2019-04-10 DSP Got Married - Replacing the Gorilla Munch mascot put us on the bad timeline.

[UngaWunga]

I'm not sure if anyone made this point but he basically just fucked himself by getting married, especially if she didn't give him a marriage ultimatum (marry me or I'm leaving). He just ensured her a share of 50% of the "marriages" total assets. Considering she came there with pretty much nothing, she came out on top.

What? How’s that possible? Where’d you learn about this??? Have you tried to warn anybody else?

 

[That Hedonist Nerd]

What? How’s that possible? Where’d you learn about this??? Have you tried to warn anybody else?

What is Marital Property According to Washington Law?
Washington is one of a few remaining community property states in the country, which means items considered marital property are generally split equally. According to Washington law, marital (or community) property is that which was acquired by either party during the course of the marriage, with some exceptions. Community property generally includes:

• All earnings of either spouse during the marriage (including interest on investments, capital gains, retirement benefits, and other assets);
• All property obtained with earnings during the course of the marriage; and
• All property obtained with community funds.

For couples that move from a state that doesn't recognize community property, the property each spouse acquires in that other state is considered separate property in the event of a divorce in Washington.
What Isn't Considered Marital Property in Washington?
Items (including real estate and other assets of value) not considered community property are called "separate property." These assets generally aren't part of the property division in a divorce. Separate property in Washington may include:

• Gifts to only one spouse;
• Items purchased prior to marriage; and
• Inheritances.

It's important to keep in mind that an item may lose its separate property status if it's commingled with community funds, particularly if the separate property is hard to identify as such.

 

[UngaWunga]

What is Marital Property According to Washington Law?
Washington is one of a few remaining community property states in the country, which means items considered marital property are generally split equally. According to Washington law, marital (or community) property is that which was acquired by either party during the course of the marriage, with some exceptions. Community property generally includes:

• All earnings of either spouse during the marriage (including interest on investments, capital gains, retirement benefits, and other assets);
• All property obtained with earnings during the course of the marriage; and
• All property obtained with community funds.

For couples that move from a state that doesn't recognize community property, the property each spouse acquires in that other state is considered separate property in the event of a divorce in Washington.
What Isn't Considered Marital Property in Washington?
Items (including real estate and other assets of value) not considered community property are called "separate property." These assets generally aren't part of the property division in a divorce. Separate property in Washington may include:

• Gifts to only one spouse;
• Items purchased prior to marriage; and
• Inheritances.

It's important to keep in mind that an item may lose its separate property status if it's commingled with community funds, particularly if the separate property is hard to identify as such.

Holy shit yeah. I just googled this and apparently theres this thing called Divorce that can really throw a wrench into your life if you aren't careful. Apparently that weird rap guy Kanye West even did a song about it.

 

[leChinkyRaccoon]

What is Marital Property According to Washington Law?
Washington is one of a few remaining community property states in the country, which means items considered marital property are generally split equally. According to Washington law, marital (or community) property is that which was acquired by either party during the course of the marriage, with some exceptions. Community property generally includes:

• All earnings of either spouse during the marriage (including interest on investments, capital gains, retirement benefits, and other assets);
• All property obtained with earnings during the course of the marriage; and
• All property obtained with community funds.

For couples that move from a state that doesn't recognize community property, the property each spouse acquires in that other state is considered separate property in the event of a divorce in Washington.
What Isn't Considered Marital Property in Washington?
Items (including real estate and other assets of value) not considered community property are called "separate property." These assets generally aren't part of the property division in a divorce. Separate property in Washington may include:

• Gifts to only one spouse;
• Items purchased prior to marriage; and
• Inheritances.

It's important to keep in mind that an item may lose its separate property status if it's commingled with community funds, particularly if the separate property is hard to identify as such.

You think Phil insists that Kat doesn't pay for anything in fear of this? If I understand this right, if Kat never helps with house payments, or utility bills, and Phil doesn't acquire anything new during the course of their marriage she wouldn't be entitled to any of his property and I'm guessing just an alimony check?

 

[UngaWunga]

You think Phil insists that Kat doesn't pay for anything in fear of this? If I understand this right, if Kat never helps with house payments, or utility bills, and Phil doesn't acquire anything new during the course of their marriage she wouldn't be entitled to any of his property and I'm guessing just an alimony check?

Oh hell no. For one you'd have to be a real control freak psycho to demand someone basically nto acquire or spend any money in exchange for the privilege of being married to you. Phil doesn't seem like THAT kind of asshole. Plus even if he did, what's he gonna fucking do about it? Beat her? Swing and miss and be all "Shit! Shit!" Then get his ass beat by his wife crying about how he it's not fair, lag, the controls didn't work.

 

[leChinkyRaccoon]

Oh hell no. For one you'd have to be a real control freak psycho to demand someone basically nto acquire or spend any money in exchange for the privilege of being married to you. Phil doesn't seem like THAT kind of asshole. Plus even if he did, what's he gonna fucking do about it? Beat her? Swing and miss and be all "Shit! Shit!" Then get his ass beat by his wife crying about how he it's not fair, lag, the controls didn't work.

No no, not that she couldn't MAKE her own money, but that, they would say, have separate accounts, and Phil would play the big strong bread winning husband not let Kat pay for his debts/mistakes. He's said in the past things like she has her own debts to worry about for instance. Whether that is true or not, who knows. I'm more pondering the hypothetical regarding the Marital Property law in Washington. Like, if Kat NEVER helped him make a mortgage or car payment, or never contributed money to keep the lights on or the water running, in the case of a divorce would she be entitled to the house, or car.

We can assume she has job, but if they keep everything segregated financially and Marital property requires that the stuff be purchased together, after the wedding and does not include gifts to one spouse, what would Kat ultimately be entitled to in the off-chance they get divorced? ✈

 

[UngaWunga]

No no, not that she couldn't MAKE her own money, but that, they would say, have separate accounts, and Phil would play the big strong bread winning husband not let Kat pay for his debts/mistakes. He's said in the past things like she has her own debts to worry about for instance. Whether that is true or not, who knows. I'm more pondering the hypothetical regarding the Marital Property law in Washington. Like, if Kat NEVER helped him make a mortgage or car payment, or never contributed money to keep the lights on or the water running, in the case of a divorce would she be entitled to the house, or car.

We can assume she has job, but if they keep everything segregated financially and Marital property requires that the stuff be purchased together, after the wedding and does not include gifts to one spouse, what would Kat ultimately be entitled to in the off-chance they get divorced? ✈

Ah. That makes sense.

But why would Phil turn down a chance to have someone split the bill? Why would anybody? Seems like one of the biggest perks of getting married. That and being able to say MY WIFE in Borat voice and actually mean it.

 

[leChinkyRaccoon]

Ah. That makes sense.

But why would Phil turn down a chance to have someone split the bill? Why would anybody? Seems like one of the biggest perks of getting married. That and being able to say MY WIFE in Borat voice and actually mean it.

The only reason I could think that he would do that would be that he fears deep down that Kat is actually a detractor and is doing this just to get her jollies.
However, for Phil to do a workaround like this he would have had to look into it and probably consult with a law guy about it, presuming I understood the Marital Property stuff somewhat correctly.

 

[UngaWunga]

He should have listened to Yeezy. He tried to warn him.

 

[That Hedonist Nerd]

You think Phil insists that Kat doesn't pay for anything in fear of this? If I understand this right, if Kat never helps with house payments, or utility bills, and Phil doesn't acquire anything new during the course of their marriage she wouldn't be entitled to any of his property and I'm guessing just an alimony check?

I went through a divorce, it's a shit show. Basically, the other person can just declare "for the good of the household" and even if it's a credit card solely in your wife's name that she had before you met then guess what? Now it's a joint debt. Bullshit.

 

[leChinkyRaccoon]

I went through a divorce, it's a shit show. Basically, the other person can just declare "for the good of the household" and even if it's a credit card solely in your wife's name that she had before you met then guess what? Now it's a joint debt. Bullshit.

Potion, Chestnut and Sugar will be playing the ghosts of debts past, present and future then.

 

[UngaWunga]

I went through a divorce, it's a shit show. Basically, the other person can just declare "for the good of the household" and even if it's a credit card solely in your wife's name that she had before you met then guess what? Now it's a joint debt. Bullshit.

Sorry you sucked at being married and all. This notion of jointly owning resources is pretty wild. Why doesn't anybody ever talk about this? What happens if you had a kid before you get married and then you get divorced? Does she get half your kid too? That's pretty fucked up.

 

[Pargon]

I'm not sure why Kat would want 50% of two properties that Phil can barely manage to pay for himself and a bunch of other things he doesn't actually own but sure, I guess she could be both certifiably insane and stupid as hell.

 

[That Hedonist Nerd]

Sorry you sucked at being married and all. This notion of jointly owning resources is pretty wild. Why doesn't anybody ever talk about this? What happens if you had a kid before you get married and then you get divorced? Does she get half your kid too? That's pretty fucked up.

Ha!
Don't think people talk about it because everyone thinks they'll be together forever and it's not until you need a divorce when you learn it's literally your money vs her money, whoever has more will win.

Second time I got married, we have a pre-nuptial. Iron-clad statement of how everything in the marriage plays out.
Luckily I don't have any kids, that's a whole nother shit show.

 

[UngaWunga]

Good thing you got to keep all your shit when the second one left.

 

[That Hedonist Nerd]

Good thing you got to keep all your shit when the second one left.

I didn't really lose on the first one either, it's what I gained; her credit card debt. 50% of it anyway. She buys a tv for the house and now because its bought 'for the good of the household' the state considers the whole thing comingled. Such a bullshit concept.

 

[Freshtodeath]

The jokes kind of on Kat. Since the marriage his donos have slowed down. I believe Phil mentioned him and Panda had a shared bank account so I'd assume he did the same with Kat.

 

[UngaWunga]

I didn't really lose on the first one either, it's what I gained; her credit card debt. 50% of it anyway. She buys a tv for the house and now because its bought 'for the good of the household' the state considers the whole thing comingled. Such a bullshit concept.

I used to think that guys who whined a lot about divorce and losing half their stuff and their awful ex wife were mostly a bunch of bitter misogynists projecting their failures onto everyone else, but then I heard about that bitch's credit card debt and the TV.

 

[That Hedonist Nerd]

I used to think that guys who whined a lot about divorce and losing half their stuff and their awful ex wife were mostly a bunch of bitter misogynists projecting their failures onto everyone else, but then I heard about that bitch's credit card debt and the TV.

You'd be a little bitter too if out of nowhere you learned that because someone bought a $600 TV you're now responsible for half of a $15000 credit card.

 

[UngaWunga]

You'd be a little bitter too if out of nowhere you learned that because someone bought a $600 TV you're now responsible for half of a $15000 credit card.

I'd be pretty happy about it if I was the guy after you.