LGBT 4/10 - Chris Comes out as Bisexual

[timtommy]

His current church with Rocky is a bunch of bleeding-heart liberals, but he didn't always go there. He and Bob used to go to that Korean church before he got kicked out of there for his internet antics.

That was actually a third church in the middle. The timeline of Chris' church attendance is this:

Childhood: Unknown. My best guess is that they were semi-regulars at some local mainline Protestant church. Since it hasn't come up in Christorical canon, it can't have been a particularly important part of life, and there can't have been any major incidents.

Move to Richmond: Attended a Korean Presbyterian Church. That choice seems to have been largely because Bob became good pals with the minister there. They seem to have been vaguely welcoming and supportive of Chris (they gave him a bible as a high school graduation gift) and he seems to remember them reasonably fondly.

Move back to Charlottesville: They joined a freshly opened Baptist church called Grace Baptist. It seems likely they didn't have a particularly pro-gay theology, and Chris may have picked up some of his homophobia from them. But I think his Father was the main source. Shortly after Chris started to become a big deal on the internet, they asked him to leave. The details about that banning seem to me to be vague and unreliable. Probably some combination of them finding out about some of the weird parts of early Christory and Chris being annoying when dealing with them.

After ban from Grace: They moved to Wesley Memorial, which seems to be a fairly liberal church. It seems unlikely that Chris got any of his homophobia from them. They were pretty welcoming and tolerant towards Chris, and were the employer of Rocky, who spent considerable time and effort trying to solve Chris' problems, albeit fairly ineffectively. He did feud with them a little bit 5 years ago. It looks like they asked him to stay away for a month because he kept rambling about his nonsense during a period in the service where attendees are supposed to share quick prayers and blessings. That annoyed Chris, and he threatened to stay away for longer as retaliation for the ban, and because he was annoyed that the church wasn't helping him to a satisfactory level. Since then, his interaction with them seems to have petered out. Bob was the one who took him to church, and Barb didn't usually come, so my guess is that his death is a big reason for that.

 

[Mariposa Electrique]

Probably not enough / not the right kind of women in Chris' area. Demographics would be a problem for Chris.

Maybe he'd do better if he was closer to a big city.

LOL, Chris wouldn't do better anywhere with any type of woman.

I'm still clinging on to the idea that he's "dating" a couple of his toys inside his fantasy world.

I think it was Bryan and his GF Chris was delusional about.

 

[Marvin]

It seems likely they didn't have a particularly pro-gay theology, and Chris may have picked up some of his homophobia from them. But I think his Father was the main source.

I don't know, I don't think it was anything more complicated than Chris getting called gay in school and trolls aggravating it. I don't think Bob was particularly homophobic (or really homophilic) either way.

(I don't consider your retarded son turning gay, and then calling him a faggot for it, to be all that homophobic, considering Bob's age and how much of an impressionable tard Chris is.)

LOL, Chris wouldn't do better anywhere with any type of woman.

I'm talking like fetlife people.

To paint you a picture: like imagine a 125 pound man and his 300 pound wife in a trailer park. They have a fetlife account and post terrible porn of themselves slapping their meat parts against each other on tumblr and similar sites. Those people exist to a small degree everywhere, and you're going to get higher numbers (but perhaps lower percentages) near cities.

They'll bring other weirdos in to join in.

 

[timtommy]

I don't know, I don't think it was anything more complicated than Chris getting called gay in school and trolls aggravating it. I don't think Bob was particularly homophobic (or really homophilic) either way.

(I don't consider your exceptional son turning gay, and then calling him a faggot for it, to be all that homophobic, considering Bob's age and how much of an impressionable tard Chris is.)

The reasons I hypothesized that were that Chris occasionally cited his father on his homophobic rants, and the weird "principal was gay and picked on me" incident at the Greene County school, which seems likely to have been influenced by Bob.

But I do agree with your general premise. My theory is that his father was a source of his homophobia, not the reason he was obsessed with it for so long. Absent trolls and bullies, Chris wouldn't have given homosexuality much thought. If probed, his views probably would have echoed his parents old school mild homophobia, but it wouldn't have been an issue for him at all.

 

[Mr. Pickles]

Honestly I sincerely doubt Chris knows what a bisexual even is.

I wouldn't be surprised to learn he thought it was just synonymous with lesbian, especially since Chris only knows what pop culture tells him, and pop culture barely knows what bisexuality is. Chris is a misandrist and that's actually been pretty consistent, dude hates men so much he doesn't want to be one himself, but actually transitioning would require... effort, so he doesn't do it even though I checked and I believe he's on both Medicaid and Medicare. Medicaid covers hormones, and Medicare covers the surgery itself, so the transition is something he could do, but again, actual effort, seeing doctors, jumping through legal hoops, those all involve actually DOING something.

 

[ChurchOfGodBear]

The reasons I hypothesized that were that Chris occasionally cited his father on his homophobic rants, and the weird "principal was gay and picked on me" incident at the Greene County school, which seems likely to have been influenced by Bob.

But I do agree with your general premise. My theory is that his father was a source of his homophobia, not the reason he was obsessed with it for so long. Absent trolls and bullies, Chris wouldn't have given homosexuality much thought. If probed, his views probably would have echoed his parents old school mild homophobia, but it wouldn't have been an issue for him at all.

I don't see any need to rule out Barb influence just yet. She's never shown any sign of positive feelings toward gays. If anything, she seems like the type who would dislike gay men because a gay man was a man she couldn't fuck.

 

[Mr. Pickles]

I don't think Barb needs a reason to dislike someone, they just have to be an individual who isn't herself or Chris not currently giving them money.

 

[Done]

His current church with Rocky is a bunch of bleeding-heart liberals, but he didn't always go there. He and Bob used to go to that Korean church before he got kicked out of there for his internet antics.

The Korean Church was back when he was living with Bob in a different school district, he didn't get banned from there, he simply moved back to Ruckersville when he graduated High school.

 

[idosometimes]

Bob hated fags and Chris learned from that. Bob blamed the homos for Nathaniel Greene and Game Place. Maybe his mom had some influence too, but that is not certain. In any case, Chris already saw homos as wrong by default. He blamed them for his problem because it was an easy answer for a man who is not even of average intelligence. It all made sense. He knew homos were bad and knew that he was always in the right, so calling a person who wronged him a homo made it clear who was to be blamed and who was blameless. Even when it made no sense. Chris did not like lesbians for a bit because a lesbian would not be his heartsweet. Because he was entitled to that.

Homo became a worse version of male jerk. He would put up with men to an extent, but homos were just the worst. Worse than vampires. Suck someone's blood and turn them into the living dead? Well, Chris would deal with that on a case by case basis. Suck on a nice big pickle though, and you are irredeemable.

 

[Roachdog]

im straight now and its all thanks to chris
Praise be

 

[Snuckening]

I think Chris's sexuality kinda defies classification. Even in Classic Chris "I'M STRAIGHT GODDAMIT!!" years, his attraction to women has always been completely indiscriminate; any girl who showed any interest immediately became Chris's destined-heartsweet-for-life-who-he-loved-more-than-anything. It never seemed to have any genuine attraction underneath it.

And people joke about "he always acted kinda gay", but mostly that was just him being effeminate, generally clueless, or weirdly, overly defensive about not being a homo. AFAIK he never really acted like he was attracted to, or wanted a relationship with, any specific males, and even now, his "I'm bi" shit seems unconnected to any real-world likelihood of male/male sex. IMO it's mostly just window-dressing for an imaginary marriage with a cartoon hedgehog. IMO his freaking out about seeing dick wasn't repressed homo urges; it was social cluelessness and his weird, schoolyard approach, like the gender-switched version of "Girls, eww! Cooties!!"

I think the shit Chris says about his sexuality have always been all just about social expectations and wanting to fit in; Chris knew that adults are supposed to pair up man and woman, so thats what he wanted to do. His brain was still in that schoolyard mentality where "faggot" and "gay" are insults, so he wanted to make sure people didn't see him as a faggot or gay. Then, around 2010 he decided to pin all his social disfunction on "OMG I've been a woman all this time!!", and that put him in a situation where being anti-gay was socially unacceptable, so then he was no longer anti-gay. Then he realised that being bi would [1] help his standing in his new social circle, and [2] fit in with the weird make-believe shit Idea Guy put in his head.

Chris has always wanted sex, but as far as who he got that sex from, I don 't think he ever really cared (I mean, deep down I think he's always known it's not going to happen anyway) beyond trying to live up to society's expectations of him.

TL DR- Chris saying "I'm bi" is meaningless. He was always willing to fuck anything that moved, and there was never any chance that anyone, male or white 18-36 boyfreind-free female, would be willing to fuck him.

 

[Mariposa Electrique]

I think Chris's sexuality kinda defies classification. Even in Classic Chris "I'M STRAIGHT GODDAMIT!!" years, his attraction to women has always been completely indiscriminate; any girl who showed any interest immediately became Chris's destined-heartsweet-for-life-who-he-loved-more-than-anything. It never seemed to have any genuine attraction underneath it.

And people joke about "he always acted kinda gay", but mostly that was just him being effeminate, generally clueless, or weirdly, overly defensive about not being a homo. AFAIK he never really acted like he was attracted to, or wanted a relationship with, any specific males, and even now, his "I'm bi" shit seems unconnected to any real-world likelihood of male/male sex. IMO it's mostly just window-dressing for an imaginary marriage with a cartoon hedgehog. IMO his freaking out about seeing dick wasn't repressed homo urges; it was social cluelessness and his weird, schoolyard approach, like the gender-switched version of "Girls, eww! Cooties!!"

I think the shit Chris says about his sexuality have always been all just about social expectations and wanting to fit in; Chris knew that adults are supposed to pair up man and woman, so thats what he wanted to do. His brain was still in that schoolyard mentality where "faggot" and "gay" are insults, so he wanted to make sure people didn't see him as a faggot or gay. Then, around 2010 he decided to pin all his social disfunction on "OMG I've been a woman all this time!!", and that put him in a situation where being anti-gay was socially unacceptable, so then he was no longer anti-gay. Then he realised that being bi would [1] help his standing in his new social circle, and [2] fit in with the weird make-believe shit Idea Guy put in his head.

Chris has always wanted sex, but as far as who he got that sex from, I don 't think he ever really cared (I mean, deep down I think he's always known it's not going to happen anyway) beyond trying to live up to society's expectations of him.

TL DR- Chris saying "I'm bi" is meaningless. He was always willing to fuck anything that moved, and there was never any chance that anyone, male or white 18-36 boyfreind-free female, would be willing to fuck him.

Did you watch the video of the interview with Copitz? In a few instances, he did give him the eye, and he flirted with him. I personally don't believe Chris is imitating a lifetime movie, "this is what girls are supposed to do". I think he's always craved romantic relationships with men, and now that Barb is becoming more unglued from reality and can no longer judge him, he's trying to explore his options. I do believe the relationship with him and his imaginary, polyamorous couple is a sign of insanity, but it's also a safety net for rejection so he can say, "Damn you Magi-Chan, I know you love me but stop ruining my ability to score before we move into da vacation house!" Chris' delusions about being setsy lady being cat-called by brute males probably started at that Fagfest when Spinalpalm picked him up, and all the dudes were giving him physical affection. It probably sparked a long, buried homoerotic component in Chris' delusional little mind. I'm all for Chris having fans, but we even saw some innocent ribbing with Bryan turn into the Twitter version of the wallflower. Chris does the same thing with men as he does with women, and that's misinterpreted even innocent/joking flirtation as a sign of genuine affection.
Before anyone says that he was after Bryan's girlfriend or it was the ideaguy, go back and watch the copitz video where Chris passively advertises his interests in bottoming, or even the tweets from Copitz where a supposed lesbian, female soul delusionally brags about men being flattered after he kissed them.

 

[RevolutionaryChocolate]

Does Chris even know what sex is, let alone sexuality?

 

[The Un-Clit]

Does Chris even know what sex is, let alone sexuality?

Methinks you must be a bit of a newcomer to the decade+ shitshow that is the life of Christian Weston Chandler, aka the original "Virgin With Rage"tm who finally went to a hooker to tear off his V-patch some years ago.

Mind you with the trooning out and all the various sweetheart switcharoos the last couple years it's almost understandable to think he has no real idea of what plain ol' sex is about any more.

 

[Chuggernaut]

TL DR- Chris saying "I'm bi" is meaningless. He was always willing to fuck anything that moved, and there was never any chance that anyone, male or white 18-36 boyfreind-free female, would be willing to fuck him.

I'm sure there's some A-Log out there who would contract AIDS and fuck Chris so they could say they totally pozzed his neg ass. It's epic trolling, they say as they hook up a fresh IV for their drug cocktail of the day .

 

[Snuckening]

Did you watch the video of the interview with Copitz? In a few instances, he did give him the eye, and he flirted with him. I personally don't believe Chris is imitating a lifetime movie, "this is what girls are supposed to do". I think he's always craved romantic relationships with men, and now that Barb is becoming more unglued from reality and can no longer judge him, he's trying to explore his options. I do believe the relationship with him and his imaginary, polyamorous couple is a sign of insanity, but it's also a safety net for rejection so he can say, "Damn you Magi-Chan, I know you love me but stop ruining my ability to score before we move into da vacation house!" Chris' delusions about being setsy lady being cat-called by brute males probably started at that Fagfest when Spinalpalm picked him up, and all the dudes were giving him physical affection. It probably sparked a long, buried homoerotic component in Chris' delusional little mind. I'm all for Chris having fans, but we even saw some innocent ribbing with Bryan turn into the Twitter version of the wallflower. Chris does the same thing with men as he does with women, and that's misinterpreted even innocent/joking flirtation as a sign of genuine affection.
Before anyone says that he was after Bryan's girlfriend or it was the ideaguy, go back and watch the copitz video where Chris passively advertises his interests in bottoming, or even the tweets from Copitz where a supposed lesbian, female soul delusionally brags about men being flattered after he kissed them.

Was he flirting, or just trying to act out how he thinks a woman is supposed to act? His comics, as well a past interactions with theoretical exes make it pretty clear Chris thinks "acting like a woman" = batting your eyelashes, coy smiles, and having a keen interest in shopping and flowers.

idk; maybe Chris is open to sex with men now- it'd definitely make sense for him to try expand his options at this point. It'd be interesting to see how it played out if some dude did genuinely try to hit on him. But even if he was flirting with Copitz, I have a hard time seeing that as being any more indicative of real attraction than "I wuv you Iveeee!!" or any of the other times he feigned attraction/connection with screamingly obvious trolls. With Chris, I have a hard time seeing any of his interactions with others as being genuine (except anger, sometimes. But even that seems like a LARP often; all that "I'm so ANGRY!! GRRR!!" [clenched fist waved menacingly] shit with various trolls). Like his approach to Sweethearts, that LARPed anger seemed like mostly being about presenting himself to society a certain way (a tough guy who doesn't take shit, and someone desirable/functional enough to have a GF, respectively), more than being about Chris's genuine feelings.

 

[Mariposa Electrique]

Was he flirting, or just trying to act out how he thinks a woman is supposed to act? His comics, as well a past interactions with theoretical exes make it pretty clear Chris thinks "acting like a woman" = batting your eyelashes, coy smiles, and having a keen interest in shopping and flowers.

Makes no sense because there are some videos or interviews where he clearly won't flirt with men, yet there are some other videos where if the guy in question is a decent looking white man/boy, Chris will flirt with them. As you said that was also theoretic exes, I think it's funny that Chris didn't show this behavior until bronycon, which was a long time after he transitioned into an unkempt seaweed monster. All I hear is, Chris has an aversion to males and male bodies, except for the exceptions where he's giggling like a schoolgirl in heat at Bronycon and more recently with copitz. He was obsessed with his physical contact at Bronycon, yet it's explained away by the flavor of the month excuse. Now, once again, with Copitz, he's only doing it because that's how girls are supposed to behave after they announce their bisexuality through social media. Like his polyamorous relationship with whatever Sonichus they are, it makes no sense. If it makes no sense, then the simplest explanation is usually correct. It's called parsimony.

 

[Gentrify]

Finally, now's my chance

 

[Marvin]

Makes no sense because there are some videos or interviews where he clearly won't flirt with men, yet there are some other videos where if the guy in question is a decent looking white man/boy, Chris will flirt with them. As you said that was also theoretic exes, I think it's funny that Chris didn't show this behavior until bronycon, which was a long time after he transitioned into an unkempt seaweed monster. All I hear is, Chris has an aversion to males and male bodies, except for the exceptions where he's giggling like a schoolgirl in heat at Bronycon and more recently with copitz. He was obsessed with his physical contact at Bronycon, yet it's explained away by the flavor of the month excuse. Now, once again, with Copitz, he's only doing it because that's how girls are supposed to behave after they announce their bisexuality through social media. Like his polyamorous relationship with whatever Sonichus they are, it makes no sense. If it makes no sense, then the simplest explanation is usually correct. It's called parsimony.

Prior to idea guy, I think the simplest explanation is that Chris was straight and simply had a schoolyard understanding of "gay" as an insult.

Chris' weird behavior since idea guy has indeed shown him to be more open to being in relationships with men. But that behavior is more like a sexually abused child than an honest expression of Chris' sexuality.

It parallels Chris' financial issues over the same period. Pretty sure someone committed some serious felonies against Chris.

 

[ToroidalBoat]

Does Chris even know what sex is, let alone sexuality?

I think it's pretty simple: Chris is mentally around 10.