2019-08-29 - The LEGO Group: Unauthorized Use of the LEGO Group Intellectual Property - kiwifarms.net [Case #652509]

[MuuMuu Bunnylips]

Does this mean the lolcow themed Lego sets are not in the works?

Wouldn't one of those just be a large bin of partly-melted blocks?

 

[LiquidCancer]

Wouldn't one of those just be a large bin of partly-melted blocks?

DarksydePhil LEGO minifig with Gout Foot Action

 

[Froto the III]

I need a LEGO NPC character...............

 

[Creep3r]

Looks like LEGO took down the leaked Lego pics that were originally on reddit and imgur.

Also here's another new one that they've taken down from everywhere else.

Its gaudy and I would not have sex with it. Its from that new Disney+ show and it reveals that they go to Endor at some point for extra nostalgia.

I need a LEGO NPC character...............

"STATEMENT: Mr. Null, please take those lego images off the goddam internet. End of line."

 

[Spicy Tacos]

Looks like LEGO took down the leaked Lego pics that were originally on reddit and imgur.

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Also here's another new one that they've taken down from everywhere else.
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Its gaudy and I would not have sex with it. Its from that new Disney+ show and it reveals that they go to Endor at some point for extra nostalgia.


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"STATEMENT: Mr. Null, please take those lego images off the goddam internet. End of line."

There is also the Yoda set and the Death Star cannon.

 

[Adamska]

I can't wait for Lego to send us two copies of bloviating tard screeches over their own incompetence. I hope they do it so we can put them on for spam.

 

[Dingo]

And here's another new Lego product, which I'm sure will be popular within the Furry community.

 

[UN 474]

And here's another new Lego product, which I'm sure will be popular within the Furry community.
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Holy Ash Yam, that's hilarious!

 

[Null]

Reporter's Name: Michael Hecht
Copyright Holder's Name:
Reporter's Email Address: brandprotection@mm.lego.com
Reporter's Title: Legal Consultant
Reporter's Company Name: The LEGO Group
Reporter's Telephone Number: 8008354386
Reporter's Address: 555 Taylor Rd Enfield, CT US

Reported URLs:

https://kiwifarms.net/attachments/1566538059756-jpeg.903399/
https://kiwifarms.net/attachments/1566537419626-jpeg.903383/
https://kiwifarms.net/attachments/1566539168716-jpeg.903418/
https://kiwifarms.net/attachments/1566538717314-jpeg.903409/
https://kiwifarms.net/threads/star-wars-griefing-thread-formerly-about-last-jedi.32492/page-587
https://kiwifarms.net/attachments/1564248607192-jpeg.861789/
https://kiwifarms.net/attachments/1566538336682-jpeg.903407/

Original Work: The entire physical figurine objects photographed and displayed in the photographs are confidential products which have not yet been published by LEGO A/S, the copyright owner, as launch of these products will take place later in the year.

 

[Alba gu brath]

Reporter's Name: Michael Hecht
Copyright Holder's Name:
Reporter's Email Address: brandprotection@mm.lego.com
Reporter's Title: Legal Consultant
Reporter's Company Name: The LEGO Group
Reporter's Telephone Number: 8008354386
Reporter's Address: 555 Taylor Rd Enfield, CT US

Reported URLs:

https://kiwifarms.net/attachments/1566538059756-jpeg.903399/
https://kiwifarms.net/attachments/1566537419626-jpeg.903383/
https://kiwifarms.net/attachments/1566539168716-jpeg.903418/
https://kiwifarms.net/attachments/1566538717314-jpeg.903409/
https://kiwifarms.net/threads/star-wars-griefing-thread-formerly-about-last-jedi.32492/page-587
https://kiwifarms.net/attachments/1564248607192-jpeg.861789/
https://kiwifarms.net/attachments/1566538336682-jpeg.903407/

Original Work: The entire physical figurine objects photographed and displayed in the photographs are confidential products which have not yet been published by LEGO A/S, the copyright owner, as launch of these products will take place later in the year.

So comes down to whether or not they had copyrighted the images, rather than the objects in question. If they had done so though, I'd imagine they'd have sent that along with the rest of their legal jargon.

 

[Mediocre]

Reporter's Name: Michael Hecht

Michael Hecht is the guy in the middle: https://www.law.com/ctlawtribune/almID/1202738225017/LEGO-Building-A-Case-for-Smarter-Litigation/

 

[Creep3r]

Reporter's Name: Michael Hecht
Copyright Holder's Name:
Reporter's Email Address: brandprotection@mm.lego.com
Reporter's Title: Legal Consultant
Reporter's Company Name: The LEGO Group
Reporter's Telephone Number: 8008354386
Reporter's Address: 555 Taylor Rd Enfield, CT US

Reported URLs:

https://kiwifarms.net/attachments/1566538059756-jpeg.903399/
https://kiwifarms.net/attachments/1566537419626-jpeg.903383/
https://kiwifarms.net/attachments/1566539168716-jpeg.903418/
https://kiwifarms.net/attachments/1566538717314-jpeg.903409/
https://kiwifarms.net/threads/star-wars-griefing-thread-formerly-about-last-jedi.32492/page-587
https://kiwifarms.net/attachments/1564248607192-jpeg.861789/
https://kiwifarms.net/attachments/1566538336682-jpeg.903407/

Original Work: The entire physical figurine objects photographed and displayed in the photographs are confidential products which have not yet been published by LEGO A/S, the copyright owner, as launch of these products will take place later in the year.

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Michael Hecht is the guy in the middle: https://www.law.com/ctlawtribune/almID/1202738225017/LEGO-Building-A-Case-for-Smarter-Litigation/

The site gets hacked and now all the images are gone... How convenient.

NVM Images are back now.

 

[Apteryx Owenii]

Reporter's Name: Michael Hecht
Copyright Holder's Name:
Reporter's Email Address: brandprotection@mm.lego.com
Reporter's Title: Legal Consultant
Reporter's Company Name: The LEGO Group
Reporter's Telephone Number: 8008354386
Reporter's Address: 555 Taylor Rd Enfield, CT US

Reported URLs:

https://kiwifarms.net/attachments/1566538059756-jpeg.903399/
https://kiwifarms.net/attachments/1566537419626-jpeg.903383/
https://kiwifarms.net/attachments/1566539168716-jpeg.903418/
https://kiwifarms.net/attachments/1566538717314-jpeg.903409/
https://kiwifarms.net/threads/star-wars-griefing-thread-formerly-about-last-jedi.32492/page-587
https://kiwifarms.net/attachments/1564248607192-jpeg.861789/
https://kiwifarms.net/attachments/1566538336682-jpeg.903407/

Original Work: The entire physical figurine objects photographed and displayed in the photographs are confidential products which have not yet been published by LEGO A/S, the copyright owner, as launch of these products will take place later in the year.

not even a complete DMCA, how is a major company so bad at this?

 

[Liber Pater]

Michael Hecht is the guy in the middle

I didn't know plastic dinosaurs could be lawyers.

 

[Kiwi Lime Pie]

not even a complete DMCA, how is a major company so bad at this?

I believe two prior DMCA request have been filed (and referenced in this thread) with Null replying that the posts/images in question qualify as valid instances of fair use and critique. Still it's a bit odd that after filing two separate and valid DMCA requests -- each with a different case number -- someone else from Lego would submit this message that doesn't even request any type of action be taken.

I didn't know plastic dinosaurs could be lawyers.

Given that Lego sent, in sequence,

• A message implying a request for removal without filing a proper DMCA request,
• A valid DMCA request, which Null denied in citing fair use/critique.
• A second separate DMCA request (to Null as the ISP, IIIRC) in response to first DMCA being denied, and
• This new message that is neither a valid DMCA request nor requests any specific action be taken,

The dinosaur could very well be the smartest creature in that photograph.

 

[AnOminous]

I believe two prior DMCA request have been filed (and referenced in this thread) with Null replying that the posts/images in question qualify as valid instances of fair use and critique. Still it's a bit odd that after filing two separate and valid DMCA requests -- each with a different case number -- someone else from Lego would submit this message that doesn't even request any type of action be taken.

The very first message didn't request anything be done and was actually relatively cordial. Then these two stupid as fuck DMCAs and now this.

I don't think these idiots know what anyone else in their corporation is even doing.

 

[Apteryx Owenii]

I believe two prior DMCA request have been filed (and referenced in this thread) with Null replying that the posts/images in question qualify as valid instances of fair use and critique. Still it's a bit odd that after filing two separate and valid DMCA requests -- each with a different case number -- someone else from Lego would submit this message that doesn't even request any type of action be taken.


Given that Lego sent, in sequence,

• A message implying a request for removal without filing a proper DMCA request,
• A valid DMCA request, which Null denied in citing fair use/critique.
• A second separate DMCA request (to Null as the ISP, IIIRC) in response to first DMCA being denied, and
• This new message that is neither a valid DMCA request nor requests any specific action be taken,

The dinosaur could very well be the smartest creature in that photograph.

Did they send valid and complete DMCAs though? I don't see any. For a DMCA takedown to be valid it needs to include a list of very specific things. As I look through Lego's messages I fail to see the required statements as listed under 17-512C(3)a- for example, no "statement that the information in the notification is accurate, and under penalty of perjury, that the complaining party is authorized to act on behalf of the owner of an exclusive right that is allegedly infringed." Null seems to be the only one following the letter of the Act.

 

[Kiwi Lime Pie]

Did they send valid and complete DMCAs though? I don't see any.

In rereading Null's OP edited to include all the messages he's received to date, it appears than not even the two messages that have sender-assigned case numbers have a valid DMCA format.

What might have thrown me was two things:

1. Dear Leader usually doesn't respond professionally to invalid DMCA requests, and
2. One of his responses included a statement that the response was being made under penalty of perjury. I may have seen that and thought the message being responded to was a valid DMCA request.

I have to wonder if brandprotection @ mm.lego.com isn't assigned to a single person but is instead the generic alias used by Lego's IP staff. All four messages, each with a different approach, have this address appearing as the sender. While it's possible there's a single clueless person on the other end, I can't dismiss the likelihood that multiple staff members are sending these toothless demands without communicating with each other or seeing what other messages have been previously sent and replied to.

 

[Sīn the Moon Daddy]

I think it's time to start looking for phone trees. Lego has so many employees, so many vulnerable people who could be targeted by vicious cyber bullies.

 

[Adamska]

I think it's time to start looking for phone trees. Lego has so many employees, so many vulnerable people who could be targeted by vicious cyber bullies.

Given how dumb they are, I think they might merit a community watch thread given that they stopped being a company that can be taken seriously the moment they were too retarded to properly serve a DMCA multiple times and tried threats. Well that and they singlehandedly nuked their own monopoly to bootleggers after they tarded out on previous companies way back when and nuked them.

Seriously, it's one thing to kindly ask and give full reasons as to why. It's another to try and flex on a site because your own staff are too stupid to not leak out stuff you want hidden to preven bootleggers from beating you to the punch for both about the same quality and a much lower price.