have reduced the chances of Floyd living to none, which is manslaughter at best, negligent/reckless homicide at worst.
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Floyd had fent in his body when he died, the pills he took were opioids mixed with meth. Check the toxicology report. 3 ng/ml of fent in the bloodstream is enough to kill you, Floyd had 11 ng/ml. There was no way he was getting out of there alive without Narcan and he wasn't in a state to alert the officers. The Floyd autopsy is also very clear that there was no sign of any injury to the neck from the restraint:

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Point out exactly how someone can die by having his circulation/air cut off via a hold without any bruising to the neck.
 
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Catch The Rainbow said:
Floyd had fent in his body when he died, the pills he took were opioids mixed with meth. Check the toxicology report. 3 ng/ml of fent in the bloodstream is enough to kill you, Floyd had 11 ng/ml. There was no way he was getting out of there alive without Narcan and he wasn't in a state to alert the officers. The Floyd autopsy is also very clear that there was no sign of any injury to the neck from the restraint:

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Point out exactly how someone can die by having his circulation/air cut off via a hold without any bruising to the neck.
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Positional Asphyxiation. Even without bruising to the neck, you can kill someone through pressure alone - an artery gets pinched or cut off in the torso, or near the neck/heart, and that can kill you. I've explained that already, multiple times.
 
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Oh boy seeing the reactions of black people in the US to the opening statements is fucking wild. If the Defence did a 20 minute demonstration in court of the knee showing you can still breath fine they still would not believe Floyd wasn't killed by that.

When this ends up being Not Guilty we are gonna see some wild shit.
 
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Techpriest said:
The problem with that is asphyxiation can be caused by an overdose - you just stop breathing. But if he'd taken enough to do that, theoretically, he should have been dead way before Chauvin even checked his pulse.
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Two things that were said today:

First, the last witness said that Chauvin was kneeling on him in a way that would cut circulation but not air supply, and like I said upthread, the prosecution can't both lean on the circulation theory and the positional asphyxiation theory at the same time. The prosecution needs one unimpeachable narrative about what happened.

For the non-Americans, the defense can throw out whatever bullshit they think will stick and that's actually encouraged. The prosecution has to prove guilt but all the defense has to do is create reasonable doubt. Maybe Floyd OD'd, maybe his heart gave out, maybe it was the other officer leaning on his chest. If the jury is left thinking that any of these could have happened, then they have to vote not guilty. The fact that the prosecution is already handwaving about what the cause of death is seems like an own goal.

Second, in the defense's opening statement, they said that they will present as evidence several chewed pills from the back of the squad car. I don't know what kind of time is needed for chewed fentanyl and meth to hit the bloodstream and kill a person, but it was certainly under 15 minutes between the time he chewed the pills and the time he was dead.

(And on edit, the one interesting thing in the prosecution's opening statement is that they said Floyd did a lot of opiods and that wasn't enough to kill him.)
 
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Techpriest said:
They do. Jury protection is taken extremely seriously.
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The jury will be comprised of the new flesh, and the judge will be of the new flesh. The trial of Chauvin is not for transisting George, but failing to transition himself. He is guilty of life, and lazy-oldness.
 
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Techpriest said:
Positional Asphyxiation. Even without bruising to the neck, you can kill someone through pressure alone - an artery gets pinched or cut off in the torso, or near the neck/heart, and that can kill you. I've explained that already, multiple times.
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Read over the autopsy report, they mention nothing like what you're suggesting and they had access to the physical body. This hold is used daily by the IDF and many police forces with no complaints of anything like positional asphyxiation, are you suggesting that Floyd is the only case of this happening?
 
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