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I've been enjoying a lot of old time 4x games this past decade due to having a shit PC, like alpha centauri and civ 3 and whatnot. I've upgraded in the past year and was able to enjoy Civ5 and Civ 6. Picked up Endless Legend on sale and like 70% of the dlc through some giveaway on some site.

Also picked up various other 4x games as freebies or raffles like Sins of a Solar Empire Rebellion, Dominions 5, Endless Space 1, Thea the awakening, Warlock 2, Civ 4, and the AoWonders 3+Planetfall stuff. Haven't tried any of these, mind you.

Also got stellaris w/o dlc.


Civilization 5 seems to be more consistent than Civ 6 becaose of the single player advanced settings and mods. Civ 6 seems to be fine but the AI seems to be even worse than Civ 4's.


Might pick up Humankind when it goes on sale someday, and after a PC upgrade.

been thinking of picking up the Eador games someday.
 
Have you played Civ4? Did it come with Warlords/BtS? It blows both 5 and 6 out of the water IMO
 
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AoW 3 is pretty good, didn't like Planetfall as much. Master of Orion 2 is pretty great. Master of Magic is fucking epic.
 
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Dominions 5
A top pick for me. I discovered the series when somebody here described its genre as "autism."

Pros: It's a very detailed high fantasy battle simulator. Lots of unique races/mechanics and approaches.
Cons: not all nations created equal. No diplomacy because death to the non believers.
Sid Meier's Alpha Centauri will always be the perfect 4x game.
I tried this recently. Its too old for me to get into right now which sucks because the quotes that play whenever you unlock a tech are always thunkful.
 
The Galactic Civilizations series is my go-to for extremely autistic bouts of making the map all my color. The third one is pretty good but I personally like the second on the best. And the fourth one is currently in alpha testing with a early access pre-order thingy. No joke though, the newest Galactic Civilizations game is very taxing on the CPU and you're going to need a very powerful chip to run the game with the largest map sizes and 50 or more opponents. Which you want to do because it's insane.


My hope is that the new game ends up being as good as it looks. They seem to be trying to change up a lot of their older systems (the game has had a slow evolution) and make things a bit more modern. There is definitely some jank to GalCiv. Regular Civ is also a lot of fun, I like it
 
Sid Meier's Alpha Centauri will always be the perfect 4x game.
I don't know about perfect. Some of the factions are unbalanced (Gaians and Peacekeepers OP, Morgan and Believers gimped), the AI isn't very good, the Alien Crossfire expansion was rushed and introduced some really annoying shit (alien factions and the Pirates are so annoying that I never play with them in a game, artillery mindworms on Isles of the Deep will absolutely fuck your forests/roads in early game before you can do anything about them), and for being a game set in the far future some of the faction ideologies seem plucked right out of 1990s American politics. But despite its age and those issues, it's still one of the best 4X games out there right now, and mods go a long way to fixing most of the issues anyway.
 
Have you played Civ4? Did it come with Warlords/BtS? It blows both 5 and 6 out of the water IMO
I've played a bit of it. Seems fun and very solid.
A top pick for me. I discovered the series when somebody here described its genre as "autism."

Pros: It's a very detailed high fantasy battle simulator. Lots of unique races/mechanics and approaches.
Cons: not all nations created equal. No diplomacy because death to the non believers.

I tried this recently. Its too old for me to get into right now which sucks because the quotes that play whenever you unlock a tech are always thunkful.
I never quite got into it in depth because of how autistic it gets.
The Galactic Civilizations series is my go-to for extremely autistic bouts of making the map all my color. The third one is pretty good but I personally like the second on the best. And the fourth one is currently in alpha testing with a early access pre-order thingy. No joke though, the newest Galactic Civilizations game is very taxing on the CPU and you're going to need a very powerful chip to run the game with the largest map sizes and 50 or more opponents. Which you want to do because it's insane.


My hope is that the new game ends up being as good as it looks. They seem to be trying to change up a lot of their older systems (the game has had a slow evolution) and make things a bit more modern. There is definitely some jank to GalCiv. Regular Civ is also a lot of fun, I like it
I have galciv 2, didn't touch it more than a few hours. It appears to be solid.

galciv 3's cpu requirement is kind of a well known meme though.
I don't know about perfect. Some of the factions are unbalanced (Gaians and Peacekeepers OP, Morgan and Believers gimped), the AI isn't very good, the Alien Crossfire expansion was rushed and introduced some really annoying shit (alien factions and the Pirates are so annoying that I never play with them in a game, artillery mindworms on Isles of the Deep will absolutely fuck your forests/roads in early game before you can do anything about them), and for being a game set in the far future some of the faction ideologies seem plucked right out of 1990s American politics. But despite its age and those issues, it's still one of the best 4X games out there right now, and mods go a long way to fixing most of the issues anyway.
it's better than civ beyond earth.

dunno if alpha centauri ever got a proper spiritual sucessor in any way.
 
I always enjoyed Colonization. They made a version of it for Civ 4.

 
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A top pick for me. I discovered the series when somebody here described its genre as "autism."

Pros: It's a very detailed high fantasy battle simulator. Lots of unique races/mechanics and approaches.
Cons: not all nations created equal. No diplomacy because death to the non believers.
I second this. Dominions is an intensely autistic game for the most autistic, and it's wonderful when you finally figure out how the system behind it works.

Also you forgot a third, major con: A shoddy UI that is only barely better than Dwarf Fortress, and micro-hell when you get too big.

AoW 3 is pretty good, didn't like Planetfall as much. Master of Orion 2 is pretty great. Master of Magic is fucking epic.
Age of Wonders 3 is GOAT. I easily sunk hundreds of hours in the single player alone, though I wonder how well it holds up versus other human players.

Civilization 5 seems to be more consistent than Civ 6 becaose of the single player advanced settings and mods. Civ 6 seems to be fine but the AI seems to be even worse than Civ 4's.
Civ 6 is best enjoyed in multiplayer, truth be told. NuFiraxis has so far failed to make an AI to understand the complexity it introduced to the game, and I suspect they will never do so. Sulla has written quite a bit about Civ games, and I find his takes to be quite informative.
 
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Also you forgot a third, major con: A shoddy UI that is only barely better than Dwarf Fortress, and micro-hell when you get too big.
Strongly disagree. As a hardened dwarf fortress vet, I can see the amount of polish in dominions. Everything has a keyboard shortcut, making it easy to type out entire turns.
 
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