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Will the 4chan hack be the end of it?

  • Yes, goodbye forever 4chan

    Votes: 1,031 18.5%
  • No, they will rise from the ashes, stronger than ever

    Votes: 343 6.2%
  • This will rattle them but it will be forgotten about next week

    Votes: 2,322 41.6%
  • I am just here for the janny phonebooking

    Votes: 1,093 19.6%
  • What the fuck is 4chan

    Votes: 218 3.9%
  • Yotsuba&!

    Votes: 569 10.2%

  • Total voters
    5,576
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at this point, couldnt we be using/leveraging llms for janny/mod duties?
uh, no?

LLMs are useless. It's hard to emphasize this hard enough.

An LLM is a very simple system with a random number generator and a filter and when you combine them with some textual data the filter spits out the next most likely word

that's it, that's all an LLM does. There is no LLM in the world right now that can think a thought. There is no LLM in the world that can change anything about itself in response to the data it receives. It doesn't even predict multiple words at a time - it predicts one, then it just uses the one it predicted as part of the input to produce the next one.

The LLM is simulating the part of your brain that turns a thought into words. When you think of an apple and you want to say "red apple" you have a part of your brain that is trying to figure out the best word to use to describe the token another part of your brain has given it.

If you took the most advanced military AI in the world right now and put it in the middle of the woods it would immediately get lost and die.
If you took a cockroach and put it in the middle of the woods it would find a mate, reproduce, and live a full and happy life.
There is no AI in the world that is comparable to a cockroach. Every single AI is infinitely more retarded than a cockroach.

The AI technology we have now is fundamentally unable to moderate an imageboard on the most basic level.
 
>ew! ew!
>a jew! a jew!
>ew! ew!
>there's a jew in my shoe!

>oh dear! oh dear!
>a queer! a queer!
>oh dear! oh dear!
>there's a queer in my ear!

>ick! ick!
>a spic! a spic!
>ick! ick!
>there's a beaner on my wiener, a spic on my dick!!

>shieet! shieet!
>a jeet! a jeet!
>shieet! shieet!
>there's a jeet on my feet!

>what!? what!?
>a mutt! a mutt!
>what!? what!?
>there's a mutt up my butt!

>you buffoon! you buffoon!
>a troon! a troon!
>you buffoon! you buffoon!
>there's a troon on my spoon!

>ack! ack!
>a black! a black!
>ack! ack!
>there's a black on my back!

>tranny! tranny!
>a valid little janny!
>tranny! tranny!
>a valid little janny gave me another banny!

>fret! fret!
>another nigger yet!
>fret! fret!
>there's a nigger yet, perched upon my cigarette!

>paranoid! I'm paranoid!
>a foid! a foid!
>paranoid! I'm paranoid!
>there's a foid on my deltoid!

>aw stink! aw stink!
>a chink! a chink!
>aw stink! aw stink!
>there's a chink in my sink!
 

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if you think about it, how is anything off topic for /pol/?
remember the self improvement threads too? a /ck/ thread on /pol/ would be perfect.
/pol/ was a limited hangout they didnt have the skills to control, and kept becoming a limited hangout for kikes and spooks
Pol jannies were stamping out self improvement threads like they were cockroaches last time I browsed there about 3 years ago
 
i just think "racism outside of /b/" bans were ridiculous and the word racism should be removed from the dictionary because its done nothing but harm
seemingly extremely hot take:
I personally didn't care about the "racism" ban shit and thought it was pretty much fine. Like, it's rule number 1. It has its own dedicated report function. It's basically a literacy test at this point.
>b-b-but I'm just jesting! It's not real racism! I swear!
Sure. Cool. But what about that other faget shitting up the thread spamming nigger nigger nigger nigger or posting random images of AI generated scat bitching about jeets? And doing it in every thread that has any amount of activity?
Shit gets tiring, man. And it's not even like it's an inconvenience. Just call the nigger acting like a nigger a faget or retard and call it a day. Or just don't give them any attention at all.
I think the only thing I do have a problem with with the enforcement is that they don't do shit to people intentionally racebaiting most the time even when it's blatantly obvious trolling. But I guess the argument is that it's a lot easier and requires zero context to ban someone for saying "nigger" while it might take 5 seconds to load a thread and discern if something is blatant shitposting or not.
 
uh, no?

LLMs are useless. It's hard to emphasize this hard enough.

An LLM is a very simple system with a random number generator and a filter and when you combine them with some textual data the filter spits out the next most likely word

that's it, that's all an LLM does. There is no LLM in the world right now that can think a thought. There is no LLM in the world that can change anything about itself in response to the data it receives. It doesn't even predict multiple words at a time - it predicts one, then it just uses the one it predicted as part of the input to produce the next one.

The LLM is simulating the part of your brain that turns a thought into words. When you think of an apple and you want to say "red apple" you have a part of your brain that is trying to figure out the best word to use to describe the token another part of your brain has given it.

If you took the most advanced military AI in the world right now and put it in the middle of the woods it would immediately get lost and die.
If you took a cockroach and put it in the middle of the woods it would find a mate, reproduce, and live a full and happy life.
There is no AI in the world that is comparable to a cockroach. Every single AI is infinitely more retarded than a cockroach.

The AI technology we have now is fundamentally unable to moderate an imageboard on the most basic level.
I get LLMs to do wild stuff in my career for companies, but comes with understanding their nuance and DB design. I do build them to make decisions.

I think its possible, tho wont be perfect yet, but you would get close. have it nuke CP and any other criteria, and design your "spirit" so to speak and let her rip. some shit would happen you dont want, for or against, but it could be kinda funny.
I'd at least like to see it tried. You would have to keep evolving the environmental vars so youd need a self learning pipeline, but i mean, were all already doing this in the working world. no reason we cant with an image board.
 
seemingly extremely hot take:
I personally didn't care about the "racism" ban shit and thought it was pretty much fine. Like, it's rule number 1. It has its own dedicated report function. It's basically a literacy test at this point.
>b-b-but I'm just jesting! It's not real racism! I swear!
Sure. Cool. But what about that other faget shitting up the thread spamming nigger nigger nigger nigger or posting random images of AI generated scat bitching about jeets? And doing it in every thread that has any amount of activity?
Shit gets tiring, man. And it's not even like it's an inconvenience. Just call the nigger acting like a nigger a faget or retard and call it a day. Or just don't give them any attention at all.
I think the only thing I do have a problem with with the enforcement is that they don't do shit to people intentionally racebaiting most the time even when it's blatantly obvious trolling. But I guess the argument is that it's a lot easier and requires zero context to ban someone for saying "nigger" while it might take 5 seconds to load a thread and discern if something is blatant shitposting or not.
i should be able to call someone a jeet or nigger for being jeet or niggerlike
 
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I get LLMs to do wild stuff in my career for companies, but comes with understanding their nuance and DB design. I do build them to make decisions.
you're using a random number generator to make decisions

I think you should be killed as soon as possible to prevent the damage you are causing. I think this unironically.
 
if you think about it, how is anything off topic for /pol/?
remember the self improvement threads too? a /ck/ thread on /pol/ would be perfect.
/pol/ was a limited hangout they didnt have the skills to control, and kept becoming a limited hangout for kikes and spooks
That's the crazy part, because part of the subversion of /pol/ was to generate constant infighting and purity spiraling, to keep real anons(like the ones who are now here and somehow magically the biggest haters are absent) blinded to who is who as far as real user base goes, but when food political threads happened shills couldn't hide in them, because so many organic anons would just post their favorite food while Banting about how bongs dump beans on everything
They operated as a sort of meta where for a short time we all were ignoring the psyops going on outside in the catalogue. I'm convinced at least one moderator for /pol/ is an Eglin plant, because they would delete any meta threads that gained too much traction the same way, they DO NOT want /pol/ anons having actual discussions where we aren't being animals to eachother, and I suspect the shia Labeouf incident is one of the reasons why
 

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you're using a random number generator to make decisions

I think you should be killed as soon as possible to prevent the damage you are causing. I think this unironically.
for the goals i roll it out for, it works really well. I dont have "AI Manager" out yet, but what I do does really, really damn well.
 
if you think about it, how is anything off topic for /pol/?
remember the self improvement threads too? a /ck/ thread on /pol/ would be perfect.
/pol/ was a limited hangout they didnt have the skills to control, and kept becoming a limited hangout for kikes and spooks
I remember there used to be white pill threads featuring landscapes and architecture. There was still political discussion in them, but the jannies started coming down hard a few years ago. I haven't seen one in a long time.
 
Hiroyuki Nishimura. Before him Moot was at fault.
Moot was always a poor judge of character, I'm sure many legacy jannies and mods were just like Rapeape and the other tranny retards too.
If he or Hiro had hired someone competent with all the supposed extra revenue (oh no I have to pay like 3 grand a month out of my 10K+ revenue? Oh the humanity!) to tard wrangle, recruit, weed out powertripping fuckwits and you know also had someone to function as IT maybe we wouldn't be in this situation.
If Hiro acted like a businessman, he would directly fire RapeApe for all the mess he caused (as Hiro can't fire himself), but given the probability of RapeApe being a federal asset, it's highly unlikely.
I got so many bans in one general in particular for responding to obvious trolls with words like troon, tranny, agp. That exceptionally gendered janny followed me across boards for months. At the time I thought I must be going schizo paranoid. It's honestly a relief to see that our perpections of the jannies and their stalking been right all along.
I've gotten so many blanket post deletions on /vr/just because I called some anon a tranny for acting like a tranny... all my threads and posts getting deleted on a whim, and myself banned of course. /vr/ was the true no fun board.
 
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