Grand Jury speculation thread

[King Kiwi]

since this christian love day is chris' 40 birthday, how long do y'all think he'll live given his general unhealthiness?

Wrong place.

 

[WolfKiller]

I called the courthouse. The next hearing is
July 28

 

[Hogar Grupal]

I'm shocked we don't have the info yet on what the next court date is. Here's the number to call according to their website. 434-985-5224

Julay (July) 21 apparently.

EDIT

It's the 28. my bad.

 

[No Life Prince]

What the fuck? I could have sworn one of the Constution's first 10 amendments is a right to a Speedy trial. It'll be almost a whole year he's awaiting trial. At this point I'm more interested in the whole proceedings now instead of the actual verdict, and why it takes this long.

 

[WolfKiller]

What the fuck? I could have sworn one of the Constution's first 10 amendments is a right to a Speedy trial. It'll be almost a whole year he's awaiting trial. At this point I'm more interested in the whole proceedings now instead of the actual verdict, and why it takes this long.

Chris' lawyer is stalling for time, or banking time served to sweeten a plea deal.

 

[Uncle Meat]

If it's that far off, someone has a project to complete. I'm guessing it's a psych-eval and proposal for what will happen with Chris when he is released. They've done the investigation and got their evidence by now. The prosecutors are probably not budging until they know something has been put in place to prevent reoffending. And Chris's lawyer probably is working for basically the same thing. There are no easy solutions. Chis can't go back to where he was before and no one wants him once he gets out. He can't be left to take care of himself. Chris's situation isn't all that different from chimps raised as human babies. They reach a point where they can't be kept in the house any more, and you can't put them in a cage because they've never been used to that. He's in limbo. Until they decide what to do with him, the case gets kicked on down the calendar.

The hearing is set close to the one year anniversary. That may be as much of a delay as they can get away with.

 

[FamicomGorby]

What the fuck? I could have sworn one of the Constution's first 10 amendments is a right to a Speedy trial. It'll be almost a whole year he's awaiting trial. At this point I'm more interested in the whole proceedings now instead of the actual verdict, and why it takes this long.

If Chris's lawyer is the one asking for continuances then it's not a violation of his rights for it to take this long. Not to mention trials can take a while to come up based on how backed up the court system is.

My lock of the century is that Chris will take some plea deal that's gonna give him time served + probation as a sentence and then the state will dump him into cruel cold world on his own.

 

[Uncle Meat]

My lock of the century is that Chris will take some plea deal that's gonna give him time served + probation as a sentence and then the state will dump him into cruel cold world on his own.

The problem with that is that Chris is a relatively high profile criminal. If they just dump him and he hits the skids, there will be a lot of press claiming that "the system failed him". All those school shooters and kids who got abused to death have given social services a black eye. They're going to want to tie this one up tight so it doesn't happen here.

 

[RomanesEuntDomus]

I, for one, hope that Barb will leave BC14 and that all of Chris' possessions will be dumped in the trash by whoever has to clean up the mess that is the hoard.

 

[lolnah]

What the fuck? I could have sworn one of the Constution's first 10 amendments is a right to a Speedy trial. It'll be almost a whole year he's awaiting trial. At this point I'm more interested in the whole proceedings now instead of the actual verdict, and why it takes this long.

The defendant is allowed to waive their right to a speedy trial.

 

[Hexbox]

My lock of the century is that Chris will take some plea deal that's gonna give him time served + probation as a sentence and then the state will dump him into cruel cold world on his own.

Hopefully they find a way to tack sex offender status on there, too.

 

[Ophelia]

What the fuck? I could have sworn one of the Constution's first 10 amendments is a right to a Speedy trial. It'll be almost a whole year he's awaiting trial. At this point I'm more interested in the whole proceedings now instead of the actual verdict, and why it takes this long.

He could ask for one at any time, but that’s usually a bad idea. Especially since this is not something Chris should want to go to trial - He’d be destroyed. Let the lawyers do their thing. Chris got lucky with a really good defense lawyer and the best thing to do is leave him to it.

 

[jawsome]

Imagine spending your 40th birthday in jail.

 

[Holiday Special]

since this christian love day is chris' 40 birthday, how long do y'all think he'll live given his general unhealthiness?

Bob lived to his 80s. Barb is 80 now. Bob's father lived to be something like 90. I'm gonna say 70-75.

 

[Ophelia]

Bob lived to his 80s. Barb is 80 now. Bob's father lived to be something like 90. I'm gonna say 70-75.

A wild card is none of them experienced homelessness, which Chris could. I tend to agree with you, though.

 

[Clownery]

I called the courthouse. The next hearing is
July 28

LOL well that settles it chris really will be in the clink for a whole goddam year.

 

[You Dun Boof’ed]

But with something like incest, would there not be a sticking point of granting a furlough for a person to attend the funeral of the person he committed incest with?

There’s nothing legally that I know of that would bar him from the funeral. But that doesn’t mean that family members wouldn’t take issue with him being there, and ask him to leave.

What will probably happen is that the family would have the funeral home make the wake and service private. This way, they can prevent weens/retarded trooned-out motherfuckers from sperging up the place. At the private services I’ve attended, they’d have an approved guest list that would be checked at the door. Or they’d send invitations out. Sometimes the funeral home will hire a rent a cop to firmly escort people off the property if they refuse to leave. Which I’m sure would cause Chris to have an epic meltdown outside the funeral home.

 

[oramge cat]

It would be wrong to tell Chris he's not autistic, since he so obviously is. He has to come to terms with his other conditions too though.



Barb porn wouldn't be illegal though, unless you prosecuted it under the most vague of obscenity statutes. Especially since, if it does exist, it was not disseminated.



Don't know where you got that idea. One day pre-conviction counts as one day post-conviction.

There can be a slight advantage in that they'll sometimes round up time served a little bit by suspending the rest of the sentence if you're close to a nice round number. For instance if you've been in jail 11 months and you get a one year sentence, they'll sometimes say "close enough" and suspend the rest.

On the other hand, you don't get out on good behavior when held in remand. So if all your time was done with time-served it might potentially be more time that you would have spent if you'd received the same sentence ahead of time. For instance say you've been in jail for six months and you receive a six month sentence. You are immediately released and your good conduct credit is wasted. If instead you'd been convicted first, you'd only spend 4 months in jail because you'd earn 2 months of good conduct credit in jail. This situation is pretty rare though.

I don't know if Virginia counts good conduct credit for time held in remand, but most states do I believe. If this is the case then when Chris is sentenced he can probably apply the good conduct credit along with the time served. This may also be what you're thinking of. This would still be no different than regular time plus good conduct credit earned post-conviction.

If Chris made Barb porn but the case was upgraded to rape, would that have any impact on the outcome or the legality of the barb porn? IMO it would come off to a layman unfamiliar with Chris as a serial rapist taking "trophies" from his victim.

 

[King Kiwi]

I called the courthouse. The next hearing is
July 28

No wonder Chris went radio silent.

Either they finally banned him from writing to anyone that isn't his lawyer or mofo is literally in shock.

Kind of feel bad we got to wait that long but justice has to be served.

 

[Optimus Prime]

The problem with that is that Chris is a relatively high profile criminal. If they just dump him and he hits the skids, there will be a lot of press claiming that "the system failed him". All those school shooters and kids who got abused to death have given social services a black eye. They're going to want to tie this one up tight so it doesn't happen here.

I disagree he's that high profile, he's just in that butter zone of being too stupid to be a true criminal threat like a serial killer, but at the same time he clearly doesn't have ethical limitations to stand in the way of doing whatever he wants.

However, I do have to wonder if Chris would only get sent to an assisted living facility to be under constant monitoring if Barb is still alive. Otherwise, in the event of her death Chris probably will be dumped on the streets with virtually nothing to his name because there is no scenario where he gets to keep 14BC from the Bank.

There’s nothing legally that I know of that would bar him from the funeral. But that doesn’t mean that family members wouldn’t take issue with him being there, and ask him to leave.

What will probably happen is that the family would have the funeral home make the wake and service private. This way, they can prevent weens/retarded trooned-out motherfuckers from sperging up the place. At the private services I’ve attended, they’d have an approved guest list that would be checked at the door. Or they’d send invitations out. Sometimes the funeral home will hire a rent a cop to firmly escort people off the property if they refuse to leave. Which I’m sure would cause Chris to have an epic meltdown outside the funeral home.

They also could simply force Chris to attend remotely, watching the proceedings through a one way camera feed while still inside the walls of jail. Its a cruel thing, but the rest of the Chandler clan seem to be absolutely done with Chris's bullshit.