2019-03-17 - New Zealand Police: "We would like to preserve any posts and technical data including IP addresses, email addresses etc"

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Fish-Eyed Fool said:
Entire Anglo-land police force vs one Florida Man.
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Null for Governor in 2022!
Lost_Kiwi said:
And the brave Moslem afghani that chased him out, dodging bullets and throwing ATM machines.
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I have a sick feeling that these events were not the first time that person had been in that situation.
heidrk said:
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fbi, for some reason, bust down the gulag door and arrest null for saying names, phone numbers, the n word, on the internet
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sigh Doxing is not against US law. Hate speech, unless it directly incites immediate lawless action is also not illegal. It's protected by the First Amendment.
 
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The Un-Clit said:
Not ALL commonwealth countries cooperate a lot. Canada has been known to tell the rest of the commonwealth to fuck right off.

Also been known to tell America to fuck right off when required. 'coalition of the willing'. Moarlike 'coalition of the cucks' amirite?

Although right now Canada is telling China to fuck right off too, on behalf of America with the Huawei CEO mess. Awesome.
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Canada actually has a law in place where you cannot trash religions, there's talk about removing that archaic law...as well as bringing back nonviolent dueling.

Canada only has balls when there isn't a Trudeau in charge.
 
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The Un-Clit said:
Not ALL commonwealth countries cooperate a lot. Canada has been known to tell the rest of the commonwealth to fuck right off.

Also been known to tell America to fuck right off when required. 'coalition of the willing'. Moarlike 'coalition of the cucks' amirite?

Although right now Canada is telling China to fuck right off too, on behalf of America with the Huawei CEO mess. Awesome.
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fucking canacucks need to stop this stolen valor bullshit drink more syrup you diabetic bitch
 
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wrangled tard said:
Not only do they allow 9 news to publicise the video of the shooting, but it's actively promoted to me by youtube. The gate keeping is so incredibly clear.
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Video in question.
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I can't find any youtubers talking about this. I'm suspecting there censoring videos. Can you guys link some real people? Not this gatekeeper crap
 
johnny5150 said:
What's the likelihood that New Zealand police asked 8chan for the same thing, 8chan told them to fuck off.
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The 8chan administration is responding to law enforcement regarding the recent incident where many websites were used by a criminal to publicize his crime. We always comply with US law and won't comment further on this incident so as not to disrupt the ongoing investigation.
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Anonymus Fluhre said:
Zero, according to one site 8ch is complying with their requests.
www.zerohedge.com

NZ Police Demand "Kiwi Farms" Message Board Preserve "IP Addresses" And "Email Addresses" Following Massacre

"Is this a joke?"
www.zerohedge.com www.zerohedge.com
Also, see above post from their twitter.
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It specifies 'US law', so it's not clear what'll happen. The kiwi-kiwis aren't running their legal requests through US jurisdiction or we would have gotten a very different email from very different people. At the same time, every news outlet ever is making a point of adding 8chan to their articles as part of a take-down campaign while the farms are barely mentioned, so it might just be a differing level of scrutiny.
 
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I appreciate what Josh is doing
SlenderManBearPig said:
I think Null jumped the gun on this and everyone has just followed suit without actually reading the email. Pretty sure everyone here has completely misjudged what this was about, the relevant line that makes me think this is "At around the time of the shooting there were a number of posts and links posted on kiwifarms.net <http://kiwifarms.net> relating to the shooting and TARRANT".

To start with, see this : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Zealand_Police#Insignia_and_uniform
There's some stuff there about what equipment they have too, if anyone's interested.

John Michael is a senior sergeant (only 5% total of the force) and a detective. He's hit the top rank he can reach before he gets into management, he aint gonna be on diaper duty cleaning up videos from the net after an event of this magnitude. IMO he thought Null was Tarrant or an associate posting the original shooting thread. Why? Because Null found out about it from 8chan, and posted while the shooting was still ongoing, or very soon after it was over, and included links to the livestream and manifesto. His only unique distinguisher is the title "ooperator", before Kiwi was well known shitloads of people would talk to him onsite without even realizing who he was, its an easy mistake to make. The email specifically says "I am hoping you can help us with an investigation" ffs, if he wanted the video taken down he would've just said to hide the posts and store the information in the first email, note how he specifically writes "in relation to the shooting and TARRANT", no mentions of the video or content.

IMO Nulls not going to hear anything more about this, he said he was the guy that posted it and the cop would've checked with the SIS and realized that yes, Joshua Moon is some random guy that runs the farms, posts under the name Null and lives in a gulag, and that even if he was an associate he's out of reach unless serious evidence emerges linking him to the shooting.

Also about the email footer you guys are all spazzing about, it's talking about if you weren't the intended recipient, or if you were but then you share something sensitive (evidence attached for you to comment on / explain, for example).
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I don't think a super cop is going to approach a mass murder perp saying "Could you please advise what legal process you require for this request." There's legal protocol for terrorism- sharing videos, not so much. If the inquiry was limited to only KF because null posted it so quickly, I'd be more inclined to agree with your reading but it's in the context of a censorship response. Guy is also cyber police who goes after child porn and this is in his jurisdiction. Giving the benefit of the doubt, he's forced to take time from busting pedos because his boss screamed at him to delet this. But likely he's also hyped up on 'gotta do something' after the cops failed to protect a bunch of people.

Null is correct to see it as the sort of open ended fishing trip that's the future of internet communication, and get outraged some cop thinks KF is a honeypot he'd like to dip their paw in. Even if this cop's intentions are good, every chance law enforcement gets to crack down on the internet is an educational exercise to learn from. A decade or whenever from now, when the hammer actually drops, people who weren't paying attention are going to wonder at the sophistication and efficiency it's done with.
 
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Null said:
Hi Josh

Appreciate your quick response.

Will definitely consider what you have said.

Regards

John

John Michael
Detective Senior Sergeant
E-mail: john.michael@police.govt.nz
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It might be that I'm a semi-repressed britbong but I think that in some ways his reply is more impressively savage than Null's.
 
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