2020 U.S. Presidential Election - Took place November 3, 2020. Former U.S. Vice President Joe Biden assumed office January 20, 2021.

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None of these candidates really shines

At this point, many of the Democratic candidates and their opinions seem such that they make Trump look like the sane one. That in itself says a lot.

Worse, the Democrats since 2016 have only seemed to come up with two major ideas:
  1. Trump bad!
  2. Green New Deal good! (Feasibility and practicality notwithstanding)
Independent and undecided voters will need something more concrete than character assassination of the incumbent and grandiose promises to persuade them to vote for someone else.

-Gillibrand: Again, who? I know it's not your job but someone educate me.
She invited the Mattress Girl from NYU to the 2015 state of the union.

Ugh. This seems to reinforce the comments others have made that Trump may get another term should he run and the Democrats fail to get their act together and offer meaningful promises to a broad voter base and not just their self-chosen woke constituency.
 
The Democratic debates will be a battle for the most exceptional. If the Democrats keep trying to appeal to progressives, they’re going to run into the same problems from 2016. The only differences now are more candidates and a doubling down of the ORANGE MAN BAD! rhetoric.
Also have to remember how many poor baby millennial twats were 'traumatized by the 2016 election, and not total victory for the control of the senate and house last year. All 435 seats in the House are up for grabs this time around, and a huge chunk of the Senate as well. This shitshow will extend beyond the Presidency, and with how the Dems try to galvanize exception millennial bitches it'll be a slaughter.

My guess? Trump wins, he gets the House back, Holds the Senate, and we'll get millions more videos, comments, threads, journals, posts, fucking whatever, from people flipping their shit. Hard.

Side note: I honestly hope Pocahontas is the Dem nominee. Seeing her and trump on a stage together would be lit.
 
Since the wall is being built & it's not finished, the wall has become a substantial issue instead of a pipe dream, that means completing it is a hot potato live grenade for the democrats, because if they don't support it they'll lose potential votes, if they do they'll lose cuck votes from people who supported Hillary. What they do with it is a lose-lose situation for them, meanwhile Donald Trump made it the lynch pin of his campaign and is struggling to complete it because dems have vowed to cock block him at every turn. Does anyone really trust any other republican to finish it? They hate him almost as much as the democrats do, simply because he isn't part of the establishment, so who's to say they would support it either?

It would be career suicide if they actually suggested knocking it the fuck down instead. I'm surprised they haven't compared it to the Berlin wall yet.

Mark my words, anyone in this race who doesn't use the wall to their advantage somehow is handing the victory to the guy who does. If the democrats refuse to support it, demolish it or simply ignore it, they'll lose, because column A makes them look like huge hypocrites, column B makes them look like traitor scumbags at best or retards at worst and column C makes them look weak. My bets are they avoid talking about it as much as possible & that will be the political vacuum Trump ends up filling, the wall is his anchor to presidency.
 
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The guys of Reason magazine think then Bernie, despite being a white man, will get the Democrat nomination.
https://reason.com/archives/2019/02/21/bernie-already-won-so-why-run-again

Will the other candidates let Bernie get the nomination thinking he'll bite the dust thanks to Trump and wait for 2024?

Is there another outsider who yanked an unwilling political party further in his or her ideological direction in a shorter period of time than Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.)? I mean, other than Donald Trump.

Back when he was polling in single digits at the outset of the 2016 presidential primary, Sanders and his position of being against every single international trade agreement since World War II on the inaccurate grounds that they facilitate a "race to the bottom" were still considered outliers within the Democratic Party. By October 2015 his unlikely polling surge helped persuade consensus front-runner Hillary Clinton to downgrade her opinion on the Trans-Pacific Partnership from "gold standard" to junk.

Where are the Democrats now? "It's a pretty safe bet that no candidate is going to campaign as a free trader in the 2020 Democratic primary, setting up the potential for a large-scale realignment on a major policy issue for the party," Voxconcluded this week.

adopted by Clinton, despite being warned against doing so by the same liberal economist whose research is most often cited by proponents — was introduced in a House bill just last month.

Back when the 2016 primary was at its testiest, Clinton's favorite critique of the senator's proposals, particularly his "Medicare for all" plan, was that "the numbers just don't add up." This year? Good luck finding a Democratic candidate who doesn't back Medicare for all, at least as a feel-good slogan.

Maybe it took the election of an honest-to-God fabulist as president, but Democrats not named Amy Klobuchar seem to be divorcing themselves from any sense of real-world constraints on their apparently boundless aspirations. "Now it is time to complete that revolution," Sanders told his supporters Tuesday as he announced another shot at the presidency. The word choice wasn't accidental.
 
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Bernie was legitimately popular and had the primary not been fixed to ensure #HerTurn, he very likely would've won. Possibly even beat the Pumpkin. Assuming this primary is a free-for-all like Dem nominations usually are, he could quite likely secure the nod. Whether or not he would actually unseat Trump is a different matter though. Beating an incumbent president is actually quite difficult, especially during an economic upswing. This isn't an endorsement of Trump or Bernie, just Poli Sci 101.
 
Bernie was legitimately popular and had the primary not been fixed to ensure #HerTurn, he very likely would've won.

The idea that the primaries were rigged for Hillary is a Bernie Bro meme. The reality is that Sanders lost to Clinton by just about every metric. Hillary didn't just win more superdelegates than Bernie did; she also won more pledged delegates, she won more states, and (perhaps most importantly) she won the popular vote on top of that.

There was no fixing necessary. Hillary won because Bernie failed to appeal to the broader Democratic base (i.e: not just white, middle-class, millennial, college students). He polled especially poorly among minorities, and that is what handed the nomination to Hillary.
 
The idea that the primaries were rigged for Hillary is a Bernie Bro meme. The reality is that Sanders lost to Clinton by just about every metric. Hillary didn't just win more superdelegates than Bernie did; she also won more pledged delegates, she won more states, and (perhaps most importantly) she won the popular vote on top of that.

There was no fixing necessary. Hillary won because Bernie failed to appeal to the broader Democratic base (i.e: not just white, middle-class, millennial, college students). He polled especially poorly among minorities, and that is what handed the nomination to Hillary.
By "fixed" I don't mean literally fixed, like she paid off delegates or shit like that. It's just an exaggerated way of saying pretty much everyone in DNC unilaterally agreed Hillary would be the nominee from the get-go, which is a departure from how the Democrats usually select their candidate.
 
By "fixed" I don't mean literally fixed, like she paid off delegates or shit like that. It's just an exaggerated way of saying pretty much everyone in DNC unilaterally agreed Hillary would be the nominee from the get-go, which is a departure from how the Democrats usually select their candidate.

"Fixed" implies that the process was somehow rigged to her advantage, which does seem to be a popular belief among many Bernie supporters. The reality, however, is that there is no evidence to support this, and it honestly just comes across as an excuse for them to ignore the fact that they failed to convince enough of the electorate to get on board with their agenda.

As unpopular as Hillary was, she still had a broader appeal than Bernie, and that seems to be a hard pill for a lot of Bernie Sanders supporters to swallow.
 
Probably the two political things that I’m dreading the most are 2020 and whenever RBG decides to die. It would be a lot funnier if this country wasn’t culturally put through the wringer every goddamn time.
Agreed on the latter. The salt after the latter will be amazing, but I'm worried that Trump is gonna tap a legitimately awful tradcon to replace her
 
Agreed on the latter. The salt after the latter will be amazing, but I'm worried that Trump is gonna tap a legitimately awful tradcon to replace her

The rumor mill is he's tapped Amy Comey Barrett for the job, which is pretty close to the scenario you're worried about. Though considering even RBG thinks Roe v. Wade was unconstitutional yet they still avoid tackling the issue, I'm skeptical her replacement is going to usher in some new era of a pro-life Supreme Court.

Has Bernie officially switched to the Democrat party yet? Because until he does so he's ineligible to run in their primary per their post-2016 rules. And if he actually runs as an independent after stanning for Hillary to stop Trump in 2016 I'm going to legit think he's gone senile.
 
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The idea that the primaries were rigged for Hillary is a Bernie Bro meme. The reality is that Sanders lost to Clinton by just about every metric. Hillary didn't just win more superdelegates than Bernie did; she also won more pledged delegates, she won more states, and (perhaps most importantly) she won the popular vote on top of that.

There was no fixing necessary. Hillary won because Bernie failed to appeal to the broader Democratic base (i.e: not just white, middle-class, millennial, college students). He polled especially poorly among minorities, and that is what handed the nomination to Hillary.
The thing about Hillary is she's such a piece of shit she cheats even when she has no need to and so poisons people against her for no gain.
Whats the problem?
If any part of the constitution was meant to be interpreted broadly, it's the part recognizing that people have too many freedoms to actually list in a legal document but that they must be respected anyway.
 
The idea that the primaries were rigged for Hillary is a Bernie Bro meme. The reality is that Sanders lost to Clinton by just about every metric. Hillary didn't just win more superdelegates than Bernie did; she also won more pledged delegates, she won more states, and (perhaps most importantly) she won the popular vote on top of that.

There was no fixing necessary. Hillary won because Bernie failed to appeal to the broader Democratic base (i.e: not just white, middle-class, millennial, college students). He polled especially poorly among minorities, and that is what handed the nomination to Hillary.

Well... the primaries were rigged, it's just that it turned out they didn't actually need to be. And the later "Stop Bernie" rule the DNC implemented to keep independents off their ballots really doesn't do much to dispute the idea.
 
I think Bernie has a real shot this time around. Most of his policies that people balked at in 2016, are the exact policies most of the other candidates are running on now, but they don't really actually believe those things.
Aren't Bernie's policies largely socialist though? Aren't his ideas really dangerous?
 
Aren't Bernie's policies largely socialist though? Aren't his ideas really dangerous?
Bernie is a fraud and a coward who bent knee to Clinton after she fucked him with a lemon juice soaked cactus. Fuck him. He'll drag down the party, and the Left in general, until he chokes on a shrimp. He knows about the corruption in the party and did nothing. He won't be a good president.
 
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