The Trial of Derek Chauvin - Judgement(?) Day(?) has arrived!

Outcome?

  • Guilty of Murder

    Votes: 75 7.6%
  • Not Guilty of Murder (2nd/3rd), Guilty of Manslaughter

    Votes: 397 40.0%
  • Full Acquittal

    Votes: 221 22.3%
  • Mistrial

    Votes: 299 30.1%

  • Total voters
    992
  • Poll closed .
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I suppose for y'all, it's all fun and games until it happens to someone you know, then I guess you can show the deathsquads on your punch card how many times you whiteknighted them online. Then maybe they won't send you to the fucking camps they're building out in the desert en masse.
Y'all! The people I know AND care about aren't retards, tho. So I basically have zero chance of having them freak out on the cops hopped on Fentanyl and commit sudoku by dumb.
The ones I know who would do it... well, they can go. In fact, I encourage them.
 
Cops aren't the judge, jury, and executioner. Derek Chauvin chose to pull George Floyd out of his car, he chose to kneel on a handcuffed man's neck while there were 3 other officers and eventually a crowd of people around. Regardless of how they falsified that lab result, Derek Chauvin is a cold-blooded murderer. And anyone carrying water for the state is an enormous cuck.

I suppose for y'all, it's all fun and games until it happens to someone you know, then I guess you can show the deathsquads on your punch card how many times you whiteknighted them online. Then maybe they won't send you to the fucking camps they're building out in the desert en masse.

jesus christ this is a :lunacy: fucking post.

Standard procedure was followed, lab result was legit (where the fuck are you getting that shit?), St. Derek Chauvin did nothing wrong.
 
Second degree unintentional manslaughter is similar to third degree murder, but it doesn't have to rely on a depraved mind/gross indifference to human life. It relies on putting someone else in a situation that has a significant and unreasonable risk to their life, and that situation resulting in their death. Its the only charge that I think would have a chance of sticking under normal circumstances, and also the one with the lowest jailtime. Will Chauvin be able to prove that the situation did not have unreasonable risk? No, I don't think he will.

Chauvin has two aces up his sleeve on this.
1) The hold is part of police procedure, it's what he has been taught to do by the city. Trying to argue that it causes 'significant and unreasonable risk' puts the prosecution in the position where they have to defend training Chauvin to do something they knew is harmful. The counter is easy 'Chauvin trusted the city to train him properly'. They can't even argue about time either because prior cases in that circuit have set 15 minutes as a threshold.

2) This charge still requires that the situation 'result in death' and there isn't any evidence that the restraint killed Floyd. It's likely that if they had managed to get him the squad car (despite his gorilla tantrum) he would have died in the backseat because of all the fentanyl fucking his 85% blocked heart.

None of these charges are appropriate, they all fail to apply from even a cursory examination of the evidence. The only reason these charges were even brought is pure political terrorism.
 
I have professional reference book for forensic medical examination that was used by a real physician for the purposes of forensic autopsy (his hand written notes are in the margins, that type of shit is in there). It was from before DNA testing was practical. The book is before political correctness too lol. @ me if you want me to look up any specific information about ODs or deaths due to compression or strangulation, I'll post pics from the book if it helps discussion move along. may take me a little while to get back to the thread.
 
Cops aren't the judge, jury, and executioner. Derek Chauvin chose to pull George Floyd out of his car, he chose to kneel on a handcuffed man's neck while there were 3 other officers and eventually a crowd of people around. Regardless of how they falsified that lab result, Derek Chauvin is a cold-blooded murderer. And anyone carrying water for the state is an enormous cuck.

I suppose for y'all, it's all fun and games until it happens to someone you know, then I guess you can show the deathsquads on your punch card how many times you whiteknighted them online. Then maybe they won't send you to the fucking camps they're building out in the desert en masse.
Have you ever noticed that it's almost never someone that legit has never gotten into any legal trouble in their lives, but it's almost always someone that has? It's because they're pieces of shit dude, and shit attracts flies. Pretending this hard that if it was anyone other than a guy sperging the fuck out and loaded to the gills with fentanyl and meth, they would have died also. I'm not a shill for the state but I'm tired of blacks pretending that they're put upon by the state.
 
Imagine doing your job and the druggie your arresting just straight up overdoses and next thing you know, your worst than hitler and everyone is acting like you just nuked a entire nation just because you dared put a knee on the druggie even though you do it so many times before just to detain them

Cops who cheat the system and work with criminals are more accepted that this dude right now, Jesus fucking christ
 
Cops aren't the judge, jury, and executioner. Derek Chauvin chose to pull George Floyd out of his car, he chose to kneel on a handcuffed man's neck while there were 3 other officers and eventually a crowd of people around. Regardless of how they falsified that lab result, Derek Chauvin is a cold-blooded murderer. And anyone carrying water for the state is an enormous cuck.

I suppose for y'all, it's all fun and games until it happens to someone you know, then I guess you can show the deathsquads on your punch card how many times you whiteknighted them online. Then maybe they won't send you to the fucking camps they're building out in the desert en masse.
Don't worry I hate cops and black people so I won't whiteknight for either of them unlike you
 
Imagine doing your job and the druggie your arresting just straight up overdoses and next thing you know, your worst than hitler and everyone is acting like you just nuked a entire nation just because you dared put a knee on the druggie even though you do it so many times before just to detain them
I've said this in some other thread, but I'd rather be hated but think for myself than be loved and have my standards come from the societal hivemind
 
What the fuck is with Blacks and not following instructions?
Patrice O'neal had a rather profound discussion about this on OandA back in the day. It's been a few years but the gist of what he said was how Blacks will never actually be free and able to develop themselves as a unique people until they stop living their entire lives as a literal negative mirror to White people. It made complete sense to me and went a long way to explain their current behavior and ills. Blacks don't really have music of their own, they sample shit from the past and co-opt it as their own. Their clothes are shitted up and saggy to look antithetical to Whitey and to celebrate Prison culture. They hate schooling, work, and planning for the future because that is the shit that Whitey does. It hasn't done their race any favors over the decades.
 
2) This charge still requires that the situation 'result in death'
You're saying that he didn't die if you imply that theres a requirement lacking here.

I think its pretty likely that no matter what the police did, he would have died anyways.

Saying that, the manslaughter charge is going to rely did Chauvin on placing Floyd in an unreasonable situation that could have contributed to his death, and without a clear and universally agreed upon cause of death- its going to stick. If it was 100% the fentanyl which killed him, and the situation he was placed in couldn't have contributed in any way, he'd be safe there.

They're going to likely add in "towards the end of the knee-on-neck procedure, what would have been appropriate was to switch to a different hold. Not doing so created unreasonable risk which may have contributed to his death and evidences negligence on Chauvin's part to mitigate the situation to the best of his ability". Chauvin is not going to be able to prove to the jury that he was unable to switch from the knee-on-neck procedure 3/4ths of the way in. The prosecutors are going to use witnesses to "prove" that he should have noticed that Floyd's breathing was getting more shallow, which the jury will almost certainly buy. They will then argue that, while it may have been procedure (eliminating 2nd degree murder), continuing said procedure past x point when there are other options Chauvin could have employed (which they will likely successfully argue), evidences that situation with unreasonable risk.
 
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