4CHAN COMMUNITY SUPPORT LLC and LOLCOW, LLC, d/b/a KIWI FARMS, Plaintiffs, v. THE UK OFFICE OF COMMUNICATIONS, a/k/a OFCOM

4CHAN COMMUNITY SUPPORT LLC v. UK OFFICE OF COMMUNICATIONS 1:25-cv-02880 — District Court, District of Columbia

  • Docket No.
    1:25-cv-02880
  • Court
    District Court, District of Columbia
  • Filed
    Aug 26, 2025
  • Nature of Suit
    440 Civil Rights: Other
  • Cause
    28:2201 Declaratory Judgment
  • Jurisdiction
    Federal Question
  • Jury Demand
    None
  • Last Filing
    Jan 15, 2026

Parties (3)

Parties
LOLCOW, LLC, UK OFFICE OF COMMUNICATIONS, 4CHAN COMMUNITY SUPPORT LLC

Recent Filings (showing 5 of 30)

# Date Description Filing
13 Jan 15, 2026 REPLY to opposition to motion re 8 Motion to Dismiss/Lack of Jurisdiction, filed by UK OFFICE OF COMMUNICATIONS. (Kry, Robert) (Entered: 01/16/2026) PDF
Jan 1, 2026 Set/Reset Deadlines
Jan 1, 2026 Set/Reset Deadlines: Replies due by 1/19/2026. (tj)
Dec 31, 2025 Order on Motion for Extension of Time to File Response/Reply
Dec 31, 2025 MINUTE ORDER granting 12 Motion for Extension of Time to File Reply: It is hereby ORDERED that Defendant shall file its Reply to Plaintiffs Opposition to Defendant's Motion to Dismiss on or before January 19, 2026. SO ORDERED. Signed by Judge Rudolph Contreras on 1/1/2026. (lcrc2)
It would be better to think of OFCOM not as a government agency but rather a Privateer, holding a letter of marque and reprisal. But the waters muddled further by nature of the fact the UK hasn't legally done this even if they have effectively done this.

Because the treaties have not been updated. We are essentially looking at an entire centuries worth of loop hole finding and legal gamesmanship in this case.
So, how would you go about fixing this century's worth of loophole finding and legal gamesmanship, whether at the Constitutional, statutory, treaty level or any combination thereof?

Do they think that the grand and vast army of the British Empire is going to send its redcoats to collect 4chan's treasure chests of gold if they dont pay?
If England is that intent on reenacting the Revolutionary War, I'm sure there are still plenty of Americans more than willing to oblige.
 
So, how would you go about fixing this century's worth of loophole finding and legal gamesmanship, whether at the Constitutional, statutory, treaty level or any combination thereof?
can't rely on congress for any legislative action so you'd have to rely on narrowly tailored executive solutions like the magnitsky sanctions for melanie dawes, the head of ofcom, for the violating the universal human right to free speech without the fear of government retribution. other solutions would lead into a downward tit for tat spiral like having the fcc banning british Phones from US carrier networks. it would hurt us more than the uk because the british are poor and getting poorer so they can't afford to travel here where as we're rich and go wherever we want.

tailored sanctions for the head and board of ofcom is the only way to get them to behave. and if trump can't stomach a financial sanction, he can write an EO that labels dawson one of europe's worst human rights offenders and ban her from travel into the us.
 
can't rely on congress for any legislative action so you'd have to rely on narrowly tailored executive solutions like the magnitsky sanctions for melanie dawes, the head of ofcom, for the violating the universal human right to free speech without the fear of government retribution. other solutions would lead into a downward tit for tat spiral like having the fcc banning british Phones from US carrier networks. it would hurt us more than the uk because the british are poor and getting poorer so they can't afford to travel here where as we're rich and go wherever we want.

tailored sanctions for the head and board of ofcom is the only way to get them to behave. and if trump can't stomach a financial sanction, he can write an EO that labels dawson one of europe's worst human rights offenders and ban her from travel into the us.
I would personally charge her with deprivation of civil rights under color of law and put out an interpol warrant when she's on vacation out of country.
 

Ofcom has hit 4chan with another fine, this time of 450,000 pounds
 
If England is that intent on reenacting the Revolutionary War
It’d be more like the War of 1812, the main difference being that was waged agains a United States that was already a sovereign state. By the by, Canadians like to champion the War of 1812 because they did some fire damage to the White House while conveniently forgetting the American response was to burn down every legislative building in their provincial capital, which ultimately led to the entire city of York being burned down.
 
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Ofcom has hit 4chan with another fine, this time of 450,000 pounds
450k pounds STIRLING my good chap!
 
I do love me some false equivalence in the morning.

On a related note, what's taking the lawsuit so goddamn long? Thing was filed in August, last response between the parties was two months ago. US justice system is a horrible joke.
The court was asked a very very complicated question by the defense. "Can we even be sued since we are a sovreign entity?"

Judge is going to take his time on that one. Its a spicy meatball and guaranteed to be appealed no matter what he says. DC judges in particular take their time with these. They go to the same cocktail parties as the Supreme Court justices, and if they say something stupid it will lead to awkward conversation over the canapes.
 
By the by, Canadians like to champion the War of 1812 because they did some fire damage to the White House while conveniently forgetting the American response was to burn down every legislative building in their provincial capital, which ultimately led to the entire city of York being burned down.
Isn't it nice to remember actual history rather than fake history?
I do love me some false equivalence in the morning.

On a related note, what's taking the lawsuit so goddamn long? Thing was filed in August, last response between the parties was two months ago. US justice system is a horrible joke.
This is about Chancery rather than America, but boy does this quote have a long lifespan.
"Suffer any wrong that can be done you rather than come here!" Charles Dickens, Bleak House
 
Have we been hit by anything since the initial lawsuit? I feel like I've only seen headlines about 4chan getting further sanctions and such. Or is it that we're such persona non grata that even ofcom is trying to ignore giving us attention in the news?
 
Have we been hit by anything since the initial lawsuit?

Ofcom made the argument Kiwi Farms doesn't have standing in the lawsuit on the basis Ofcom hasn't technically made any enforcement moves against the website. If they pulled anything at this point it would be in contradiction to their own argument. Probably waiting for dismissal before pressing the issue.
 
Have we been hit by anything since the initial lawsuit? I feel like I've only seen headlines about 4chan getting further sanctions and such. Or is it that we're such persona non grata that even ofcom is trying to ignore giving us attention in the news?
They've not. They have been focusing their fire on 4chan because 4chan had metrics on its UK users in its pamphlets for potential advertisers. OFCOM is using that as their in for saying 4chan availed themselves of the UK's sovereign jurisdiction. This argument is far less persuasive with us since Kiwi Farms has no commercial interests at all and contracts entirely with its own user base for cash in the form of donations.

Which is not too say that its entirely persuasive in the case of 4chan either, but the difference is why 4chan has been given fines and we have not. Honestly its rather funny how 4chan is the focus of the lawsuit but our position is the more legally solid. It makes the situation all the more complicated for the judge too, because if he approves of what OFCOM has done with 4chan it by association risks making the situation even more complicated because if OFCOM fines us, then the second plaintiff can then bitch about OFCOM self defeating its own arguments about the plaintiffs availing themselves of the UK's economy.

The real fly in the ointment though is Kiwi farms essentially does what Wikipedia does. So if OFCOM gets away with enforcement on us, then the precedent is set and the UK can conduct enforcement on the Wikimedia Foundation too, with the sanction of the Federal Courts. Hopefully the judge is tech savvy enough to realize the enormous land mine this presents.
 
I'm getting really sick of this fucking nonsense where foreign countries think they somehow have control of AMERICA. We have fought wars about this. Do these niggers want another war? How DARE YOU?

How hard do you want to fight? Because you invited a fight.
The real fly in the ointment though is Kiwi farms essentially does what Wikipedia does. So if OFCOM gets away with enforcement on us, then the precedent is set and the UK can conduct enforcement on the Wikimedia Foundation too, with the sanction of the Federal Courts. Hopefully the judge is tech savvy enough to realize the enormous land mine this presents.
If we don't go down on the First Amendent we cease to exist.
 
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