Burned Docs 14BC Pics 08JUN14

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Well, I haven't witnessed a ton of home demos, but I remember seeing a small but looks-to-be-still-serviceable kitchen with spices and other dry condiments on the shelf...and then it was gone. The house wasn't like 14BLC, it was just in an area with rising land value, with other homes within a mile radius being torn down left and right.
Yeah I was just gonna say... you folks talking about salvage are being awfully optimistic. Where I live houses go on the market one day and are gone the next. If you want anything salvaged, you have to either do it yourself or get a group like Habitat for Humanity to come in and deconstruct the house piece by piece. And hardly anyone ever does that.
 
Do you really think there's any copper left at this point?
I don't see anything (fixtures, ripped boxes etc.) in the piles out front or in the dumpster that would indicate metal thieves have been there. They're not exactly subtle.
I mean, aside from Chris neighbors knowing that the house is sitting empty, many people online all over the country do, too. Fuck, there's a thread where someone set up a time lapse camera for a day and all sorts of people walked by.
The attention 14BLC gets makes it less likely it would be targeted by professional thieves. Also anyone who knows about the home from the internet would also know they'd have to dig through layers upon layers of barbage before reaching the walls. Thieves want to get in and get out as quickly as and easily as possible. While it's wide open to the weather, 14BLC is actually pretty well sealed from thieves. Doubtless there are richer and easier pickings to be had elsewhere in the C-ville area.
Personally, I do not think it's the Chandlers that have been digging through the front yard dumpster.
Who else would it be? I can't imagine there are enough weens out there to haul away the sheer volume of barbage that's been in that dumpster. It wouldn't have been metal thieves, either, because profitable recyclables never would have gone into it in the first place.
I now have an image of Chris tearing and clawing at the walls of 14BC in an attempt to get his lego fix stuck in my head.
Yeah, I was a little concerned Chris might actually read that and get ideas as I wrote it. But then I thought it might motivate him to get cracking on the clean-out. And it would be funny as hell to watch.
How much longer until this triggers a blight ordinance?
In a semi-rural place like Greene County it could take years, if ever. It will probably be seized for back taxes first.
Where I live houses go on the market one day and are gone the next. If you want anything salvaged, you have to either do it yourself or get a group like Habitat for Humanity to come in and deconstruct the house piece by piece. And hardly anyone ever does that.
A professional salvage crew can take less than a day to gut a home completely if they know it's going to be razed. It's the homes that are going to be rebuilt that they have to take their time over. Also a property that is being sold for land value likely already has been stripped even before the sale is made as the seller tries to squeeze every last red penny out of it.

And again, a lot depends on the local waste disposal laws. Some places require various materials like gypsum drywall, asphalt roofing, and wood to be hauled off separately for landfill, recycling, and composting etc. More often than not that's the case these days.
 
A professional salvage crew can take less than a day to gut a home completely if they know it's going to be razed. It's the homes that are going to be rebuilt that they have to take their time over. Also a property that is being sold for land value likely already has been stripped even before the sale is made as the seller tries to squeeze every last red penny out of it.

And again, a lot depends on the local waste disposal laws. Some places require various materials like gypsum drywall, asphalt roofing, and wood to be hauled off separately for landfill, recycling, and composting etc. More often than not that's the case these days.

Well, I doubt the county has rules about separating out stuff, and the main holdup is going to be Barb and her battle with State Farm. If she gives up completely, the dozers will take out 14BLC in just a few hours. If the county condemns 14BLC as a hazard and Barb can't do anything about it, the dozers will take out 14BLC in just a few hours.
 
Well, I doubt the county has rules about separating out stuff,
In Virginia? They probably do, actually. And if they don't, the landfill itself probably does.
and the main holdup is going to be Barb and her battle with State Farm.
Obviously.
If she gives up completely, the dozers will take out 14BLC in just a few hours. If the county condemns 14BLC as a hazard and Barb can't do anything about it, the dozers will take out 14BLC in just a few hours.
Yes, but there are still things that will need to be done before the demolition crews start, especially if it's ordered by the county. At the very least the county will have to have the property inspected as part of their case for demolition, and that will require it be cleared out first. The utilities will also have to be cut, and that requires appointments, scheduled service calls etc. The work will take only a day or two at most in total, but the process could take a week or more (sometimes much more).
 
Heh, well, and they can't afford Bell. Or really many lawyers, actually.

even those ambulance chasers that advertise during daytime TV?

I've seen people bring up asbestos numerous times. It was phased out around 1975 or so...14BC was built in 77', at a time where for the most part, asbestos use was already minimal.

looks a little older than that, most houses built in the late 70s had central air, 14BLC didn't, was Bob the original owner of it and just went cheap when building it?

How much is the land at 14BLC and nearby worth? If it's seized for back taxes by Green county, they'll probably auction it the courthouse and some real estate speculator will buy it and probably have it demolished if it's not already done by then. How will longer will State Farm keep paying rent before they make Barb a final offer? Was 14BLC even up to code pre fire? It wouldn't surprise me if it was built with construction shortcuts and cheap materials
 
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If it's seized for back taxes by Green county, they'll probably auction it the courthouse

If this ever happens, I would contribute towards a communal pool to make a bid on the land. The best way to do this would be to set up a corporation to acquire the land, and then distribute shares in the corporation according to the amount that each participating member contributed.

Forget that shitty Sonichu drawing, this would be the best way to own a piece of Christory.
 
If this ever happens, I would contribute towards a communal pool to make a bid on the land. The best way to do this would be to set up a corporation to acquire the land, and then distribute shares in the corporation according to the amount that each participating member contributed.

Forget that shitty Sonichu drawing, this would be the best way to own a piece of Christory.
We'll finally have our museum...
 
looks a little older than that, most houses built in the late 70s had central air,
That depends on the region and neighborhood and the builder. A lot of places even today aren't built with central air.
was Bob the original owner of it and just went cheap when building it?
IIRC Bob was not the original owner. He definitely didn't build it, in any case. 14BLC is a standard plan used by developers a LOT in the '70s. There are identical houses all over the country. People do not use a generic plan like that when building to suit.
How much is the land at 14BLC and nearby worth?
Off the cuff estimate for that area, probably 55k-65k tops when cleared. It's on municipal water / sewer which is a big plus for an empty lot in that area.
If it's seized for back taxes by Green county, they'll probably auction it the courthouse and some real estate speculator will buy it and probably have it demolished if it's not already done by then.
They'll demolish it first before auctioning it as bare land. It's cheaper that way to use their own people than to have the selling price reduced by the buyer's demolition costs. They'll deduct the back taxes and demolition fees etc. from the selling price and give whatever is left to Barb.
How will longer will State Farm keep paying rent before they make Barb a final offer?
I'm guessing probably not much more than a few months longer, but there are things Barb can do under tenancy laws to stay there longer before being evicted.
Was 14BLC even up to code pre fire?
It was up to '70s code, if that's what you're asking.
It wouldn't surprise me if it was built with construction shortcuts and cheap materials
Nah. It was built by a developer. I'm not joking when I say there are thousands upon thousands of homes in North America exactly like it. A lot of them are in pretty good shape, too, what with not having suffered decades of neglect at the hand of hoarders and manbabies.
 
Who was the original builder and owner of 14BLC? When did Borb buy 14BLC? Could cheap wiring or materials made the fire worse than it could have been using higher quality wiring or materials?
 
How much is the land at 14BLC and nearby worth? If it's seized for back taxes by Green county, they'll probably auction it the courthouse and some real estate speculator will buy it and probably have it demolished if it's not already done by then. How will longer will State Farm keep paying rent before they make Barb a final offer? Was 14BLC even up to code pre fire? It wouldn't surprise me if it was built with construction shortcuts and cheap materials


You like to ask a lot of ridiculous questions don't you?
 
I could see weens breaking in looking for artifacts like a clown shirt or some of Chris' long neglected, unopened vidya,(which if it had happened, we'd have heard about it) but, copper thieves? In a well documented hoard house? There's easier pickings. The appearant stoppage of work bothers me. Any chance of the house being repaired is now gone, which is sad. I wonder if we time it right if we can get the property from Barb for the cost of paying off Chris' debts and enough money to keep the rental for the few miserable months she has left on this mortal coil?
 
I could see weens breaking in looking for artifacts like a clown shirt or some of Chris' long neglected, unopened vidya,(which if it had happened, we'd have heard about it) but, copper thieves? In a well documented hoard house? There's easier pickings. The appearant stoppage of work bothers me. Any chance of the house being repaired is now gone, which is sad. I wonder if we time it right if we can get the property from Barb for the cost of paying off Chris' debts and enough money to keep the rental for the few miserable months she has left on this mortal coil?
I think that whoever investigated the house declared it a loss, and 14 BLC would never have rebuilt no matter what. That's one of the reasons why Barb has been trying to stop work, because she wants to keep her garbage and repair 14 BLC to its pre-burned state, while saner minds know that 14 BLC is a hazard and cannot be repaired. (This is all from what I've read elsewhere). Of course 14 BLC is even worse today, with rain, snow, and who knows what else has made its way inside.
 
I could see weens breaking in looking for artifacts like a clown shirt or some of Chris' long neglected, unopened vidya,(which if it had happened, we'd have heard about it) but, copper thieves? In a well documented hoard house? There's easier pickings. The appearant stoppage of work bothers me. Any chance of the house being repaired is now gone, which is sad. I wonder if we time it right if we can get the property from Barb for the cost of paying off Chris' debts and enough money to keep the rental for the few miserable months she has left on this mortal coil?

People who steal copper pipes are often junkies. Junkies don't make the most forward-thinking decisions. They typically see a boarded up house (or a new house under construction, or simply a house with few signs of occupancy, like an overflowing mailbox), come in, rip the fucking walls apart and leave with their loot.

I mean these are the same people who would bust open a car window to steal five Corrosion of Conformity CDs and a handful of nickles and pennies, if they were master thieves they wouldn't be out casing garbage houses in the sticks.
 
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People who steel copper pipes are often junkies. Junkies don't make the most forward-thinking decisions. They typically see a boarded up house (or a new house under construction, or simply a house with few signs of occupancy, like an overflowing mailbox), come in, rip the fucking walls apart and leave with their loot.

I mean these are the same people who would bust open a car window to steal five Corrosion of Conformity CDs and a handful of nickles and pennies, if they were master thieves they wouldn't be out casing garbage houses in the sticks.

The inside of the house is terrifying to US, Imagine the nightmare fuel it would give tweekers.
 
If they're tweekers and need money for a fix they won't give a shit.
 
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