2021-04-07 - Patrick Sean Tomlinson subpoenas Cloudflare

[Lord of the Large Pants]

Wow. That's actually insane that he managed to get the IP of... my Elbonian VPN service. Congratulations.

 

[I can't imagine]

Wow. That's actually insane that he managed to get the IP of... my Elbonian VPN service. Congratulations.

I'm pretty sure the request was actually just for the IPs of the people running the three sites, not even the users on said sites. In the case of Null, I'm not even really sure why he'd need the information, since he can easily serve KF with a subpoena for user info without asking CloudFlare for Null's IP. The service address is on the website. He most likely wouldn't get it either way, but it'd save him a few grand to do it that way.

 

[break these cuffs]

He most likely wouldn't get it either way, but it'd save him a few grand to do it that way.

Why would his lawyers want to do this?

 

[Useful_Mistake]

I'm not even really sure why he'd need the information,

To threaten to dox him or something to that effect, I imagine. Then again, if he does it, the court will beat his ass, given that the court specifically said not to do this.

 

[I can't imagine]

To threaten to dox him or something to that effect, I imagine. Then again, if he does it, the court will beat his ass, given that the court specifically said not to do this.

Good point. It could also be him trying to just randomly flex that he could get one over on his enemies, even if he doesn't intend to use it.

 

[Caverlock]

Full recording of today's hearing for anyone interested:

720p:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5nX9mm8jESc

https://files.catbox.moe/p99y6q.mp4

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[Useful_Mistake]

Full recording of today's hearing for anyone interested:

720p:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5nX9mm8jESc

https://files.catbox.moe/p99y6q.mp4

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[Immortal Technique]

Full recording of today's hearing for anyone interested:

720p:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5nX9mm8jESc

https://files.catbox.moe/p99y6q.mp4

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@Null if you want to see how the Fatrick hearing went. Too Long, Didn't Watch: judge grants an extra 90 days, and grants motion to service ISPs to obtain IP addresses.

 

[Ira the Weatherman]

How the fuck does someone get $7k in debt and have to file for bankruptcy? Does she not work? Those are rookie numbers.

One observant brotherman pointed out that filing for chapter 7 to get out from under student debt was a smart idea... prior to 2005, when the BAPCPA specifically forbade those kinds of shenanigans. It's possible Niki's parents or one of her peers suggested she do it, not knowing the laws had been changed the year before.

I'm pretty sure the request was actually just for the IPs of the people running the three sites, not even the users on said sites.

If I understand it correctly, Resto got a few IPs connected to people shitting up Pat's father-in-law's funeral home memorial page. Brinton requested the last-minute court order so he could use it to extract personal information from the ISPs to put names to those specific IPs.

It seems to be completely unrelated to the subpoenas to Cloudflare and Quasi. The entire reason they're being subpoenaed in the first place is because Resto has nothing to work with, so he tried to strongarm them into giving up user data. As far as I'm aware, both parties are still telling him to take a hike.

 

[lolwatagain]

If I understand it correctly, Resto got a few IPs connected to people shitting up Pat's father-in-law's funeral home memorial page.

Now I'm really curious about the complaint if he's listing this as a cause of action.

 

[whatever I feel like]

I was extremely surprised at that. Seriously, what the fuck? He had reservations and then just went, "Ah fuck it".

Welcome to court.

 

[Dont Mind Me]

I heard from a reliable source that esteemed internet tough guy and published author Patrick Sean Tomlinson once sucked a dozen black cocks to pay for a cab. Then, having received that money, decided to walk instead.

 

[Fatrick Hamlinson]

Out of curiosity, has Patty requested any other IPs beyond the original 60 posters on his thread?

I'm waiting for the day that Patty finds me in my villa in Mexico. I would offer him my pork tacos, but I heard that pigs shouldn't eat other pigs.

@Dont Mind Me - interesting as well as stunning and brave! Perhaps he also wanted to work off the calories from those black loads, given his health and wellness kick.

Pretty much, yeah. Tbf I am not entirely sure that the judge knew what he granted, given that he called IPs ISPs.

He seems to be older, and the citizens of Wisconsin don't appear to be tech savvy as a whole. He did seem confused by the request in general, and may have given the go-ahead so the D Team gets out of his hair, given how much time has elapsed since their first filings.

You know it's defamatory to call someone fat. There needs to be a hearing on whether he's fat. He can show up, being fat, and deny being fat.

I was completely serious, though. Should this go to trial, and should I show up, I will demand that Patrick be tested for obesity using a variety of tests by a court-appointed healthcare professional in order to ascertain the validity of the "fat" claims on this website.

This was an awful presentation of our (newer) law school graduates.
The judge is actually trying to HELP the plaintiff's team wade through the morass of starting their service procedures.
...Something that they should have started on day #1. Hire a fucking PI team. Tons of ex alphabets out there.
(but they aint fucking free).

Has the general quality of JDs and attorneys fallen WAY down recently, or am I noticing this because of KF MATI insanity?

You didn't ask for it, but here's my two cents.

Patrick managed to scrounge up enough money to hire the D team that he currently has. There are tons of shit attorneys and shit law firms - someone I know has worked for a law firm for the past twenty or so years that has had numerous complaints and public reprimands from lawyer regulation offices, and yet, despite the serious nature of these complaints and reprimands, they're still around. The person who runs this law firm is desperately trying to find a younger partner who will take over - one potential partner actually contributed to this person's legal woes by incorrectly filing and completing legal forms with wildly inaccurate information. The younger partner then fled the law firm before this was made known to the law firm's owner and the wider public. The younger partner is now at a larger law firm in a more populated area.

When the money runs out, so will Patrick's law team. This will not take long. They care so little or know so little about legal proceedings that they've managed to make the judge pity them and want them out of his hair as soon as possible. Throughout the recent hearing, he expressed incredulity at this case and the particulars. During the hearing, he was trying to give them an out with some dignity: they'd prefer the money to flow for as long as it can. If Patrick and the D team continue to lengthen and complicate this case by adding more anonymous defendants who say mean (but accurate) things on the internet, the judge may decide it just isn't worth it to keep patronizing the D team, and will either again urge them to drop it (more strongly this time) or will do so himself. My bet is that this will fizzle out by June. The judge looks tired and while he's bemused for now, I can't see how tying up the courts with a frivolous lawsuit against anonymous individuals and blathering about IPs and ISPs will endear Patrick to him. The attorneys keep bollocksing it up and adding to it, and that's just going to pile on the irritation for the judge. By the time they start reading posts containing Patrick's death threats to various people, I'll be surprised if the judge will tolerate this shit for much longer.

As to how I know that the money will run out - Patrick can't even afford a PR rep, and the legal team he's hired. We're not talking a decent PR rep, just any PR rep. His mother, his housekeeper, anyone - not a single person wants to affiliate his or herself with this dumpster fire. I can also imagine his wife walking out on him should his finances be completely sucked dry by this shit. He claims to be a sci-fi writer and comedian, and has made himself a public figure as well as a figure of ridicule. Despite all this publicity, I have yet to see a single person, aside from himself and this cracked legal team, defend Patrick or present him in a flattering light.

For Christ's sake, even Norm Macdonald recorded himself taking the piss out of Patrick.

 

[break these cuffs]

Welcome to court.

Basically all the lolsuits I've followed have shown that judges don't take their jobs as seriously as everyone thinks they do. The legal system is AIDs through and through. You need to be extremely wealthy or extremely retarded to engage in it willingly.

 

[AnOminous]

Basically all the lolsuits I've followed have shown that judges don't take their jobs as seriously as everyone thinks they do. The legal system is AIDs through and through. You need to be extremely wealthy or extremely retarded to engage in it willingly.

As Darles Chickens said

Jarndyce and Jarndyce drones on. This scarecrow of a suit has, over the course of time, become so complicated, that no man alive knows what it means. The parties to it understand it least; but it has been observed that no two Chancery lawyers can talk about it for five minutes without coming to a total disagreement as to all the premises. Innumerable children have been born into the cause; innumerable young people have married into it; innumerable old people have died out of it. Scores of persons have deliriously found themselves made parties in Jarndyce and Jarndyce without knowing how or why; whole families have inherited legendary hatreds with the suit. The little plaintiff or defendant, who was promised a new rocking-horse when Jarndyce and Jarndyce should be settled, has grown up, possessed himself of a real horse, and trotted away into the other world. Fair wards of court have faded into mothers and grandmothers; a long procession of Chancellors has come in and gone out.

 

[Null]

Update: I have retained counsel in Wisconsin and filed as an Intervener to quash the subpoena, but their Counsel is boasting that they have records about my Cloudflare account going back to 2014 (when we started using it, indicating Cloudflare never purges records).



Which, if true, means:
1. This person sued 60 anonymous people,
2. He petitioned the court to give him subpoenas for O&A Forum, ED, and the Kiwi Farms to identify the owners of those sites,
3, The Judge granted it,
4. Cloudflare emailed me to notify that I had 10 days to file a motion to quash,
5. When asked to extend, they gave 10 more days,
6. They might have just given it over anyways even though we filed on time.

Every day I'm a citizen of the United States of America I feel more disadvantaged than the day before.

Edit: I've been informed that it took Cloudflare 38 days to respond to the subpoena. They then gave me 10 days to reply, bumping it up to the 22nd. They delivered information on the 21st. Incompetence.

 

[Haint]

Same shit, different day

 

[Sissy]

I support revoking nulls Citizenship to save him

 

[Throwing Romans]

I'm really curious as to why they would subpeona cloudflare to find out who owns Kiwifarms - it's not like Null's identity is a secret, and his service address is posted on the site. Is this just attorneys upping their billables?

edit: also Patrick if you're reading this you're fat.

 

[EyelessMC]

Every day I'm a citizen of the United States of America I feel more disadvantaged than the day before.

The Judge is retarded but this matter seems to be an issue with Cloudflare more than the US itself, doesn't it? I mean they don't purge records like you had reasonably suspected, they might have handed over the info anyway, and we already know they have hearty biases in certain areas.
Did I miss something or is it really less about the court and more Cloudflare being jackasses?