I think the answer to that is, yes.
Yeah, well, theyre also cops and I do hold them to a reasonable standard. If it becomes a situation where it does seem like a guy is choking out- even if it turns out that there was nothing that could be done, Id like to know that the police are at least going to try and do what they can to mitigate things. Maybe moving him to an upright position would have been better for better air flow. Considering the video has him in multiple positions, and finally the knee-on-neck much to his detriment, there does seem to be room for adapting to the situation- which police need to be able to do. Other cops saying 'maybe we should switch positions' is the understatement of the century.
I think he would have died because of the fentanyl, but this trial is less about that, more about did Chauvin do things properly.
I agree with you here 100% on the 2nd degree unintentional murder and 3rd degree murder, but disagree on 2nd degree manslaughter. I think I highlighted the difference between the three way earlier in this thread, but what happened here could fit that, because (and how its different from unintentional murder), the nuance for 2nd degree manslaughter is "did you put the person in a situation that could have contributed to his death. Because cause of death is a mix up, and nothing is going to be agreed upon past it being a combination of fent, adrenaline, stress, a bad heart condition, and constricted airway- this will stick. If I'm having a spazz attack and a dudes knee is on my neck, even if I, myself, am a POS, I want to at least now that a cop is going to have the sense to adjust positions relative to that.
The notion that "cops cant switch positions", "He was too strong, even though he was being handled by 4 officers total in different ways earlier", "He forfeited his life by being a violent criminal", "there wasn't anything the cops could do, so why should they have attempted to" just seem like a lot of copes.
The 2nd degree manslaughter is what plays on willful negligence & professional misconduct.
I think he was to a certain point, but heres the thing. Hes got a massive crowd yelling at him, people chimping out and filming him, a dude who was belligerent before and then has suddenly gotten progressively more and more limp. I think he was trained enough, and then mentally froze and did not respond in an appropriate way as a result. Something the BLM crowd isn't going to like to hear is, know what is needed here? Better/more training, more money for the police.
I think his superiors have the knee-on-neck as an option, but what I am pretty confident in is that the parameters probably would not include "knee-on-neck, and even if the suspect goes limp, don't take your knee off his neck".
Relates to the previous statement, but him freezing is on him. Its not murder, I don't think he's a vicious person, but he def needed to act better in this situation.
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