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Marvin said:
So, for example, it wouldn't be a "Chris thing" for Chris to refuse to try a month making $5k/month. He'd leap at that opportunity. What would be the "Chris thing" is for him to have the stress of working 40 hour weeks wear down on him, and for him to bitch constantly about work. The $5k/month would start to look like an entitlement, and not something he's actively earning. His attention to detail might wear down, and eventually he might get fired for fucking up, probably for getting exasperated and bitching at his boss.

And then when all's said and done, he'd be more miserable, he'll have spent the money (albeit on some expensive electronics, that he could later pawn off) and more entitled.

That's how his attempt to monetize Sonichu went.
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When he was selling Sonichu merch, he seemed to dissassociate people giving him money with him giving them stuff to a remarkable degree. A lot of his "sales pitches" were framed as him needing the money and asking for charity. After people gave him the money he was constantly irritated that he had to send them the merch.

A few years ago, I was helping out at a charity. Some guy had donated $100, and we had sent him a thank you letter and a cheap plastic keychain with our logo on it with his receipt. The keychain broke in the mail, and the guy called up and was furious about it. I remember being quite confused and somewhat offended by his anger. I think Chris' gut reaction to complaints about his Sonichu merch business is similar to how I felt.

I wonder if, in the hypothetical world where he got a job, he would feel the same way. Would he see it as the employers were just giving him a paycheck as a gift to help out a poor autistic guy who needs it? And if he is not feeling up to working, it is very mean of them to take back that gift.

I agree that it could happen, but I think the sequence of events might make it less pronounced than his merch buisness. When he sold stuff on eBay or Etsy he got the money, then he did the work. With a normal job, where he did the work and then got the money, it might be easier for him to fully absorb the direct exchange of work for money aspect of it. I am sure he would bitch and complain and slack off, but I don't know if there would be the same "why can't my employer just give me the money for nothing" attitude of entitlement.
 
I actually think the only thing that could help Chris "become more normal" at this stage would be some kind of employment. He needs something to pull him out of this autistic swamp made of toys, children's entertainment and tumblrisms he lives in, some kind of purpose out of his house, some tasks to fulfill.
It would probably have to be supervised employment (at least at first) in a semi-controlled environment. I just did some googling, there are services in Virginia that help the disabled find employment:
https://www.vadsa.org/
https://www.vadars.org/essp/default.htm
http://easyaccess.virginia.gov/employment.shtml
http://www.viaschool.org/

Needless to say, CWC won't be calling any of these services any time soon. AFAIK he hasn't even tried to find a job, he hasn't even sent out a single application. He'll just sink into his swamp deeper and deeper and become more deranged all the while. *sigh*
 
timtommy said:
When he was selling Sonichu merch, he seemed to dissassociate people giving him money with him giving them stuff to a remarkable degree. A lot of his "sales pitches" were framed as him needing the money and asking for charity. After people gave him the money he was constantly irritated that he had to send them the merch.

A few years ago, I was helping out at a charity. Some guy had donated $100, and we had sent him a thank you letter and a cheap plastic keychain with our logo on it with his receipt. The keychain broke in the mail, and the guy called up and was furious about it. I remember being quite confused and somewhat offended by his anger. I think Chris' gut reaction to complaints about his Sonichu merch business is similar to how I felt.

I wonder if, in the hypothetical world where he got a job, he would feel the same way. Would he see it as the employers were just giving him a paycheck as a gift to help out a poor autistic guy who needs it? And if he is not feeling up to working, it is very mean of them to take back that gift.

I agree that it could happen, but I think the sequence of events might make it less pronounced than his merch buisness. When he sold stuff on eBay or Etsy he got the money, then he did the work. With a normal job, where he did the work and then got the money, it might be easier for him to fully absorb the direct exchange of work for money aspect of it. I am sure he would bitch and complain and slack off, but I don't know if there would be the same "why can't my employer just give me the money for nothing" attitude of entitlement.
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I agree, it wouldn't be immediate.

I think his attitude would degrade over time, as he got used to the comfort of the money.

Although, I don't think that would guarantee he'd fuck it up.
 
Marvin said:
Although, I don't think that would guarantee he'd fuck it up.
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I think that depends on how you define "fuck it up", which probably mostly depends on the expectations of his immediate supervisors.

My sense is that because of his general timidity, he wouldn't mouth off or openly refuse to do something. If assigned a task, he would probably at least pick away at it in a half-assed way. If his supervisor is ok with that, then he could be fine.

But there are all kinds of things which could happen, which a supervisor might object to. His normal fuck-ups would probably be more frequent than the average worker (I seem to remember something about him not double bagging the trash and causing a problem at Wendy's). He is likely to whine and try to get out of tasks with long-winded and incoherent excuses. He is likely to rub coworkers and maybe customers the wrong way from time to time. He is probably always going to do the minimum he is explicitly asked to do. He is not likely to ever get super motivated, so if you need an extra push from him because you are behind on something, it is not likely to happen. He is likely to bitch about you on social media, possibly in a way that gets you Julay-ed.

Some supervisors would be ok with these issues and Chris being in general a below average worker. Some are reluctant to fire people who aren't major problems, particuarly if they have some sort of disability, like Chris. Others just aren't particularly strict or motivated people themselves. Other supervisors wouldn't put up with him, for no other reason than he is kind of annoying and fairly shitty at his job.
 
timtommy said:
I think that depends on how you define "fuck it up", which probably mostly depends on the expectations of his immediate supervisors.

My sense is that because of his general timidity, he wouldn't mouth off or openly refuse to do something. If assigned a task, he would probably at least pick away at it in a half-assed way. If his supervisor is ok with that, then he could be fine.

But there are all kinds of things which could happen, which a supervisor might object to. His normal fuck-ups would probably be more frequent than the average worker (I seem to remember something about him not double bagging the trash and causing a problem at Wendy's). He is likely to whine and try to get out of tasks with long-winded and incoherent excuses. He is likely to rub coworkers and maybe customers the wrong way from time to time. He is probably always going to do the minimum he is explicitly asked to do. He is not likely to ever get super motivated, so if you need an extra push from him because you are behind on something, it is not likely to happen. He is likely to bitch about you on social media, possibly in a way that gets you Julay-ed.

Some supervisors would be ok with these issues and Chris being in general a below average worker. Some are reluctant to fire people who aren't major problems, particuarly if they have some sort of disability, like Chris. Others just aren't particularly strict or motivated people themselves. Other supervisors wouldn't put up with him, for no other reason than he is kind of annoying and fairly shitty at his job.
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Well by "fuck it up", I mean get fired.

And yeah, He wouldn't mouth off. He'd whine a lot. They might be anticipating that, and just tolerate it, depending on how Chris landed the job. (ie through a tard placement program)
 
Marvin said:
Well by "fuck it up", I mean get fired.

And yeah, He wouldn't mouth off. He'd whine a lot. They might be anticipating that, and just tolerate it, depending on how Chris landed the job. (ie through a tard placement program)
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I read about a few of them online, wouldn't they just be like "If you're taking away from a bottom line, get out!"? I can imagine Chris whining, being told to get back to work..........Chris would work for a time, but an hour later, he might start up again. Couldn't they just find someone with a similar disability to replace him with? Someone that wanted to work?
 
Mariposa Electrique said:
I read about a few of them online, wouldn't they just be like "If you're taking away from a bottom line, get out!"? I can imagine Chris whining, being told to get back to work..........Chris would work for a time, but an hour later, he might start up again. Couldn't they just find someone with a similar disability to replace him with? Someone that wanted to work?
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Chris does what he's told. Publicly, we don't really see the tedious work Chris does at Barb's command. Like running errands and cleaning up the dog's shit and stuff like that.

It's the same thing with him paying bills. We only see the toys and the begging (after Barb's taken his money to pay her bills). He's not amazing at either of those things, like on normal person level. But if he was in a tard placement program, he's pretty middle-of-the-road by their standards.

So yeah, Chris would work at his stupid tard job for 5-6 hours straight, doing more or less average tard work, and then go home to bitch incessantly.
 
Agree with pretty much everything that's been said with regard to Chris's disingenuous excuse making and how his employment would pan out if by some miracle he got a job.

I will, however, pipe up a small defence of Chris inasmuch as I think he probably has a moderate case of depression and zero sense of how to deal with it. Everything else about Chris means he'll always focus on the downsides of having to get off his ass and work, but his depression adds the complication that he also can't appreciate the upsides.
 
Rich Lee Konsumov said:
I will, however, pipe up a small defence of Chris inasmuch as I think he probably has a moderate case of depression and zero sense of how to deal with it. Everything else about Chris means he'll always focus on the downsides of having to get off his ass and work, but his depression adds the complication that he also can't appreciate the upsides.
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He's got the fail-proof binaural beats system.
Chris' mental health issues go way beyond depression, tbh.
 
Marvin said:
Yeah, we squished the tugboat excuse (by the way, it's SSDI, which is a different program from SSI, with different rules; the difference doesn't matter here, but just for the record...) pretty early on.
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It's odd that Chris is so clueless about his tugboat that he calls it by the wrong program. I know he just gets the money by direct deposit, but SSDI reviews cases every 5-7 years, so he should still know what it's called. Maybe Bob filled out the paperwork last time.

The eligibility for SSDI says he'll continue getting it as long as he's disabled or unmarried. I wonder would happen if Chris was told he'll have to choose between his tugboat or marriage. Although, I guess his "stay-at-home while the wife works" idea covers that.

Chris strongly believes himself to be helpless. He thinks the suggestions people offer him are rigged, and no one in real life could make that succeed. So when you offer those suggestions, Chris thinks you're fucking with him.
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Does he think that for the advice his FB friends keep giving him, like this? Is that why he never bothers replying?
 
The American Hedgehog said:
The eligibility for SSDI says he'll continue getting it as long as he's disabled or unmarried. I wonder would happen if Chris was told he'll have to choose between his tugboat or marriage. Although, I guess his "stay-at-home while the wife works" idea covers that.
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Iiiiiiiiiinteresting.
The American Hedgehog said:
Does he think that for the advice his FB friends keep giving him, like this? Is that why he never bothers replying?
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Well, he probably thinks she's naive or doesn't realize how hard life is for Chris or something. But yeah, pretty much.
 
The American Hedgehog said:
The eligibility for SSDI says he'll continue getting it as long as he's disabled or unmarried. I wonder would happen if Chris was told he'll have to choose between his tugboat or marriage. Although, I guess his "stay-at-home while the wife works" idea covers that.
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I've seen plenty of women on SSDI keep boyfriends around for years because they don't want to lose their benefits. If there's a woman out there for Chris, she either lives in the ghetto or the trailer park.
 
Rich Lee Konsumov said:
Agree with pretty much everything that's been said with regard to Chris's disingenuous excuse making and how his employment would pan out if by some miracle he got a job.

I will, however, pipe up a small defence of Chris inasmuch as I think he probably has a moderate case of depression and zero sense of how to deal with it. Everything else about Chris means he'll always focus on the downsides of having to get off his ass and work, but his depression adds the complication that he also can't appreciate the upsides.
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I think Chris might also have an anxiety disorder, which is common in people with autism. Strong anxiety issues can make working a job difficult or impossible, even for people that do want a job. Even if Chris wasn't lazy this may be a roadblock for him.
 
Stephanie Bustcakes said:
I think Chris might also have an anxiety disorder, which is common in people with autism. Strong anxiety issues can make working a job difficult or impossible, even for people that do want a job. Even if Chris wasn't lazy this may be a roadblock for him.
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Anxiety is not common for people with autism, it's a result of over-stimulation and being unable to fit into society. I agree that Chris developed anxiety after being massively trolled, treated like crap in High-School, and having so many damn run-ins with the jerk-cops, but Chris was not inherently anxious before he tried to bend society to his will.

The Lizard Queen said:
How does not getting a job relate to being female?
No women in the workforce for Chris, I guess.
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Even as a tranny, they're all the rage now in days.
Maybe Chris is worried he will get sexually harrassed.
 
I Wonder if Barb is now actively encouraging Chris to not get a job like Bob eventually started doing.
 
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