Rejected! 2021-08-31 - Isabella Loretta Janke (via attorney): A courtesy request.

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  • KEEP!

    Votes: 3,701 94.8%
  • DELETE!

    Votes: 202 5.2%

  • Total voters
    3,903
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Who of us could have all of our private conversations read and find not a single thing embarrassing or wrong?

Um... Ok, I shouldn't have to explain this, but... Well, after reading this comment, apparently I do...

Look, buddy, there's a MASSIVE difference between saying something embarrassing in a dm and sending people onion links that lead to actual CP. There's a MASSIVE difference between calling someone a bitch behind their back and conspiring to blackmail someone to the point of suicide. There's a MASSIVE difference between telling some crass jokes and sharing video of you abusing your own pets.
 
I know I'm gonna be a small minority in this but i vote delete.

Who of us could have all of our private conversations read and find not a single thing embarrassing or wrong? I know every poster wants to characterize her as the worst person on earth and judge her but I don't think she necessarily deserves ALL of the hate she is getting. If I'm correct there is no hard evidence she abused any animals besides her talking about it and I think she liked to tell tall tales to her troll group and got some kind of attention and validation from them. The other guys in her group are pathetic retarded simps and she probably liked the attention and validation she got from them and they probably only magnified her worst impulses. There have been so many trolls who have gone after chris and tried to mess with him and bully him. The bullying he received is wrong but I also don't think she got him to do something that he didn't already want to do himself. There were signs in his history before ILJ ever entered the equation.

I think she's extremely dumb, extremely immature and done some horrible things but i don't think she's as horrible as her reputation has made her out to be. She did lawyer up but she didn't send a bunch of retarded threats like most idiots usually do. It seems like she and her lawyer are leveling with Josh and trying to make a humble request. (Though in the latest MATI Josh said some parts seem like it could be a template email but it reads honest and thoughtful to me) Even if those threads were deleted the cats already out of the bag and a lot of the damage has been done. There are tons of videos and commentary about her and what happened. I know her and I'm sure her family are trying to do some damage control because there is no doubt she has suffered and is going to continue to suffer some of the repercussions of what she has done. By all accounts her family looks like good people and I'm sure she feels the magnitude of what she's done by how much blowback has come to her family. This might come from my personal values and beliefs but I do think people deserve the chance to be able to redeem themselves. Hopefully she will be starting a journey from here to try and do that.

Bring on my dumb & autistic stickers!
If she were under the age of 18, I would agree.
If she were actually mentally impaired, I would agree.
If she were just a random that got pulled into Christory, I would agree.
She is none of these things.

She is a grown woman who has made a conscious effort to be extremely sadistic for the sake of her own pleasure.
She actively worked to push Chris-Chan to suicide just for the sake of trolling; and that was our introduction to her.
Everything she has catalogued here is more than enough to put someone away for a long time. How she skated through life without being put behind bars is a miracle that I can only assume is due to her father being a fed.

I understand why you would say "delete" but this is not the kind of person that deserves a second chance. For just a moment, let's drop the Kiwifsrms aside and say that you are just a normal person who knows nothing of these people and sites. Now imagine one day your aunt, sister, cousin, or whomever tells you a story about how they were casually molested by their roommate. Now they have PTSD and anxiety to then point where they cannot be alone.
Now let's say you have an uncle, a brother, cousin, whomever that comes to stay with you and tells you that they found out that their roommate was spiking their food with estrogen and now their body is irreparably altered. They may have been rendered sterile and can never have kids of their own.
Let's say you owned a dog or hamster that managed to get lost and the next time you see them, they are a mangled, boiled carcass chucked into a garbage can.
All three of these scenarios individually are enough to warrant a decent trip to prison or stay in a mental hospital. All of these scenarios are immensely traumatic to other people or animals; and all of them have been done by a single individual that is still allowed to walk amongst normal people. Why would you give this person another chance at a clean slate?

Yes, this is kiwifarms and we are not in the business of doling out justice, but sometimes things that should be noticed, aren't. And if the least we can do is catalogue what has gone unnoticed, so that way when people finally do look for it, they can find it. We should be proud to catalogue it.

And keep in mind, if she had her druthers, she would be perfectly fine with pushing Chris-Chan to suicide, and would have been more than happy to throw every one of her "friends" at us in a bid to cover her tracks. I have absolutely zero sympathy for her and so should you.
 
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I'd bet youtube is actually way easier, and I'd guess most of the other content cites back to KF, so go for the source, and then clean up the stragglers if successful. It's not quite as dumb as it seems.

For example, if KF yeets info about her, sure, archives exist but those don't exactly get indexed.

We then move to youtube, which is notorious for allowing bad actors to exploit certain types of complaints. I'll refrain from discussing this further because I suspect the fungoid is watching and she's not bright enough to figure it out on her own without specific details.

A certain insane fake weatherman's brother on youtube has done this to a lot of creators for years and that's why surprisingly little about him remains on the platform. Kelly Long's attorneys appear to also be doing this, but they don't have it quite mastered, or aren't breaking the law, I'm not quite sure which at this point.

Reddit would probably be next and reddit is especially vulnerable due to how content is posted.

I generally agree that tilting against this particular windmill is a bit of an exercise in futility, but I can see a coherent strategy to significantly reduce the footprint of Janke's problems over time, though it does kind of rely on KF no longer being citable or indexed for this incident.
Perhaps, but YT doesn't exactly have a "citation needed" requirement that gets your shit deleted if the underlying source material vanishes. It ain't Wikipedia.

I think it's too widespread to clean up now. Even if her thread here were deleted (which I'm pretty sure it won't be).

One thing I'll say is I actually can't fault the lawfirm too much on this one. They correctly state in their letter they don't have a fucking case, and it's NOT a legal threat. That's rare honesty in the legal industry. The good news is that they probably charged the bitch a few hundred $$$ to write a polite but essentially useless letter to Null. So they kinda get a win off her too, if you think about it.
 
Someone may want to make a post dedicated entirely to the spycam issue, since Isabella apparently considers it something she would rather not be discussed
It's on my to-do list after the academic cheating thread.

The spycam thing is likely the most worrisome thing for her and her family, given that it is a crime and there is hard evidence of it

If the victims of it learned about the video being passed around they might press charges, is my guess? That they might worry what else she has recorded them doing without their knowledge?
We already have the surreptitious recordings from under the dining table of her family talking about 9/11. I don't think someone with a history of spy cam stuff just decides to do that as a one-off.
Bella was bragging about how she knew exactly how many women Mike had slept with, and early on I postulated that she would know that if she had a spy cam in his bedroom (perhaps at certain times, like if he'd been out on a date and might bring a woman back). If I was Mike it would make me a bit paranoid.
There was also the thing of Bella saying her hard drive was overflowing with terabytes of data, of which spy cam recordings take up huge amounts of space.
 
If the threads make you feel bad or resentful, then it's doing it's job.

Consider yourself lucky that the worst you get out of this is a public internet bashing Isabella (at least, from what I have seen). That applies to almost everyone with a thread on KF, but perhaps walking away from the internet, understanding what behaviours brought about this end result and repenting to some extent will be for the best.

Might suck to have people tell you to die, go fuck yourself, etc; but in your shoes, I'd probably realize that if without some major attempts at self improvement then it can only get worse from here.

Keep. You can thank us later, if you haven't fucked up even worse.
 
They can provide evidence that she's a really nice person, but only if you keep it off the record. Fuck sake.

Don't know if you read the Farms, Loretta but that's some first class representation you got there.

Keep for Lambert Worldwide's dumbass approach.
 
Perhaps, but YT doesn't exactly have a "citation needed" requirement that gets your shit deleted if the underlying source material vanishes. It ain't Wikipedia.

I think it's too widespread to clean up now. Even if her thread here were deleted (which I'm pretty sure it won't be).

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Apologies, my point wasn't clearly stated enough, specifically I mean that if the source material goes away, AND the youtube videos citing it goes away by virtue of that strategy I mentioned (which would require hunting down specific videos to target, but once you have that list, down they come), others start to have a problem putting a coherent story together after the fact, which is clearly the damage contemplated by the writers of the letter.

To use a shitty analogy, sure you can't clean up the whole mess, but you can clean up the obvious proverbial cat-turds, visible puddles of pee, and vomit, hoping that the whiff of cat-piss that remains somewhere behind the baseboards or possibly leaked into the floor vents, and what it implies, doesn't elicit further curiosity from the average person. For most, if tracking own the source of the proverbial smell takes more than 5 minutes, they probably give up.

I think you're absolutely right that you can't hope to clean it up completely, that objective is absolutely futile; my contention is simply that I don't think they'd have to do that. With some effort over time you could absolutely clean up the obvious sources, remembering that whether the info is indexed is clearly at the forefront of their mind given they explicitly mention this, and taking down major targets on large platforms absolutely would accomplish this gradual de-indexing goal assuming the more or less central repository, KF, ain't easily findable or is flat out baleeted for a specific subject.

That said, de-indexing the info on KF is absolutely the minimum such a strategy would require to be successful and I'm not sure completing that objective is looking so hot...
 
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When your DDoS doesn't work, try the courts. Yes, that will work out real well. Your daughter made her bed retard, let her fix her own problems. If my children were as demented as yours Janke I would have thrown them to the wolves. You should have done a better job raising her.
 
When your DDoS doesn't work, try the courts. Yes, that will work out real well. Your daughter made her bed retard, let her fix her own problems. If my children were as demented as yours Janke I would have thrown them to the wolves. You should have done a better job raising her.
Her dad's a fed and therefore a psycopath, I think he's doing this more to cover his ass since her fuck ups has made people more aware of the power the feds have over people.
worst case scenario he just eliminates her so he can keep his job.
 
This might come from my personal values and beliefs but I do think people deserve the chance to be able to redeem themselves.
If she made a single move in that direction, I could vaguely agree with this, but nobody gets redemption before seeking it.

As to the rest of your tl;dr, i'm going to write this in big text so your blind ass can see it:

SHE COLLECTED & SHARED CP LINKS YOU DUMB NIGGER!
 
Haha dumb bitch. Welcome to christory, this is what you wanted. Enjoy!

Also, it’s hilarious that she can view a poll on how many people truly dislike her. Almost 4K votes in 24 hours.. how often do you get an actual number to back up how generally despised you are?
 
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