Burned Docs 14BC Pics 08JUN14
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Picklechu
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FTFY.
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To be fair, the amount of nuclear weapons actually used in the war contributed a lot to that. Each nation emptied their silos at each other and completely destroyed pretty much everything. There's nothing to grow if extreme heat completely erased it from existence
That's the reason why the Vaults were equipped with large caches of seeds.
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In the original shots of 14BLC, the big pile of rubble is apparently on the right, exiting the front door.
That is gone. So, does that mean someone wheelbarrowed the old right-side pile away? Scavengers? The a/c in the side kitchen window is gone, the discarded burned door and that old yellow frig formerly in the utility room makes it seem like Something is being done.
Demolition crews don't remove junk before demolishing, they just move up on it and claw everything down
Then front-end loaders come in, dump into dumptrucks, and it gets hauled off.
My thought is, the plan is to reconstruct the house, UNLESS Barb delays the proceedings too long bc of her untreated mental illness issues.
Hoarding was officially added to the DSM V last year, as a treatable mental illness. But that's another thread.
Sad to see it now.
Bob tried. RIP.
That is gone. So, does that mean someone wheelbarrowed the old right-side pile away? Scavengers? The a/c in the side kitchen window is gone, the discarded burned door and that old yellow frig formerly in the utility room makes it seem like Something is being done.
Demolition crews don't remove junk before demolishing, they just move up on it and claw everything down
Then front-end loaders come in, dump into dumptrucks, and it gets hauled off.
My thought is, the plan is to reconstruct the house, UNLESS Barb delays the proceedings too long bc of her untreated mental illness issues.
Hoarding was officially added to the DSM V last year, as a treatable mental illness. But that's another thread.
Sad to see it now.
Bob tried. RIP.
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That one drunken night at the bar screwed you over didn't it Bob?
Hanky panky was not worth.
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Trick question - it was all in his briefs.
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Fine, so imagine a ween trying to record in Chris' old room, carefully setting his camera in the same angle Chris had, getting ready to make his rant, breathing in...only to have the floor cave under him, all caught in video. Smutley did say it'd be hysterical.
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Isn't that how the monster in the movie Monster House was created?
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It's not odd. It's Chris, and using elbow-greased strength on a wheelbarrow is HARD WORK
No they don't. There's usually a lot of recyclable material in a house that can be removed and resold, even a house as neglected as 14 BLC. And a house that old would need a thorough inspection for lead paint and asbestos before it could be torn down (the presence of lead paint might explain a lot...). A lot of the hoard would have to be removed before the inspection could be done, though. They'd also need to disconnect all the utilities--disconnect, not just turn off.
You'll know what's going to happen before it happens, but if you see utility trucks out there cutting the mains you'll know it's about to come down.
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Chris can stand for the ultimate anti-love-shy display.
Have sex and this might happen to you!
slep
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A good theory, but with all that fire and water damage plus it being left with no power/water/heating/AC since last Winter, the cost of bringing it back up to Occupancy has to be astronomical. It's a circa late-60's/early 70's Split-level house that the Chandlers couldn't even sell during the housing heydays of the 90's.
Depending how ironclad the insurance policy is, they may just declare the house a total loss and cut Barb a check for it's seriously hoard and bug-infested value. I doubt Barb has Rob bell representing her on this, so how long can she keep stonewalling the inevitable?
And keep in mind the immense jungle that's growing around it. If they were planning on doing an overhaul of it, they would have cleared all that growth to make room for the renovation crews. It looks more like right now they're just tossing stuff out in order to reach the drywalls and strip it of it's plumbing and other metals before bringing in the bulldozer and raze the whole place. House, garden shed, Gazebo, and Patti's doghouse and all.
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Which would mean Chris got that wrong too. Any fool knows you stash bodies in chest freezers so they don't keep falling out on you every time you open the door.
Yeah, we've been over that. Aluminum is not necessarily a fire risk, but only if the electrician and homeowner know how to work with its limitations. What are the odds of Chris or Barb knowing that? Also aluminum wiring does have an attraction for thieves, it's just not as profitable to them as copper.
There's a very slight chance 14BLC might have been piped with PVC / CPVC (it's too old for PEX), but the supply pipes are almost definitely copper tubing, and that's absolutely something copper thieves would want to get their mitts on. Nice, clean copper tubing is worth a fuckload more than inconveniently plastic sheathed NM wire. I don't see any signs of pipe or wire removal in these pics though, just barbage. Maybe the ghost of Patti is keeping the copper thieves away.
Nah. Most of the framing itself is probably still pretty sound. The fittings and fixtures are toast, as is the wallboard, but those would need to be stripped before repair anyways. From the outside shots I've seen, a large part of the roof is fucked (obviously), and there's probably significant (though repairable) damage to some core framing, but for the most part the framing will just need a hell of a lot of mold remediation. 14BLC is probably still recoverable, even after all this, except for two things: Chris and Barb.
The pile at the front door, which probably came out the front door, has been cleared. As barbage was removed through the front door, access to Chris' bedroom was opened. The boards over his window have been pulled, letting barbage be removed from the building through that instead of carrying it through the building to the front door. That's why it's piling up under that window in these pictures.
Of a sort, yes. Three guesses what their names are.
Well it is the beginning of the warm season, and scavengers like to keep cool in their rental houses as well.
Actually, they do. There are all sorts of rules and laws about that, most of which stem from landfills wanting to know what's being dumped in them beforehand. They just don't ever take this fucking long to do it. All it takes is a day or two at most, usually, for a clean out crew to have a house completely stripped inside. At the very least the copper would be stripped first.
Nah. This is odd because some of it is obviously the work of Chris and Barb, but other things point to a hired clean out crew also being on site at some point. There's a lot here that is just plain stupid, but also a lot that makes no sense, even for Chris. Can you see Chris or Barb wantonly chucking their precious treasures out a second story window when they've been so careful to recover so much of it (like melted lego witches)? Why would Chris or Barb go to the effort of putting things in the dumpster only to pull them back out again after? But if it was a paid clean up crew doing that, why is it being done so slowly and badly?
They usually schedule the utility crews right before the 'dozers show up though. With only monthly updates we may well miss that. We're more likely to catch something like signs of the copper being professionally stripped out etc. That's something I've been looking for in these updates.
Except we should have seen drywall etc. in the dumpster for that by now as well were they planning on leveling it. To be honest, I don't know what the fuck they think they are doing there.
More and more, though, I think this is the most likely way things will play out: The insurance company is going to simply cut Barb a final offer check, run out the clock on their rental payments (they can't have very many more months), and then walk away to let Barb deal with 14BLC (or not). And can anyone blame them? Barb doesn't have the wherewithal (mental or fiscal - especially the way the Chandlers waste money) to rebuild the place, but there's no way in hell she's going to have it demolished either, so most likely she'll just leave it to moulder while she and Chris move from their current luxurious insurance rented home into some extremely low rent, shitty accommodation barely better than the ruins of 14BLC. When and if 14BLC is demolished, it will most likely be under orders from the county (I don't remember if Ruckersville is incorporated, but I believe not). Barb will almost definitely stop paying property taxes on 14BLC when it's obvious to her they're never moving back into it, so eventually it will be seized, at which point it will almost definitely be razed (assuming it hasn't been already). The lot will be sold for the land value with the proceeds going to pay the back taxes and demolition fees, and whatever pittance is left will be Barb's to piss away.
Yes, that's a really depressing prediction, and yes, there are all sorts of ways Chris and Barb can avoid it (starting with not being Chris and Barb), but I don't see anything in any of the pictures so far to indicate things aren't going to happen that way.
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are you fucking serious
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I hope someone gets the destruction of 14 BLC on camera.
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They'd need a much longer time-lapse video for that.
MysticMisty
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I had a dream featuring that once. He even tried to flush it down the church toilet and fucked up the plumbing.
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These pictures are like from the documentary Life After Man(Child).
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I was just talking about the state of Chris's house with a friend of mine, and I suddenly realized something that may be kind of critical. I'd almost forgotten that 14BLC is one of those houses where the downstairs is actually partly underground (I think someone in the thread called it "split-level"?) to keep the lower rooms cooler. With that being the case, would that then mean that when the house was doused by firehoses, the water had nowhere to leak out and was just left to pool in the bottom? If that's the case, it may not have been quite as bad of a problem at the time since the fire happened when the polar vortexes were deep-freezing everything, but that time has long since passed. Is it possible that there's been standing water in the downstairs for months now? I don't know how well the outside heat would've been able to reach it to evaporate it (after all, the house is designed to keep that level cooled off), but if it did, would that also mean it just made it really humid inside 14BLC and saturated everything else with even more moisture as the heat rises?
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Probably not. As a house built int he 70s, 14 BLC should have floor drains and a sump, so there would be multiple avenues for any water to escape. It's also on a crest between two small creeks (one north of Branchland, the other south of Westwood) so there shouldn't be any issue with flooding or drainage.
The house is also on public water, which probably means that the water table there is fairly low. Most places around Ruckersville still use wells because it's cheaper than running water lines out into the boonies. The water would have had lots of places to go.
So all the barbage would have gotten wet and soggy, but it probably wouldn't have turned the house into an indoor pool.
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I think it's safe to conclude that at 5 months after the fire and with apparently so little finished in terms of garbage removal, that it is likely 14BC will never return to its heyday. If there were ever any (serious) plans to fix this lot, it should have been done by now or at least initiated by this point especially now that the weather is no longer an issue. I do wonder if Barb isn't interested in restoring BLC because their new house is closer to town (and therefore closer to fast food places, Mal-Wart, and so on) because if Chris has taken stuff from the hoard into their new house, then it's a given chance Barb has done so.
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