2019-03-17 - New Zealand Police: "We would like to preserve any posts and technical data including IP addresses, email addresses etc"

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Medicated said:
I'd theorize the long response time is because they are aware of the mosque. And the Detective was already aware of the pedophile ring. As was the case in Rotherham.

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I'll take a wild guess and say the NZ government is probably going full censorship is because if it's found out that the NZ government and police knew of things happening within these mosques and did nothing. Then they are complicit and are working with the Islamic council to suppress the manifesto and any links that could be traced to them. So they have to gatekeep hard and narrative all the information that gets to the public.

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Sorry, my eyes are not the best. What does the article in your image say? ("A Kiwi Lad's death by drone")?
 
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Man, 22, to appear in court over Christchurch attack video | RNZ News

archived 17 Mar 2019 18:29:10 UTC
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"A 22-year-old man will appear in court today accused of distributing the live stream of the Christchurch shootings."
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Medicated said:
I'd theorize the long response time is because they are aware of the mosque. And the Detective was already aware of the pedophile ring. As was the case in Rotherham.

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That was up so recently that there's still a link to it in this article:
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'White Widow' Islamic State recruiter killed by drone

The woman once dubbed the world's most wanted female terrorist, British mum Sally-Anne Jones, is said to be dead.
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'White Widow' Islamic State recruiter killed by drone | Stuff.co.nz

archived 17 Mar 2019 03:17:48 UTC
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IamnottheNSA said:
"A 22-year-old man will appear in court today accused of distributing the live stream of the Christchurch shootings."
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Sperging I know, but he couldn't "distribute the live stream." The only place that was available was Facebook. He distributed a RECORDING of the live stream.
 
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Zeitgeist said:
this is the most "Kiwi" response ever. They are only culture I know of that says "Yes, thank you" when you tell them to go fuck themselves.
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You've obviously never met a Canadian... although I suppose apologizing when insulted is a little different.

DrainRedRain said:
But even if we were an NZ forum, and we all were NZ citizens, basing something only on IP and emails isn't the most effective move. Also, some people (specially the ones in the police force) think IPs are the ultimate answer and can't be faked with vpns and shit. So, what would they do if they picked a user who has an IP from Sierra Leone for example? The guy could be a literal kiwi shitting all over the NZ police force's garden but with a vpn, and I bet my ass that the kiwi police would be confused as hell.
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Not all pigs are retarded, and they can hire non-retarded help as required. They'll get IPs and times of when the video was shared given to them by the (((good people))) who run Facebook and Google and other services (probably without even asking first), and they'll send absolutely all that data to every single ISP asking for help in attacking people and threatening to put out press releases saying they didn't help with a terrorism if they don't assist.

Then they'll just raid people and take all their computing equipment at random so they can be seen to be doing something.

Lost_Kiwi said:
Our brave prime minister, Jacinda Ardern has shown great solidarity with the Moslem people wearing her head-scarf and vowing to ban all semi-automatic guns in NZ. Thank you Jacinda! Try not to get pregnant a second time while in office
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Absolutely disgusting cunt. I have no doubt these faggots in government were intending to bring in worse gun laws anyway, which doesn't make this a 'false flag' operation to accelerate that. They would have done whatever they'll do soon enough anyway.

N836BA said:
I do have some understanding of how the NZ police respond to armed incidents. They have a local team called the Armed Offenders Squad (AOS) this is similar to a county or city SWAT/SRT team in the US but not exactly the same. They will generally not confront armed people unless they absolutely have to. Their procedure is cordon and contain.
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Agree insofar that it certainly wouldn't be policy to go in regardless of what was going on, though a lot of the Police are still heterosexual White or Maori men, and if it'd happened in a rural area there's a good chance they would have had a go in a situation where there was ongoing violence. This is probably as much a consequence of the extreme incompetence of police leadership over the past few decades as anything else. Christchurch police stations besides the central one (which admittedly isn't too far away in this case) are barely manned and all calls are taken in a centralized national dispatch that's probably been moved to the Philipinnes by now, so it might just have taken that long to roll cars.

When they did send cars, it's worth noting that Christchurch had a major earthquake half a decade ago and not everything has been repaired to a particularly good standard. The chill attitude of the police also does not do them any favours when responding to incidents like this. Forget Tarrant, every useless asian/woman driver who took 15 seconds to pull off the road in their imported Japanese minivan after police came right up behind them lights flashing and siren wailing should be charged with murder.
 
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DrainRedRain said:
Also, some people (specially the ones in the police force) think IPs are the ultimate answer and can't be faked with vpns and shit.
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All IPs are owned by someone. The "someone" is often an ISP. ISPs keep records on which IPs they loan to which person at any given time.

VPN IPs are owned by the VPN. If they got a VPN, no harm no foul, they just toss out that IP. (Or maybe they could pester the VPN company for a customer lookup, but many of them don't keep records to forestall that.)

IPs can't be faked, necessarily. They just might not be useful. But they certainly might be useful.
 
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Marvin said:
IPs can't be faked, necessarily. They just might not be useful. But they certainly might be useful.
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I could have sword I had heard of researchers spoofing IPs in a BitTorrent swarm to prove they aren't reliable... making it look like a law enforcement agency was in the swarm or something. I can't find it now.
 
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