2024 U.S. Presidential and State election thread - I'm gonna... I'm gonna... VOOT!!! I'm VOOOOOTING!!!

[StarkRavingMad]

Trump vs Biden just feels like a battle of the egos. Both not putting country first, hell not even party first, just themselves.

If Trump is acting out of his own self-interests, then his policies sure don't reflect that. If he's running out of pure ego, then at least he's trying to implement policies to get people to like him. lol.

One candidate's policies didn't start any wars, make inflation go out of control, create an illegal immigrant crisis, or allow for crime to skyrocket. Another candidate's policies have.

Also, one candidate has lost significant money by going into politics, and one candidate (and his family) have become richer from it.

Not saying that Trump is a saint or a flawless human being (because, duh, he isn't), but the answer to the question "Who are you going to vote for this November?" couldn't be more obvious for me.

Also, fuck the Republican party. I'm a registered Republican, and as a Republican voter, I think it's about damn time we had a candidate who actually listened to their voters instead of their party.

 

[Dr. Ricearoni]

One candidate's policies didn't start any wars, make inflation go out of control, create an illegal immigrant crisis, or allow for crime to skyrocket. Another candidate's policies have.

Not only did he not start any wars, he was actively ending them. Don't forget he's the one who ended the war in Afghanistan, Biden's just the one who fucked it up. Never let Biden take credit for that shit just because it ended when he was in office.

 

[Fapcop]

If Trump is acting out of his own self-interests, then his policies sure don't reflect that. If he's running out of pure ego, then at least he's trying to implement policies to get people to like him. lol.

One candidate's policies didn't start any wars, make inflation go out of control, create an illegal immigrant crisis, or allow for crime to skyrocket. Another candidate's policies have.

Also, one candidate has lost significant money by going into politics, and one candidate (and his family) have become richer from it.

Not saying that Trump is a saint or a flawless human being (because, duh, he isn't), but the answer to the question "Who are you going to vote for this November?" couldn't be more obvious for me.

Also, fuck the Republican party. I'm a registered Republican, and as a Republican voter, I think it's about damn time we had a candidate who actually listened to their voters instead of their party.

Right on.

I think that’s why the base is so loyal to Trump. Politics cost him heavily, yet he keeps on trucking. Taking on the hate that the elitists feel for regular white Americans.

And yet the worst you can say about his presidency (aside from hypocritical arguments about “decency” from faggots who pretend that the WH hasn’t been a immoral Sodom at least going as far back as JFK.) is that he: Kept Americas borders under control, and only bombed another country ONCE. When his generals started to lie about poison gas getting dropped on children.

Unlike Biden and other Republicans Trump doesn’t get a hardon from sending Americans to die abroad for their corporations. Just listen to how Trump talks about calling the families of dead soldiers and how it’s the hardest thing he does.

https://youtu.be/97ZIHY2QcDI?si=LWIUIc0GYiYL8qgf

“I could diagnose Biden from across the hall”.

Welp, it seems that the last taboo has been broken in the media. We’ve gone from: “Well, I guess Biden is kinda old!” To “Yeah, his brain is fucked! Deal with it!”

 

[Sithis]

https://youtu.be/97ZIHY2QcDI?si=LWIUIc0GYiYL8qgf

“I could diagnose Biden from across the hall”.

Welp, it seems that the last taboo has been broken in the media. We’ve gone from: “Well, I guess Biden is kinda old!” To “Yeah, his brain is fucked! Deal with it!”

"Yes the president is retarded now, and here's why that's a good thing" coming up next week

 

[StarkRavingMad]

Right on.

I think that’s why the base is so loyal to Trump. Politics cost him heavily, yet he keeps on trucking. Taking on the hate that the elitists feel for regular white Americans.

And yet the worst you can say about his presidency (aside from hypocritical arguments about “decency” from faggots who pretend that the WH hasn’t been a immoral Sodom at least going as far back as JFK.) is that he: Kept Americas borders under control, and only bombed another country ONCE. When his generals started to lie about poison gas getting dropped on children.

Unlike Biden and other Republicans Trump doesn’t get a hardon from sending Americans to die abroad for their corporations. Just listen to how Trump talks about calling the families of dead soldiers and how it’s the hardest thing he does.

The worst thing I can say about Trump's presidency is that he did nothing to address the national deficit, but I believe that if the plandemic had not happened and Trump won a consecutive second term, then the deficit may have been addressed. You can't fix economic problems overnight, unfortunately.

I don't even think the deficit is going to be helped if Trump becomes POTUS again in 2025 because of all of the fucking massive damage Biden (or, rather, Biden's cabal) did in over these short years, honestly.

 

[The Last Stand]

And in the blue corner, Joe Biden.

This may be the first time I'm more terrified from a SMILE than a scowl.

 

[HOMO FOR LIFE RETURNS]

Where did Trump go.

 

[XYZpdq Jr.]

Where did Trump go.

he was on Hannity a day or so back I think, some rallies too

 

[mr_negativity]

Could anyone foresee a situation where the deep state has to throw an Uno reverse card and help Trump?

Suppose the deep state sees Biden as such an embarrassment to the United States as to present a national security risk, and there is no viable way of getting rid of him and save face. Dumping Biden at the convention would be acknowledging that everything Republicans have said for the past 5+ years about Biden being a demented incompetent fool is true and would likely destroy the democratic party so they won't play along. Biden suddenly dropping dead in his sleep is too obvious an intervention.

The only way to preserve the illusion of America being a stable democracy would be to tip the race to Trump, or at least stay neutral and let Trump win. Biden goes out a valiant hero to the left. The democratic party copes and seethes for 4 years quietly building a AOC/Gretchen Whitmer hybrid candidate for the 2028 race.

Trump would be much easier to control in a 2nd term. He's going to be one court case away from prison the entire time. If he misbehaves, cutting off the Ukraine money pit, or interfering with the shiny new war America will be drawn into the Mideast he's out and whatever neocon approved VP he picked will carry on the torch and bring back Jeb Bush approved conservatism to the Republican party.

 

[HOMO FOR LIFE RETURNS]

Well Trumps got nothing to lose. Might as well as go out blazing glory.

American Reich.

 

[mindlessobserver]

The other issue they have with either going the 25th amendment route or a planned dying of old age is Kamala will become the first black woman president. But only for a few months and by succession. The democrats have had an erection for this "first" for awhile now and probably cannot stand the thought of an asterix being put on it for all history.

 

[Dr. Ricearoni]

Could anyone foresee a situation where the deep state has to throw an Uno reverse card and help Trump?

Suppose the deep state sees Biden as such an embarrassment to the United States as to present a national security risk, and there is no viable way of getting rid of him and save face. Dumping Biden at the convention would be acknowledging that everything Republicans have said for the past 5+ years about Biden being a demented incompetent fool is true and would likely destroy the democratic party so they won't play along. Biden suddenly dropping dead in his sleep is too obvious an intervention.

The only way to preserve the illusion of America being a stable democracy would be to tip the race to Trump, or at least stay neutral and let Trump win. Biden goes out a valiant hero to the left. The democratic party copes and seethes for 4 years quietly building a AOC/Gretchen Whitmer hybrid candidate for the 2028 race.

Trump would be much easier to control in a 2nd term. He's going to be one court case away from prison the entire time. If he misbehaves, cutting off the Ukraine money pit, or interfering with the shiny new war America will be drawn into the Mideast he's out and whatever neocon approved VP he picked will carry on the torch and bring back Jeb Bush approved conservatism to the Republican party.

That would require them to swallow their pride first, and the queue for things for democrats to cram down their throats is already very, very long

 

[BULLY HUNTER_78]

Honestly, I can’t vote for Trump anymore after he fought with Biden during the debate to see who can deepthroat Israel’s cock harder. That and his abandonment of the J6 political prisoners, Snowden, and Assange.

The positives of a Trump second term is he’ll make life harder for the deep state (especially the IRS, FBI, and CIA) and make people I hate seethe. The positives of Biden fortifying his way into a second term is it pushes us closer to civil war and federal collapse. Frankly, neither are worth voting for.

 

[Anasûrimbor Kellhus]

Could anyone foresee a situation where the deep state has to throw an Uno reverse card and help Trump?

Suppose the deep state sees Biden as such an embarrassment to the United States as to present a national security risk, and there is no viable way of getting rid of him and save face. Dumping Biden at the convention would be acknowledging that everything Republicans have said for the past 5+ years about Biden being a demented incompetent fool is true and would likely destroy the democratic party so they won't play along. Biden suddenly dropping dead in his sleep is too obvious an intervention.

The only way to preserve the illusion of America being a stable democracy would be to tip the race to Trump, or at least stay neutral and let Trump win. Biden goes out a valiant hero to the left. The democratic party copes and seethes for 4 years quietly building a AOC/Gretchen Whitmer hybrid candidate for the 2028 race.

Trump would be much easier to control in a 2nd term. He's going to be one court case away from prison the entire time. If he misbehaves, cutting off the Ukraine money pit, or interfering with the shiny new war America will be drawn into the Mideast he's out and whatever neocon approved VP he picked will carry on the torch and bring back Jeb Bush approved conservatism to the Republican party.

Unfortunately no. They’re child fiddling molochian cultists they’ll gladly let it all burn down instead of admit their kid diddling cult is wrong about anything

 

[Napoleon Bonerfart]

Could anyone foresee a situation where the deep state has to throw an Uno reverse card and help Trump?

If you think that the president of the United States has any level of control over the deep state, then I'm very jealous that someone like you can live the rest of their life believing their vote mattered.

 

[SIMIΔN]

Could anyone foresee a situation where the deep state has to throw an Uno reverse card and help Trump?

Yes, if Kennedy managed to get electors, and neither party had a majority, they'd support Trump over the "compromise" candidate with a likely vendetta against Glowies.

Trump would be much easier to control in a 2nd term. He's going to be one court case away from prison the entire time. If he misbehaves, cutting off the Ukraine money pit, or interfering with the shiny new war America will be drawn into the Mideast he's out and whatever neocon approved VP he picked will carry on the torch and bring back Jeb Bush approved conservatism to the Republican party.

You make a good point. But the same is true for demented Biden, without the pesky problem of Trump working against their control.

Well Trumps got nothing to lose. Might as well as go out blazing glory.

If America can't have the Cincinnatus it needs, then it deserves a Caesar.

 

[HOMO FOR LIFE RETURNS]

Yes, if Kennedy managed to get electors, and neither party had a majority, they'd support Trump over the "compromise" candidate with a likely vendetta against Glowies.

You make a good point. But the same is true for demented Biden, without the pesky problem of Trump working against their control.

If America can't have the Cincinnatus it needs, then it deserves a Caesar.

The entire establishment is gunning for Trump anyway. He should go AWOL and just do et. Minecraft this earth.

 

[Dr. Ricearoni]

The golf argument has escalated.

God I hope this actually happens. You could make a movie about a plot like this. If Biden doesn't take the challenge it's so fucking Joever.

 

[RisingPhoenix]

One of my liberal boomer friends posted a meme saying "Even if he falls asleep in the middle of 5th street I'ld still vote for Joe Biden"

We're literally into people being so hardcore that now they won't even pretend Joe is fit to do much but it's still the better option somehow (????)

I guess if you just like Dems as a party calling the shots, but I can't say this 4 year term really instills much confidence in that method.

 

[Dr. Ricearoni]

One of my liberal boomer friends posted a meme saying "Even if he falls asleep in the middle of 5th street I'ld still vote for Joe Biden"

We're literally into people being so hardcore that now they won't even pretend Joe is fit to do much but it's still the better option somehow (????)

I guess if you just like Dems as a party calling the shots, but I can't say this 4 year term really instills much confidence in that method.

I've got a grandmother who has severe TDS and I've been devilishly tempted to buy her the apprentice on dvd or something as a Christmas gift.