2019-03-17 - New Zealand Police: "We would like to preserve any posts and technical data including IP addresses, email addresses etc"

[Nasty]

This should make people's heads spin at 1200 RPM
View attachment 699966View attachment 699967

Weebs are largely a blight.

 

[2nd_time_user]

Thoughts on hand-delivering cease and desist letters to the journalists involved? Would probably get the most lulz if they referred to US law.

Null could C&D pubs spreading false info about him. He didn't refuse to provide Tarrant's emails. Tarrant himself did not post his manifesto here. Neither was the subject of discussion. Printing false info that could easily be refuted--say by reading the OP here--isn't protected speech even in the US. It's libel.

 

[AnOminous]

Newsweek: Why You Shouldn't Watch The Video and What to Do If You Did

Terrible things might happen if you watch the video, like you might notice the New Zealand police are fucking lying about their fast response time.

Dimi Reider

Dimi? More like dhimmi.

 

[Feline Supremacist]

Null could C&D pubs spreading false info about him. He didn't refuse to provide Tarrant's emails. Tarrant himself did not post his manifesto here. Neither was the subject of discussion. Printing false info that could easily be refuted--say by reading the OP here--isn't protected speech even in the US. It's libel.

Libel/slander in the UK is way more actionable than the US (Melania Trump forcing the DM to settle after suggesting she was call girl before marrying comes to mind), I wonder if it's the same in all Commonwealth countries.

 

[2nd_time_user]

Christchurch mosque shooting accused not allowed TV or newspapers in prison

http://archive.is/Nj7aC#selection-703.0-703.75

The man accused of the Christchurch mosque shooting is not allowed access to newspapers or TV and radio - depriving him of the ability to read about the atrocity.
On top of the media ban, he is also held in segregation under 24-hour surveillance, and no visitors have been approved to see him. ...

 

[AnOminous]

Christchurch mosque shooting accused not allowed TV or newspapers in prison

http://archive.li/Nj7aC#selection-703.0-703.75

The man accused of the Christchurch mosque shooting is not allowed access to newspapers or TV and radio - depriving him of the ability to read about the atrocity.
On top of the media ban, he is also held in segregation under 24-hour surveillance, and no visitors have been approved to see him. ...

I'm going to bet he's going to sue over that if it continues and will probably win, much as Breivik did.

Meanwhile, people not in prison for mass murder will continue not to be allowed to use the Internet normally.

 

[Male Idiot]

So this is the fastest way to get animu made after ya ? Quality shitpost art.

 

[Arcturus]

You know who I really feel bad for? Josh's mom. That poor woman. I totally support the way he's handled this but I can't help but pity his mom cause she's probably worried. ):

 

[2nd_time_user]

You know who I really feel bad for? Josh's mom. That poor woman. I totally support the way he's handled this but I can't help but pity his mom cause she's probably worried. ):

This isn't the first rodeo for Josh or his family. People have shown up at the door with knives. They've tried to get his family members fired. Josh almost shut the Farms down but decided to double down on free speech instead. I'm sure family discussion was involved.

 

[Arcturus]

This isn't the first rodeo for Josh or his family. People have shown up at the door with knives. They've tried to get his family members fired. Josh almost shut the Farms down but decided to double down on free speech instead. I'm sure family discussion was involved.

I know. It still probably worries her though. It's a little different this time around. No one wants their kid to be in the middle of a media shitstorm with multiple outlets spreading lies and some even posting Josh's picture.

 

[Dr.Benway]

We would like to preserve any posts and technical data including IP addresses, email addresses etc linked to these posts pending a formal legal request

What a vague fucking request. What fucking posts?

 

[m0rnutz]

I know. It still probably worries her though. It's a little different this time around. No one wants their kid to be in the middle of a media shitstorm with multiple outlets spreading lies and some even posting Josh's picture.

Wouldn't be the first time.

Ateast this time its not a fat buck toothed sadistic 50yo ogre weilding a bowie knife in his mom's face.

 

[2nd_time_user]

What a vague fucking request. What fucking posts?

Probably everything they want or could "need." Probably everything.

There's no evidence that Tarrant ever joined here. But there's no proof he didn't. There's no evidence that he posted anything over the past four years or sent DMs fomenting his WNish jihad. But there's no evidence he didn't. They can ask to search your house and take everything, but you can say no.

What they're after is the info from Josh's tracker, because everyone downloading is also seeding. People could get 14 years for watching a news event unfold. If the PRC or Russia or Syria tried this, the whole Western world would tell them what Josh did, and it's just as fucked for a first-world largely white Commonwealth country to do it, too.

 

[Marvin]

But New Zealand is not censoring the truth. They are not covering up the fact that this terrorist attack happened,

Truth includes little details too. Take video of someone robbing a bank. It might be the truth that they robbed a bank, but what if they only stole half of what was claimed? What if the other half vanished? (btw, this happens a lot with cops)

We don't all agree on the nitty gritty details, and when it comes to something big and political like this, everyone is entitled to see it and make their own evaluations.

Like the dude's manifesto is a great example of something you need to read firsthand to reliably interpret, considering all the irony and neckbeard references in it. If you only listen to the journalist take, it's just a run-of-the-mill racist spiel.

This isn't the first rodeo for Josh or his family. People have shown up at the door with knives. They've tried to get his family members fired. Josh almost shut the Farms down but decided to double down on free speech instead. I'm sure family discussion was involved.

Y'know, the funny thing is that vordy's gambit almost worked. After vordrak got what he wanted, and null took down the site, he was unable to restrain his attack-mongs. They wouldn't quit sperging at null's family.

So since null's family was going to get harassed whether the site was down or not, why not put it back up? Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

 

[⠠⠠⠅⠑⠋⠋⠁⠇⠎ ⠠⠠⠊⠎ ⠠⠠⠁ ⠠⠠⠋⠁⠛]

It still probably worries her though. It's a little different this time around. No one wants their kid to be in the middle of a media shitstorm with multiple outlets spreading lies and some even posting Josh's picture.

Urgh. This is all too true and even as a long time lurker I hadn't considered this.

I think it goes without saying that something like an Amazon wishlist for adding extra security against media scum and other terrorists, or contributions to help her avoid these filth until this blows over, would be widely subscribed to.

 

[celticlord88]

Greetings from the US. You have our support. This shooting was meant as a direct attack on our freedoms here. Stay strong. Never surrender to your government.

 

[Octavia]

Had to finally make an account after this, Josh's reply had me in tears at work on a pretty bad day. The balls on him to send that.

 

[2nd_time_user]

Like the dude's manifesto is a great example of something you need to read firsthand to reliably interpret, considering all the irony and neckbeard references in it. If you only listen to the journalist take, it's just a run-of-the-mill racist spiel.

Bellin?cat makes a decent attempt, at least in the beginning, to explain chan-speak to the masses:

http://archive.is/OdSil

 

[ProgKing of the North]

You should keep in mind that, up until this shooting, the biggest news story in New Zealand this year was that a family of Irish tourists were rowdy and tried to start fights with the locals (I'm not kidding). NZ is a country where shit like this simply doesn't happen, so now there's a lot of flailing around like headless chickens trying to deal with it. I don't think he's going to serve the full 14 years for it, he'll probably only be sentenced for a year or so with parole. Either that or there's a huge element to that case that is being withheld from the public (like he co-operated with Brendon in planning the shooting) but I doubt it.

And if you wanna know what happens if you overreact to a horrible event just because it's unprecedented, look at what the US did after 9/11. New Zealanders, you do NOT want your own version of the Patriot Act.

 

[Gustav Schuchardt]

This isn't the first rodeo for Josh or his family. People have shown up at the door with knives. They've tried to get his family members fired. Josh almost shut the Farms down but decided to double down on free speech instead. I'm sure family discussion was involved.

It's an odd world we live in where we'll all end up using VPNs to access a site devoted to satirical coverage of Internet lunacy to get access to unfiltered speech. But that is clearly where things are going.