2019-03-17 - New Zealand Police: "We would like to preserve any posts and technical data including IP addresses, email addresses etc"

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Mammal said:
Yes indeed Dickens, we must protect this website at all costs. It is one of the very few websites, that I can see, which has maintained freedom of information. If the bureaucrats and their elite buddies take that away they will certainly have full control over the populace, and we won't be having any fun whatsoever if that happens.
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However, for every measure there's a countermeasure. Doesn't mean we don't need to stand up for our rights, though.
 
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Corbin Dallas Multipass said:
I'm pretty sure throwing a bunch of semi-legalese at the end of an e-mail does not constitute a contract, at least not in places with sane laws. Otherwise I could say by reading to this point you agree to send me 1 million spacebux and failure to comply means you surrender all wordly possessions to me.
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Oh sure, but if- for example- you're a lawyer working on a dispute and receive an email containing privileged information from opposing counsel (who sent it to you on accident), you have to let them know and then delete it immediately. If you fail to do so you face suspension from the bar (or, in some cases, complete disbarment).

That's why I said "can." In the majority of cases, like the one in this thread, the warning is a bluff aimed at intimidating the other party.
 
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We're not even remotely related to anything or anybody connected in any way to the whole shooting. Yet they resort to asinine spoutings like, "Moon is the operator of kf and he long ago used to be an admin at 8chan where the shooter recently said stuff. Moon posted the video to kf. Therefore, Moon must be culpable too."

Do the NZ police or press know there are Muslims on this site, too? Here there is universal condemnation of any attack on unarmed people and children, whether by gun, bomb, tank, truck, or plane.

Seems like deception and spin are tools of the modern press/media/politician, and they all try to outdo each other in it.

Wonder if they'll go after pewdiepie as well... oh
Others argued that there was an inherent implication in the Pewdiepie shoutout. Activist Nathan Bernard tweeted, “The Christchurch mosque shooter live-streamed himself shouting, “subscribe to PewDiePie” before opening fire. PewDiePie is the world’s largest Youtber who has platformed Islamophobic pundits like Ben Shapiro. This is how radicalization happens on the internet.”
 
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hanfbaron said:
I just came to this site through the shooting, because I want to get my own picture of what happened. I'm not listening to mainstream media at all. So thanks a lot! Please tell us if you need any help fighting this!
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Yes, we do need help fighting this. We need journalists to create new profiles in the wake of Dear Leader telling an entire nation to fuck off, and we need them to befriend us and make a Freudian slip by using the word, "us," when they're supposed to be posing as one person rather than as a corporation or news team.
 
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I don't understand why everyone's so keen on pinning the blame for every major shooting on everything but the perps. Yeah, this random aussie bastard didn't shoot up mosques by himself, he totally did it because of Null and Pewdiepie and meme culture.

Most of it is trying to use a tragedy to prove This Thing We Don't Like Is Bad, Actually. But, it always makes me wonder if people are legit incapable of comprehending that sometimes people are just awful for no real reason. I guess if you aren't the kind of person who would go on a mindless rampage then it's hard to imagine that someone could do that without being told to or coerced somehow into doing it?

Anyway. The guy's manifesto literally has the Navy Seal copypasta in it so I don't know why anyone's treating it that seriously. If he wanted to stir chaos and division, the media and NZ gov't is really giving him what he wants.
 
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hanfbaron said:
Journalists always need to be polite. I hate being that, so I rather stay as an individual and shoot out my freedom of speech, without putting a hand in front of my mouth.
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Well, I'm often polite because I don't want to deal with people for that long in real life. I'll just be nice to them so they fuck off easily.

P.S.- Although admittedly that doesn't work at times so I will turn physical or up the ante with the words.
 
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Troon squad ain't impressed by @Null. Surely this is the end of the farms.
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Jesus christ what a bunch of sensitive island cucks.Hey remember when "big people" tried to shut down sites and blogs who posted "fappening photos" because that turned out well.I wonder how much government spending is NZ willing to dish out for people telling out the truth of who that "white supremacist shooter" was.
The kiwi vs new zealand war has begun. lol
 
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Anonymus Fluhre said:
I think that's why New Zealand, despite not having a whole lot that can kill you on land, has less than 3/5 for traveling to, and that's before the current events. The country has nothing and people are starting to know what to expect with the people and crime there. Like before the only thing I wanted to go there for was for some of the special currency they make and take some 4k videos/ pictures for some work I'm doing. Now? I'll just go to a proper Western country for a holiday or Japan. I'd have more freedom in China on a visit than I would there too anyways.
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Not me. I would gladly go there. It's the only natural habitat on the planet to fuck free-range Hobbits.
 
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Haha, my way of saying I am my own man with my own ideas and opinions and don't have a shred of respect for police. They made me this way!
 
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Fuck Tha Police
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Coming straight from the upside down
Young Kiwi got it bad cause I clown
And not nice posts so the police think
They have the authority to attack the minority

Fuck that shit, cause we ain't the one
For a punk motherfucker with badge and a gun
To be stressing on, with fake news speaking of jail
We can go together toe to toe, you can call me on my cell
 
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Null said:
At around the time of the shooting there were a number of posts and links posted on kiwifarms.net <http://kiwifarms.net> relating to the shooting and TARRANT

We would like to preserve any posts and technical data including IP addresses, email addresses etc linked to these posts pending a formal legal request .

Could you please advise what legal process you require for this request and also confirm preservation of the data requested pending legal process.
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Dude, they're asking for help. They're not threatening or demanding anything. KF has helped gather evidence against shits before that have lead to charges being laid, so why is this any different? The fact that they asked, rather than KF doing it on their own volition?

And yes, I know I'm being a precious snowflake about this, but fifty one people are dead. I don't see how allowing the police to see for themselves that this asshole had no connection to KF is in any way harmful. It's not about censorship, it's not about entrapment, they just want this guy to go down hard.

EDIT: Herp derp, I don't know the US jutice system works.
 
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