2019-08-29 - The LEGO Group: Unauthorized Use of the LEGO Group Intellectual Property - kiwifarms.net [Case #652509]

[RodgerDodger]

If your trade secrets are posted all over the internet..then they are no longer trade secrets.

The problem LEGO runs into is in the Middle ground. They have to show pictures and product samples to the vendors a few months out from the release dates in order for everybody to generate sales orders and get stock on shelves for the holiday season. LEGO generally has 2 release cycles per year. Summer and Winter. These pics are from this years Winter release. Where they run into trouble is the shear speed at which Chinese Bootleggers can copy and release clones of their product. Lepin is or was the worst. LEGO actually won a lawsuit against them in Chinese Courts last year. And the Police raided and shut down the factory. In April But reports are they are already back up.

Some pics of the squalid factory there

全国首例！涉案金额逾2亿！上海警方侦破侵犯“乐高”玩具品牌著作权案

全国首例！涉案金额2亿！上海警方侦破侵犯“乐高”玩具品牌著作权案

mp.weixin.qq.com

LEGO has to show pics and sets to merchants at the trade fairs, but they try to do so under heavily restricted NDA. The only way they can generally beat the bootleggers is to keep the pictures confidential until a week or so from release. The Disney Lucasfilms stuff has more complications because Lucasfilms enforces draconian street dates regarding information release. And that’s not Disney, it is how Lucasfilms has always been.

 

[kidatari]

Nope, this is just the Streisand effect at play.

the reason I know about these leaked images is cause the Lego news on the main page
then I went online and found the Obi Wan set and more images
so, yeah, don't censor cause it will not work

 

[Dr. Boe Jangles Esq.]

Is it weird to hope this escalates?
Don't get me wrong, they're being cocks, I just want a world where Null is sitting in a courtroom being compelled to explain what "based" means to a team of Disney lawyers.
"I'd like to object to the defendants characterization of my client as a 'limpwristed cuck'"

 

[JinzoCrash]

Good GOD, Lego is full of shit. I've been watching Lego's antics since about 1997. They do this EVERY YEAR. They "accidentally" have set images leaked that look like grainy shit, then they pretend to crap their pants with cease and desists all over (to get exposure), then "good" images come out a few weeks later, then all these sites are talking about THEM, long debates on "if we can post this".
I'm telling you, this is Lego's way of viral marketing, and has been for decades.

Those Lepin (and other bootleggers) on aliexpress are the shit. Their quality has gotten up, at times, to even be superior to Lego. You do still have some bumblefuck bootleg companies out there of poor quality, but there's not as many now. I can't even remember the last time I bought an "actual" Lego set that wasn't discounted to death.

 

[Umaibae]

I hope LEGO comes out with a LEGO lawsuit construction set after kiwi farms gets sued into oblivion. Might I suggest an angry judge man crushing a kiwi with a comically oversized gavel?

Only if it comes with a Russel Greer "Vexatious Litigant" figure!

 

[AprilRains]

Only if it comes with a Russel Greer "Vexatious Litigant" figure!

With a transparent "Puddle of Drool" tile to snap on the ground in front of it.

 

[AbraCadaver]

Only if it comes with a Russel Greer "Vexatious Litigant" figure!

The Villains Figures sets for all three play packs include Taylor Swift, a Sikh woman and every female ages 18-24 in the city of Spokane.

 

[JinzoCrash]

Here's why, no matter what Lego does, bootleggers are only going to thrive and get better:

 

[LL 196]

Ummm? Yeah, that actually is a major problem. The Chinese company Lepin is particularly skilled at it. They reverse engineer from pictures and flip them to released product in days. Really shitty product, but close enough in appearance to fool and flood the discount markets. They steal from LEGO. They steal from LEGO fans. They actually stole and released one of my designs.

If lego doesn't send a similar takedown to Chinese websites, then do they run the risk of losing intellectual property because they aren't "vigorously defending their rights" or whatever the phrase.

 

[Dingo]

If lego doesn't send a similar takedown to Chinese websites, then do they run the risk of losing intellectual property because they aren't "vigorously defending their rights" or whatever the phrase.

Lego™ needs to send a takedown notice to thisvid.com, there are videos posted of people doing sexual things to Lego™ man including scat.

 

[usernames can change now!]

Null vs Lego and the Mouse, 2020, the groundbreaking Florida case law that ensured fair use well into the 2040s and the collapse of Americ

 

[ToroidalBoat]

The Chinese company Lepin is particularly skilled at it.

I believe that in China, "intellectual property" is an "alien Western concept" the Chinese never really adopted.

 

[JinzoCrash]

One argument people have is, that Lego has to be this way due to the super-expedient chinese bootleggers getting their product out before they do. Only... Lego's been having these "leaks" / DMCA freakouts since the 90s, LONG before the bootleg game was even worth any sort of mention. The knockoffs have only really had their shit together in the past 5 years or so.

 

[UnKillFill]

Would they be stupid enough to try and contact Disney over this? Disney could have reason to at least send an angry letter since there's a video in the griefing thread right now that Disney wants off the internet. If whoever snitched about the legos told them about the video, we may have the Mouse looming over us at any moment.

Spoiler: Relevant

 

[A shitty ass clover]

Kiwifarms, taken down by fucking LEGO of all things.

would make a nice headline

 

[IAmNotAlpharius]

They must think people are pretty stupid if they think a post on Kiwi Farms "falsely suggests the LEGO Group’s sponsorship."

I’d laugh if Null decided to put up a banner saying “sponsored by Lego” under the site’s logo.

 

[Creep3r]

Spoiler: Relevant

Kiwifarms, taken down by fucking LEGO of all things.

would make a nice headline

First... they came at us with legos...

Then... they came with with the Devil...

 

[Gustav Schuchardt]

Lego forced 'Lego robot' to be renamed to 'Plastic Brick Automaton'

Plastic Brick Automaton comics.

plasticbrickautomaton.com

 

[AnOminous]

If your trade secrets are posted all over the internet..then they are no longer trade secrets.

And former trade secrets enjoy no legal protection whatsoever. Unless you're the person who originally stole them or received them through wrongdoing, you can do whatever you like with such materials. Copyright still applies, but it isn't somehow more copyrighted just because your dumb ass let your trade secrets get blown.

Anyone who obtained them legally can still claim fair use.

As for the trademark claims, nobody here is claiming to be Lego and nobody would think this site was officially a Lego product. Nobody would be confused and purchase one product instead of another because of their leaks being discussed here.

 

[I Love Beef]

Walt Disney, rise from your grave, because we've clearly got some fuckfaces who are definitely shitting on your legacy.

In other words, Fuck The Disney Corporation, and fuck your shit caricature of a fat man vomiting the fuck everywhere from eating all of the yummy IPs it could get its grubby greasy filthy shitstained hands on, Disney Corp. LTD R TM FAG. Ain't my fault you can't adapt to Japanese cartoons that have clearly ate away at whatever balls you used to have.


Also, GRAVITY FALLS FUCKING SUCKS AND SO DID THE LEGO MOVIES