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Datiko said:
Chris's and Barb's deaths are not likely to occur from anything related to moving home.
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Black mold is enough to condemn a residence, and it truly isn't a livable environment. While in the Marines, I saw a lot of really shitty living conditions (including a frozen, 5ft deep hole i dug with an 8in shovel), but the only guarantee that you would get moved to a different barracks was if your room had black mold. More often than not, it will end up in your ventilation system, which is pretty bad.
 
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Thetan said:
What I don't understand is how can a contractor certify a place is liveable without having some sort of agency (say public health or dept. of building codes) perform an inspection and verify this to be true. It seems like there should be some sort of oversight.
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In most of rural America, there's not any oversight for what you're talking about, or it varies from county to county. There is no department, no regulations, no inspections requirement or building standard.

In the rural county in Oklahoma that I grew up in, there were no building codes or regulations of any kind outside city limits. You could buy land, buy materials, build your own house/shed/barn, and get it hooked up to utilities. You could do what you wanted without any red tape of any kind. It was nice. It's probably the same way in Greene County VA. It's a shame that people like the Chandlers take it as an opportunity to live in a toxic garbage dump.

EDIT: Even outside city limits, if you were constructing a building for commercial or public use, there were regulations, just not for construction that was both on private property and for personal/family use.
 
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Honestly, hearing about the conditions they're going to be living in really worries me. Regardless of how much I know about Chris, I don't like to hear about old ladies living in shitty situations like that. But I guess what really bothers me is even if I or anyone else tried to help them out from afar, whatever money donated would be squandered and spent on something like a new car or more crap to hoard in the house. I live in Colorado though so I guess there's not much I can do about it. Sorry for OT, but since we're all talking about the house now...
 
skyraider91 said:
I don't know what more to say. I just can't put it into words how disgusting, smelly, unsanitary, filthy, and toxic conditions are going to be for the Chandlers at 14 BC when they move back in. I don't think that they'll die or anything like that, but I wouldn't be surprised if they see immediate health effects after they move back in.
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Because they weren't living in disgusting, smelly, unsanitary, filthy, and toxic conditions before?
 
limecouch said:
Honestly, hearing about the conditions they're going to be living in really worries me. Regardless of how much I know about Chris, I don't like to hear about old ladies living in shitty situations like that. But I guess what really bothers me is even if I or anyone else tried to help them out from afar, whatever money donated would be squandered and spent on something like a new car or more crap to hoard in the house. I live in Colorado though so I guess there's not much I can do about it. Sorry for OT, but since we're all talking about the house now...
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The Chandlers (mainly Barb) have created their own hell on earth for themselves. They are two mentally ill people, stubborn and unwilling to change, and none of us can save them from themselves.
 
skyraider91 said:
The Chandlers (mainly Barb) have created their own hell on earth for themselves. They are two mentally ill people, stubborn and unwilling to change, and none of us can save them from themselves.
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I know. Believe me, I know. I have relatives like that. It doesn't stop me from feeling sorry for them.
 
skyraider91 said:
If you thought 14 Branchland Court was bad before, 14 Branchland Court v2.0 is going to be really, really, fucked up. It's a gutted, burnt out, rotting hulk of a building, and some shady contractors are going to do the bare minimum to make it "livable" again, turn on the utilities, and the Chandlers are going to move all their garbage back into a 14 Branchland Court that's even further dilapidated than it was a year ago.

You know how at the bottom of a pile of wet leaves, there's a bunch of leaves that are black and rotting, covered in maggots and worms? Imagine moving into a house that smelled like that, living 24/7 in a dark, enclosed rotting garbage pit. To make matters worse, everything that's left of 14 Branchland Court is covered in a black, sooty toxic residue left over from plastic and other crap that burned in the fire. Barb is fucking insane to be moving back in to a garbage dump horde house that burned for two hours straight, but not only is she doing it, she's only having the minimal repairs necessary done. The conditions there were so bad that Bob was eaten alive by parasites even as far back as 2011, but they've gotten worse each year since then.

I don't know what more to say. I just can't put it into words how disgusting, smelly, unsanitary, filthy, and toxic conditions are going to be for the Chandlers at 14 BC when they move back in. I don't think that they'll die or anything like that, but I wouldn't be surprised if they see immediate health effects after they move back in.

I'd rather live in a jail cell than at 14 Branchland Court. I'm not trying to A-Log here, I'm just appalled and telling it how it is.
Barb is fucking nuts.
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Wouldn't Barb rather live in a newer house? Or rent an apartment?

Or is her primary motivation in moving back to 14 B. the fact that she will have multiple rooms to cram her hoard into?
 
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Holdek said:
Wouldn't Barb rather live in a newer house? Or rent an apartment?

Or is her primary motivation in moving back to 14 B. the fact that she will have multiple rooms to cram her hoard into?
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14BC is the only true home for Barb. No matter its condition, it is merely another piece of the horde to her, much like Chris in a way.
 
Holdek said:
Wouldn't Barb rather live in a newer house? Or rent an apartment?

Or is her primary motivation in moving back to 14 B. the fact that she will have multiple rooms to cram her hoard into?
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There's a bit of hoarder psychology that comes into play here. Barb probably has the mentality that what is familiar is safest and best, even if it's clearly (to someone else) dangerous, unsanitary, what have you. It especially gets worse as hoarders get older.
 
skyraider91 said:
If you thought 14 Branchland Court was bad before, 14 Branchland Court v2.0 is going to be really, really, fucked up. It's a gutted, burnt out, rotting hulk of a building, and some shady contractors are going to do the bare minimum to make it "livable" again, turn on the utilities, and the Chandlers are going to move all their garbage back into a 14 Branchland Court that's even further dilapidated than it was a year ago.

You know how at the bottom of a pile of wet leaves, there's a bunch of leaves that are black and rotting, covered in maggots and worms? Imagine moving into a house that smelled like that, living 24/7 in a dark, enclosed rotting garbage pit. To make matters worse, everything that's left of 14 Branchland Court is covered in a black, sooty toxic residue left over from plastic and other crap that burned in the fire. Barb is fucking insane to be moving back in to a garbage dump horde house that burned for two hours straight, but not only is she doing it, she's only having the minimal repairs necessary done. The conditions there were so bad that Bob was eaten alive by parasites even as far back as 2011, but they've gotten worse each year since then.

I don't know what more to say. I just can't put it into words how disgusting, smelly, unsanitary, filthy, and toxic conditions are going to be for the Chandlers at 14 BC when they move back in. I don't think that they'll die or anything like that, but I wouldn't be surprised if they see immediate health effects after they move back in.

I'd rather live in a jail cell than at 14 Branchland Court. I'm not trying to A-Log here, I'm just appalled and telling it how it is.
Barb is fucking nuts.
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Just wondering, is she using most or all of the payout that she did receive to repair 14 BC and it's not going very far because it's such a small sum, or is she just diverting a significant amount of it to other things (i.e. that new car they just bought) and spending as little as possible on the actual repairs? The picture you're painting of 14 BC's current state is pretty bleak but I'd have to imagine that if they poured enough money into it they could make it reasonably livable again.
 
The space is likely going to be tighter, too, depending on what's damaged and what gets fixed. It may well be more cluttered than it was before the fire, and if a fire breaks out again at that point, I'm going to be really scared for their safety.
 
skyraider91 said:
"Local Health Codes"? In Ruckersville, VA? The town is a redneck shithole inhabited by ignorant, bigoted hillbillies. (no offense, Ruckersvillian) It's so bad, the Chandlers don't even stick out too much. People from most parts of the world/United States look at 14 Branchland Court and say, "OMG what about the health department", "health codes", etc, they're not getting it. Nobody in the local government gives a fuck about the Chandlers or 14 Branchland Court. When the first house tour video came out in 2009, the local health department (which has 2 people as staff and is based out of a trailer) did not care at all. Ruckersville is so trashy, that the Chandlers don't even stick out that much. Yes, really. The Chandlers live in a trailer trash Mecca, not in Beverly Hills, New York City, or some other cosmopolitan location. If the Chandlers want to move back into a toxic environment, no one will stop them.
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skyraider91 said:
In most of rural America, there's not any oversight for what you're talking about, or it varies from county to county. There is no department, no regulations, no inspections requirement or building standard.

In the rural county in Oklahoma that I grew up in, there were no building codes or regulations of any kind outside city limits. You could buy land, buy materials, build your own house/shed/barn, and get it hooked up to utilities. You could do what you wanted without any red tape of any kind. It was nice. It's probably the same way in Greene County VA. It's a shame that people like the Chandlers take it as an opportunity to live in a toxic garbage dump.

EDIT: Even outside city limits, if you were constructing a building for commercial or public use, there were regulations, just not for construction that was both on private property and for personal/family use.
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Pretty much this. The way local governments in Virginia are structured, unless you live in a city such as Charlottesville, Falls Church, etc, then you are in an unincorporated part of a county. Essentially, county government and equivalents are the lowest level. Ruckersville is a Census-designated place, and it's only local government is Greene County.

Greene county has almost 19,000 people. It is tiny. It is incredibly rural, and only has a small tax base. Resources are incredibly stretched out. While there are building codes, as can be seen below, there probably won't be much of a ruckus if they can pass the bare minimum, which, from what has been said, they are sticking to.

http://www.gcva.us/dpts/insp/default.htm
 
Well this is bad news I was hoping Fatty would at least have somewhere to live once Barb kicked off. Now he's really fucked.

I wonder if he understands what is going on or is Lego and eBay taking up all of his attention?
 
Well this is the saddest update I've read in a while. *sigh*

I wonder if Chris realizes something is wrong. He may be dumb, but he's not half as crazy as Barb.
 
CuriousBystander said:
Well this is the saddest update I've read in a while. *sigh*

I wonder if Chris realizes something is wrong. He may be dumb, but he's not half as crazy as Barb.
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I doubt Chris would understand something is wrong until after they return to 14BC. Even then, I don't think he has the ability to understand the dangers of the situation and his focus would be more on the discomfort he experiences.
 
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