Plagued 4chan - the Internet hate machine

Will the 4chan hack be the end of it?

  • Yes, goodbye forever 4chan

    Votes: 1,033 18.5%

  • No, they will rise from the ashes, stronger than ever

    Votes: 344 6.1%

  • This will rattle them but it will be forgotten about next week

    Votes: 2,331 41.7%

  • I am just here for the janny phonebooking

    Votes: 1,096 19.6%

  • What the fuck is 4chan

    Votes: 219 3.9%

  • Yotsuba&!

    Votes: 572 10.2%
  • Total voters
    5,595
Dom Cruise said:
Yup, /pol/ ruined 4chan.

I first started visiting 4chan in summer of 2006, right before the Habbo hotel raid, not because of it.

There's a lot of great memories of the site from 2006 to 2011 and it was a huge influence on me, but it's been on a downward trend ever since 2011.
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"/pol/ ruined 4chan" is the most buzzword phrase imaginable and it's clear that everyone who says it doesn't understand what led to the decline at all. It wasn't some singular event that ruined the website, it was a long and slow decline over several years.

If you go to 4stats right now you'll see the top ten boards all involve stuff like anime, comics, video games, politics, television, sports. These are all hobbies/entities that are culturally relevant right now, and all of their respective industries have taken a massive decline in the last 10 years. Comics have transformed into overpriced liberal propaganda that doesn't sell and is only kept afloat thanks to the 20 billion capeshit movies that have been made. Sports have attendance problems because the leagues have zero parity and the team owners are greedy boomers who want to bilk money out of people instead of delivering a watchable product. TV and film are full of pedophiles who have to bandwagon every political trend to distract people away from their own devious ways. I guarantee if you wander into any forum that isn't your run-of-the-mill hugbox, you will find at least one thread on how X's ratings are down compared to the beginning of the decade.

/pol/ is the biggest draw to the website now because it's based around something that is both culturally relevant and inherently fascinating. Modern day politics is a never-ending clown show that is infinitely more entertaining than anything else out there right now. Shit like anime and comics are culturally obsolete; they've been doing the same shit for nigh on 20 years now and it's successfully chased away all their fans save for a handful of neckbeard nerds. Politics doesn't have that problem; it's palletable to people of all walks of life. Everyone wants to be part of something that matters in the now. Marvel comics lore from the 1980s doesn't matter in the now. Talks about racism, global hunger and deep state corruption do. That's why more people pay attention to it.

4chan didn't collapse because a bunch of crossboarders kept spamming fag and nigger jokes on every board. It collapsed because it built itself on communities that eventually grew out of whatever pop culture crap they were obsessing over as teenagers.
 
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Cheetahman said:

/a/ - >HxH? It's literally the only piece of genre ficti - Anime & Manga - 4chan

>HxH? It's literally the only piece of genre fiction worth reading in all of human history. (USER WA... - "/a/ - Anime & Manga" is 4chan's imageboard dedicated to the discussion of Japanese animation and manga.
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2019 memes suck. Chadposting is such garbage.
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>nothing but bans
What the shit, when did /a/ get mods that weren't babydick bitches?
 
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garakfan69 said:
What's up with those people anyway?
"You're dumb if you don't love this widely popular manga made for children, since it's for smart people only"
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Because some of them come from manga forums, which that console wars topic is common.
Another factor was because in 2015 ,all people laugh at how bad Black Clover was, except some anons. When it got an anime, some trolls who get mad at popular series use the anime to get their console wars shitposting to bait My Hero Academy's sperg(the infamous spam of Chad Asta vs Virgin Deku threads).

In the end, both fanbases are retarded(but at least nobody bring World Tigger into that autism wars)
 
God I really hate how forced the cumbrain thing was

Even the dudes at KYM know its forced as fuck
 
Philly Phunk Machine said:
"/pol/ ruined 4chan" is the most buzzword phrase imaginable and it's clear that everyone who says it doesn't understand what led to the decline at all. It wasn't some singular event that ruined the website, it was a long and slow decline over several years.

If you go to 4stats right now you'll see the top ten boards all involve stuff like anime, comics, video games, politics, television, sports. These are all hobbies/entities that are culturally relevant right now, and all of their respective industries have taken a massive decline in the last 10 years. Comics have transformed into overpriced liberal propaganda that doesn't sell and is only kept afloat thanks to the 20 billion capeshit movies that have been made. Sports have attendance problems because the leagues have zero parity and the team owners are greedy boomers who want to bilk money out of people instead of delivering a watchable product. TV and film are full of pedophiles who have to bandwagon every political trend to distract people away from their own devious ways. I guarantee if you wander into any forum that isn't your run-of-the-mill hugbox, you will find at least one thread on how X's ratings are down compared to the beginning of the decade.

/pol/ is the biggest draw to the website now because it's based around something that is both culturally relevant and inherently fascinating. Modern day politics is a never-ending clown show that is infinitely more entertaining than anything else out there right now. Shit like anime and comics are culturally obsolete; they've been doing the same shit for nigh on 20 years now and it's successfully chased away all their fans save for a handful of neckbeard nerds. Politics doesn't have that problem; it's palletable to people of all walks of life. Everyone wants to be part of something that matters in the now. Marvel comics lore from the 1980s doesn't matter in the now. Talks about racism, global hunger and deep state corruption do. That's why more people pay attention to it.

4chan didn't collapse because a bunch of crossboarders kept spamming fag and nigger jokes on every board. It collapsed because it built itself on communities that eventually grew out of whatever pop culture crap they were obsessing over as teenagers.
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Nah, there's continuously new Anime, TV and music to talk about. You can argue that people have grown to be jaded about these things yes but there's no denying on the effect that Gamergate and the 2016 election brought to 4chan. These events absolutely blew up /pol/ with people who have never even lurked a single thread, but still need to start seriousposting their shitty political conspiracy immediately. You can't even shitpost in /pol/ any more without billion boomers taking the bait. The worse thing is that these retards start to spill into other boards and try to make every board into /pol/.

Please FBI, just purge the whole site.
 
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AnOminous said:
Apparently the scrapers/archives are running into serious issues and fireden couldn't keep up any more, having to delete these high volume boards to keep scraping the others.

http://desuarchive.org/desu/thread/3894 (discussion of the issues)
https://archive.li/8hx3k (archive)
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That make sense. Always felt that browsing fireden is much slower compared to Desuarchive or Warosu.

I do hope that Warosu survive. It has content older than both Desuarchive and Fireden.
 
Philly Phunk Machine said:
"/pol/ ruined 4chan" is the most buzzword phrase imaginable and it's clear that everyone who says it doesn't understand what led to the decline at all. It wasn't some singular event that ruined the website, it was a long and slow decline over several years.

If you go to 4stats right now you'll see the top ten boards all involve stuff like anime, comics, video games, politics, television, sports. These are all hobbies/entities that are culturally relevant right now, and all of their respective industries have taken a massive decline in the last 10 years. Comics have transformed into overpriced liberal propaganda that doesn't sell and is only kept afloat thanks to the 20 billion capeshit movies that have been made. Sports have attendance problems because the leagues have zero parity and the team owners are greedy boomers who want to bilk money out of people instead of delivering a watchable product. TV and film are full of pedophiles who have to bandwagon every political trend to distract people away from their own devious ways. I guarantee if you wander into any forum that isn't your run-of-the-mill hugbox, you will find at least one thread on how X's ratings are down compared to the beginning of the decade.

/pol/ is the biggest draw to the website now because it's based around something that is both culturally relevant and inherently fascinating. Modern day politics is a never-ending clown show that is infinitely more entertaining than anything else out there right now. Shit like anime and comics are culturally obsolete; they've been doing the same shit for nigh on 20 years now and it's successfully chased away all their fans save for a handful of neckbeard nerds. Politics doesn't have that problem; it's palletable to people of all walks of life. Everyone wants to be part of something that matters in the now. Marvel comics lore from the 1980s doesn't matter in the now. Talks about racism, global hunger and deep state corruption do. That's why more people pay attention to it.

4chan didn't collapse because a bunch of crossboarders kept spamming fag and nigger jokes on every board. It collapsed because it built itself on communities that eventually grew out of whatever pop culture crap they were obsessing over as teenagers.
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Marvel in particular has always shilled liberal views. You're only noticing it now because you're an adult and you don't side with left social politics. The X-Men have been about social justice since the beginning, with mutants representing whatever identity group the writers want to commentate on. Not saying it's a good or bad thing-- I'm just pointing out that it's nothing new.

Comics *are* nose-diving in sales, though, along with most other print-comics. This is mostly because of technology. Why buy a bunch of pieces of paper stapled together every few weeks when webcomics are free and generally update more frequently? Plus, webcomics don't suffer from the "too many cooks spoil the broth" issue that comics usually do. A webcomic can be one person's creative vision, which, yes, opens the gates for lots of garbage, but also lots of cool things that wouldn't ordinarily make it to print.

Back to 4chan, though: I think a big part of the site's decline has to do with peoples' gradual change in attitude towards the internet and anonymity. People just don't want to be anonymous anymore unless they have either really low self esteem or some really unpopular shit to say. They just value their identity and the possibility of making friends too much. Plus, image boards' hostile attitudes towards newcomers and outdated structure means that they're not generally acquiring new users, just retaining old ones (which are gradually falling away). The smaller and more isolated an online community is, the more bizarre and exteme it gets. This is only amplified by the anonymity, because people can say whatever batshit things they want with accountability.
 
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Nah, there's continuously new Anime, TV and music to talk about. You can argue that people have grown to be jaded about these things yes but there's no denying on the effect that Gamergate and the 2016 election brought to 4chan. These events absolutely blew up /pol/ with people who have never even lurked a single thread, but still need to start seriousposting their shitty political conspiracy immediately. You can't even shitpost in /pol/ any more without billion boomers taking the bait. The worse thing is that these exceptional individuals start to spill into other boards and try to make every board into /pol/.

Please FBI, just purge the whole site.
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The real underlying issue isn't /pol/. Every single time something on 4chan starts pissing other users off, there will always be a group of users who bring it to other boards to make people upset. This happened with ponies as well. Of course, there will always be a few stupid losers who think that spamming every single other board with something they like is "spreading the good word", but the vast majority of the spread of this stuff is because of instigators trying to piss other users off. I think the /pol/ spam is finally dying down, and it stuck around for a long time because it attracted a lot of new users to the site and it isn't nearly as inflammatory anymore. Could it return? Possibly, but that depends on reactions to it. After all, Lee Goldson singlehandedly revived pony posting on /v/.
Anyway, by the time mods actually recognize they have a problem with this it makes it a lot worse. The trolls who were trying to get (you)s are being validated, and the morons who think they are making some positive change think they are being oppressed. That's how we got shit like gamergate. At that point the whole controversy takes far longer to die out. By no means are my above examples the only times stuff like this occured either. 4chan has a trail of spinoff boards both dead and alive left in its wake, since every single minor controversy apparently warrants one.
 
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