2019-03-17 - New Zealand Police: "We would like to preserve any posts and technical data including IP addresses, email addresses etc"

[Pargon]

I feel so bad for Euros more and more every day for the silly things they can be supposedly arrested for.
I can't tell if they NZ government is ignorant or just outright stupid in thinking that they can take on the herculean task of censoring a video from the internet of all places.

"Euros"
New Zealand

Missed it by a hemisphere there, m8.

 

[repentance]

Decided to look into this section 50 of 2008.
Is this what they're talking about?
Unlawful possession of Police property (1) A person commits an offence who, without lawful authority or reasonable excuse, has in his or her possession any Police property. (2) A person who commits an offence against this section is liable on conviction to imprisonment for a term not exceeding 3 months, to a fine not exceeding $2,000, or to both.

Yes it is but it only applies if you're not the intended recipient.

Didn't the NZ news sites cut off partnerships with the AUS side of their own company because of this?

Sky Network NZ dropped Sky News from its channels. I doubt it will be a long term thing. The news cycle will move on and Sky News will have no longer have reason to air footage of the attack.

 

[Lost_Kiwi]

"What's it called? Kiwifarm? Michaels, why the hell is a farming website hosting this video? Get them to take it down, NOW!"

 

[MG 620]

Arrest all kiwifarmers now, now, NOW!

 

[Dingo]

If you are from New Zealand.

You might want to unplug your Amazon smart-speaker.

 

[Stranger Neighbors]

Decided to look into this section 50 of 2008.
Is this what they're talking about?
Unlawful possession of Police property (1) A person commits an offence who, without lawful authority or reasonable excuse, has in his or her possession any Police property. (2) A person who commits an offence against this section is liable on conviction to imprisonment for a term not exceeding 3 months, to a fine not exceeding $2,000, or to both.

Because I'm pretty sure an email you sent out to another person isn't classified as property of the police. Hell, once you send an email you remove all privacy from said email I believe.

Maybe in some backwards ass nation that works. I think this guy is used to busting people for fapping in public, not international law or interwebz law. He was hoping Null would hear the word "police" shit his pants and give him admin privileges or some crap. Maybe he should have scrolled through the website a little more than just looking up nulls contact, would have saved him the energy of typing (and actually having to look up a law he could try and make sound official)
Plus he may have gotten a chuckle or two... They could use them over there while they literally tear themselves apart (trying to ban guns in a place which already have restrictive laws) buncha morons

 

[Odie Esty]

Cops only have power because there's a bunch of them with guns and nightsticks. A lot of cops think they have inherent worth because they're paid to bust heads and people specifically seek them out for it but if you're out of reach they're just another tardwrangler without a rope

 

[Stranger Neighbors]

Imagine trying to ban a video that will let everyone know exactly what went down and how horrible it was. The video and manifesto turned the attack from a list of numbers and a title to the inner workings of a demented person who went out to kill innocents. People can only benefit from being able to access it.

Besides, some dude lied about chasing the killer and breaking his windshield with his shotgun, but you wouldn't know that unless you had access to the video.

Exactly right. The media don't want it public because they want to capitalize on that shit. I feel awful about what happened. I watched it and it was revolting. But how quickly the media is trying to profit from it is even more disgusting they are doing EXACTLY what the shooter wanted and planned. They will probably make a lifetime movie about it, write a huge article about the guy who tried to tackle the shooter. Make up a bunch of bullshit about what's in the video because they want to be the only ones who see reality. They want to be the middle man and filter for the masses preception and digestion of reality it's all about there stupid narrative and meanwhile that mad lads is in his cell jerking off and loving every second of it

Do these warnings ever hold up in court? You can't prevent someone from sharing an email they recieved without prior comunication, right?

Not sure how it works in NZ but in alot of places you can't start email correspondence with someone and say "you can't share this anywhere btw" that's like walking up to someone on the street tell them you wanna suck their ass and say at the end you're a lawyer and that falls under attorney client privileges... This "detective" should reread his laws (unless of course NZ is more ass backwards then I previously thought)

 

[SlenderManBearPig]

I think Null jumped the gun on this and everyone has just followed suit without actually reading the email. Pretty sure everyone here has completely misjudged what this was about, the relevant line that makes me think this is "At around the time of the shooting there were a number of posts and links posted on kiwifarms.net <http://kiwifarms.net> relating to the shooting and TARRANT".

To start with, see this : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Zealand_Police#Insignia_and_uniform
There's some stuff there about what equipment they have too, if anyone's interested.

John Michael is a senior sergeant (only 5% total of the force) and a detective. He's hit the top rank he can reach before he gets into management, he aint gonna be on diaper duty cleaning up videos from the net after an event of this magnitude. IMO he thought Null was Tarrant or an associate posting the original shooting thread. Why? Because Null found out about it from 8chan, and posted while the shooting was still ongoing, or very soon after it was over, and included links to the livestream and manifesto. His only unique distinguisher is the title "ooperator", before Kiwi was well known shitloads of people would talk to him onsite without even realizing who he was, its an easy mistake to make. The email specifically says "I am hoping you can help us with an investigation" ffs, if he wanted the video taken down he would've just said to hide the posts and store the information in the first email, note how he specifically writes "in relation to the shooting and TARRANT", no mentions of the video or content.

IMO Nulls not going to hear anything more about this, he said he was the guy that posted it and the cop would've checked with the SIS and realized that yes, Joshua Moon is some random guy that runs the farms, posts under the name Null and lives in a gulag, and that even if he was an associate he's out of reach unless serious evidence emerges linking him to the shooting.

Also about the email footer you guys are all spazzing about, it's talking about if you weren't the intended recipient, or if you were but then you share something sensitive (evidence attached for you to comment on / explain, for example).

 

[Exceptional Chimp]

Null, you would be my spirit animal if I believed in that shit. That was savage!

New KiwiFarms theme:

Team America (Fuck Yea!) 10 Hours

I do not own the music associated with this video. This is just a kickass song that deserves to be heard throughout the Earth.

youtu.be

 

[Medicated]

Interesting, in 2014 the FBI sent this Detective Senior Sergeant John Michael information on a pedophile ring after two boys had been exploited in their country. No charges were ever made, even after other suspects were arrested in other parts of the world. No explanation was ever given.

I don't think Null has anything to worry about since this detective can't even do the job he was given to do let alone try and silence a website.

I'd theorize the long response time is because they are aware of the mosque. And the Detective was already aware of the pedophile ring. As was the case in Rotherham.

I'll take a wild guess and say the NZ government is probably going full censorship is because if it's found out that the NZ government and police knew of things happening within these mosques and did nothing. Then they are complicit and are working with the Islamic council to suppress the manifesto and any links that could be traced to them. So they have to gatekeep hard and narrative all the information that gets to the public.

 

[wrangled tard]

Didn't the NZ news sites cut off partnerships with the AUS side of their own company because of this?

Maybe, I don't keep up with main stream media much so it'd be the first I've heard of it.

 

[QT 219]

Hi Josh

Appreciate your quick response.

Will definitely consider what you have said.

Regards

John

John Michael
Detective Senior Sergeant
E-mail: john.michael@police.govt.nz

For those who didn't realize, this is the most "Kiwi" response ever. They are only culture I know of that says "Yes, thank you" when you tell them to go fuck themselves.

 

[Vanilla Essence]

Seeing the NZ Prime Minister wear a headscarf is the most cringy shit ever. I honestly don't see how it pleases anyone, she managed to achieve something that is simultaneously cucked, problematic cultural appropriation and patronizing. What a fucking joke country.

What she's doing is another example of what I said a few pages back about repeated attempts of NZ governments for decades to constantly out-bid each other with the virtue signals and holier-than-thou sanctimony, designed for CNN level consumption. ?❄???

 

[heidrk]

fbi, for some reason, bust down the gulag door and arrest null for saying names, phone numbers, the n word, on the internet

 

[captkrisma]

Want our farms?

Molon labe, John, Molon labe.

 

[I Love Beef]

Is it me, or am I the only one who recognizes Christchurch as the place where the real life story of Heavenly Creatures, aka progenitor chuunibyou aka classic otherkin spergery originated from?

Maybe you should check what's in the water or what's being spread in your society more closely coppers. Then again, you all live next to the potential Mad Max nation of Australia, where there's just as much crime as there is in the States/the UK going on. You don't even get the mothridden card of playing how "Japan is brainwashing our youth with the anime" and "vidya games are the devil's hands" like the US has. You get the best one dealt out of all: Politico-religious impact in the face of a world that's scared to do anything out of fear, and also breeds lone wolf crazies and spergery of the next level in its own territory.

don't let them dingos eat ya babies, auh auh auh

 

[Cosmos]

And I don't give a single solitary fuck what section 50 of your faggot law say about sharing your email. Fuck you and fuck your shithole country.

- Josh

to Dear Leader for having the balls to say this to an official.

 

[The Un-Clit]

I will personally shitpost every commonwealth cuntry to death

Not ALL commonwealth countries cooperate a lot. Canada has been known to tell the rest of the commonwealth to fuck right off.

Also been known to tell America to fuck right off when required. 'coalition of the willing'. Moarlike 'coalition of the cucks' amirite?

Although right now Canada is telling China to fuck right off too, on behalf of America with the Huawei CEO mess. Awesome.

 

[MG 620]

For those who didn't realize, this is the most "Kiwi" response ever. They are only culture I know of that says "Yes, thank you" when you tell them to go fuck themselves.

I want to move there and police the internet