Approved 2024-07-25 - Stebbins: DMCA via Gimp Slave

[CabbageTheSnackThatSlaps]

The court system has proven its contempt for this website time and again. And that’s with supposedly based Utah and Florida judges.

Imagine trying to intervene in a California case with a San Francisco judge. I say avoid lawsuits that aren’t absolutely necessary.

Los Angeles Judge, or rather a Santa Ana Judge.

 

[downloads]

I voted no because, according to my understanding, we cannot raise money like the litigation fund again. I know traditional donations are still possible, but unless there is a way to crowdfund like that again, I don't think the site should dip into that fund unless it has to.

 

[TheDarknessGrows]

The more I think about it, the more I don't like it. And I wonder if you risk damaging or splitting the community by even entertaining this.

No.

 

[daniel day]

Who was it that said Null has never found a hill he wouldn't die on?

Thats in leviticus I think. Sneed, 1:18

 

[Justtocheck]

the only difference now is we’re bloodying the nose of the collective forces working against us,

If you really, really want to do that, help in destroying the per-se pauperis system. Stebbins is a symptom of an ill system. Taking him down is just wasting time and money until another Stebbins appears and can do the same.

 

[MongolianMongoose]

@Null I have 75 posts in Acerthorn's thread and I'm pretty sure your lawyer used my post for one of your filings.
There is literally no one more undeserving of your generosity than Jones. He reuploaded Acerthorn's video on Kiwi Farms just to troll and it backfired.
Acerthorn LOVES suing people. You intervening would make him the happiest turkey on the farm and waste a bunch of your money in the process.

 

[Prehistoric Jazz]

I'll donate again. Fuck this clown.

 

[Thé au lait]

If I'm understanding this correctly, not intervening would just mean that Jones can be legally forced to repeatedly sue Lolcow LLC on Acerthorn's behalf? If that's the case, there's no reason not to intervene, since it would cost the forum even more in the long run.

 

[McMitch]

If you really, really want to do that, help in destroying the per-se pauperis system. Stebbins is a symptom of an ill system. Taking him down is just wasting time and money until another Stebbins appears and can do the same.

Your argument is akin to saying the only solution to stopping a one-sided bar fight is to kill the assailant’s entire family before they had a chance to enter the bar. Do the needful now, if this is enough to ruin us then there was never any chance of success to begin with.

 

[Confederate Bushwhacker]

While both of these people are total pieces of shit, Stebbins (The fat Gobbling idiot) is clearly the worst out of the two and must be put to a stop to his retarded litigation cases; lest someone actually noteworthy gets roped into this mess, and makes the Gobbling idiot rich for being a parasite on the legal system and society.

 

[Pendulous Dong]

This is retarded and I don't think you should do it for that reason. Pro se litigants are not going to go away, and if you intervened you would no longer be arguing a copyright case, but a fucking slavery case. As easy as it sounds to argue a case in which someone ends up as a retard gimp if they lose, it's far easier to just tell them to fuck off in a copyright case.

 

[Jotch]

Hello gamers,

gaming

 

[Sam Losco]

I say nah, and also wanted to say, good on you Null for presenting this and putting it to a vote. You're a good steward of the legal fund.

 

[Cane Skretteburg]

@ZellZander is a dummy who didn’t read the rules at the bottom of the page and exactly zero dollars should be spent helping him fix his mistake.

 

[Mankirk]

As a retard with no stakes in any of this retardry, Jarrod's settlement for $1800 seems good/ban enough, I don't see the value in fighting his battle for him. What are the ramifications to you/your site, other than being compelled to agree/disagree with the dmca request? Does the court order compel you to accept the DMCA takedown request, or just compel Jarrod to submit it?

This DMCA seems tied to the actions of Jarrod, if he is used as a stooge for further takedown then I would fully support legally castrating Acer's attempt to get around his vexatious status, and as a layman believe it would present a much more winnable set of circumstances for arguing it as an abuse of the system.

 

[Truly Rural]

Hold up, the DMCA slave is the author of the post? He was forced to file take down notice of his own post?
This is making me lean slightly toward voting for war, but I'll wait till after MATI tmr. This is fucking cruel.

I don't see the value in fighting his battle for him

How come every other kiwi thinks Josh is offering charity to help and save idiot who got himself into legal slavery? His benefit, if any would be incidental. It's not about helping Jarrod, it's helping forum. I don't know where you read it's battle for Jarrod.

 

[The Early 2000s]

Save it for a better fight, and let that fucking retard be the turkey man's bitch boy

 

[victor lasagna]

I'm not an expert by any means. But in following fed litigation over the years, I cannot recall many instances where a court overturned an already accepted settlement agreement. Yes, occasionally the judge raises concerns at the settlement conference. But that already happened.

The court would have to allow you to participate third party intervenor at this late hour, which it has no obligation to do, and then allow that intervenor (you) to make constitutional challenges to an already accepted settlement agreement. Was KiwiFarms timely in challenging said court accepted settlement? Now it sounds like you would almost have to file a 60(b) motion, which is another minefield.

Seems like a long shot to me. Considering Mr. Jones' DCMA is probably frivolous, he is too poor to afford a lawyer, and Mr. Turkey cannot legally represent him- what exactly is the danger to the Farms? Why does this enable Mr. Turkey to file more lawsuits then he otherwise feels compelled to?

 

[CornBogFitz]

I don’t give a shit about some fat retard but I believe doing this would be good for the forum. I suggest we ride the current wave of PR such as being mentioned by high profile YouTubers. Like muta. I feel Null could also get a little more grace with the public by riding on the anti boogie train and making an appearance on the fat retard podcast. i know keem is an asshole entirely driven by money. But I think an appearance there won’t HURT him. it will show the normie that typically condemns the farms without even thinking that even though the kiwi farms is mean, we are consistently ahead of the curve on situations like this. WE WERE RIGHT. Keffles, Chris, Boogie, we all knew this FIRST and now it’s mainstream. Josh could mention the good things we have done on the podcast like the convictions of the monkey torturers even redditors prefer being right over nice.

In addition if the kiwis legal trust runs low Josh could always restock it by posting stretch goals. Such as if he raises enough money he have to do a live reaction of a single anime episode of the farms choice. Clock work orange style with his eyelids pinned open.

My recommendation is keijo

 

[The handsome tard]

To say our plate is full is an understatement. We got a whole damn retard buffet.

I say we observe the situation but stay on our own lane atm.

We arent autistic illuminati and we shouldnt be Super-Autismo