[6-October-2019] DSP gets a $20 tip to buy Untitled Goose Game, walks it back the next day and asks viewers for shop credit - Thanks for the money, dummy!

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Salubrious said:
Also, DSP said that "he doesn't get invested in WWE anymore." He just watched it as a third-party observer. He doesn't want to deal with it [getting invested] anymore, so he doesn't want to get behind guys.
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Honestly this sort of feeling is very common among WWE fans now, the show is at an all time low in terms of quality with Vince McMahon seemingly slipping into senility with the stupid embarrassing shit he has his people doing and the absurd finishes he comes up with for big matches. Doesn't hurt they do a very give a take style of booking where every feud ends in an attempt to make both sides look strong and as such neither side looks good (unless you're Brock Lesnar).

So, for once, DSP isn't saying anything wrong here, though most fans who feel this way have moved on to another promotion instead of continuing to sink time and money into WWE.
 
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Okay, so... what the fuck is going on over at Twitch?

There's video evidence of one of their partnered streamers going on unhinged, hour-long rant about a patron of their website. Completely defamatory, disgusting rant about something he wasn't even responsible for. And that's just one aspect of it.

The other is that Phil literally fucking scammed one of their patrons out of their money. This guy specifically donated with the intent to have Phil purchase a specific game. Not to pay his bills; not money to take his ugly ass wife to dinner; not food for his cat, but to buy a specific game. Phil even (begrudgingly) acquiesces that he'll buy the game with the donated money. This acknowledgment of funds to specifically buy the game from DJRuno is actually very important because it supersedes the definition of a donation. This stopped becoming a donation the moment that Phil agreed to use that money to buy the game, especially that there's verifiable and demonstrable proof that Phil has segregated donations into multiple categories:
  1. Crowd-sourcing to pay his bills;
  2. Raising of funds to buy games;
  3. Creation of an Amazon Wishlist to buy specific material for his business;
  4. And donating to support the streamer (this category being the only acceptable legal definition of donations under the terms they should be used on Twitch).
Unfortunately, Twitch's enforcement of donations is rather lax and isn't on par with the way they view bits as they are legally liable to enforce the way such currency is used given that they own this form of digital currency.

Phil should be held responsible for the way the acted in this whole fiasco. It's not right that he's allowed to insult anybody who'd slightly disagree with anything that he does especially when a promise was handed out.

Fuck him and everything he stands for. I know I'm not supposed to pozload my neghole but sometimes it's really hard to stop myself from jumping in the autism vortex to possibly get Phil in some kind of trouble. But it's never worth it so I don't do it.
 
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TheKatIsNowGone said:
Honestly this sort of feeling is very common among WWE fans now, the show is at an all time low in terms of quality with Vince McMahon seemingly slipping into senility with the stupid embarrassing shit he has his people doing and the absurd finishes he comes up with for big matches. Doesn't hurt they do a very give a take style of booking where every feud ends in an attempt to make both sides look strong and as such neither side looks good (unless you're Brock Lesnar).

So, for once, DSP isn't saying anything wrong here, though most fans who feel this way have moved on to another promotion instead of continuing to sink time and money into WWE.
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I'm literally the same way with WWE myself. The only good thing that's happened in WWE these past few days has been Kairi Sane trying to be a tough heel and looking adorable in the process.

It's just weird hearing DSP say something like that, especially a couple days ago when he tweeted at Hulu bitching that he couldn't watch Smackdown.
 
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- Courtesy of DSP Archives

Phil's already trying to damage control the $20 rant incident through one of his gin-fueled tweets, but of course this is Phil, so we know his "apology" is as fake as all his other ones. Lemme just mark down here what we all already know and dismantle this exceptionally halfhearted feeble attempt of damage control:

  1. "It's been bothering me all night -" No it hasn't. Phil meant exactly what he said. He got caught in the middle of his scam and knew that detractors and fans would both hone in on his response. Now he's trying to scrub it all away with a bullshit tweet. And of course he's using gif images; the kinds LOVE them, dood! It makes me look more sincere, ACK ACK ACK!

  2. "I hate and don't like being fooled-" It's here that we know what he's apologizing for. He's not apologizing for taking a viewers money and going back on his promises to get the game DJRuno dropped money for Phil to play, he's apologizing that he got caught. He still blames DJRuno for the illicit crime of having Phil play something he paid for. But remember, he didn't mean it, dood! It was his depression! He's stressed! There's stuff going on behind the scenes, dood! Did I nail all the usual excuses?

  3. "bc I'm already stressed and it sucks!" Yeah, guys, he's so stressed! He plays games from the comforts of his home, located in a gated community, and roughly makes fucking $10K a month while his #Soulmaid actually works a day job! And the never get to see each other dude... except that she's off two days a week and plays Overwatch and Skyrim all day, but that's not important! It's the depression! It's those fucking trolls and detractors! They want to ruin his life and hack his bank account dood! What a load.
This is so far from an apology it's unreal. HE didn't even bother to message or tweet DJRuno directly and apologize. It's very obvious that he's just trying to damage control the situation. But it won't work, because it's gotten so bad that even horsefucker KG can see past the bullshit. He took $20 from a fan, lied about not having money, and tried to go back on his word. And when he got called out on it, he sperged out. Now because this informs fans the obvious (that Phil is a titanic piece of shit) he wants to throw out an un-apology and make it go away.

Dude is honestly scum, and of course his fans are still doing to throw their money at him, despite the fact that he offers nothing as a streamer and has been dodging new releases like Neo dodges bullets in the Matrix. I honestly hope his fans finally clue into the true DSP and wise up, but I wouldn't bet on that.
 
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TheKatIsNowGone said:
Honestly this sort of feeling is very common among WWE fans now, the show is at an all time low in terms of quality with Vince McMahon seemingly slipping into senility with the stupid embarrassing shit he has his people doing and the absurd finishes he comes up with for big matches. Doesn't hurt they do a very give a take style of booking where every feud ends in an attempt to make both sides look strong and as such neither side looks good (unless you're Brock Lesnar).

So, for once, DSP isn't saying anything wrong here, though most fans who feel this way have moved on to another promotion instead of continuing to sink time and money into WWE.
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You know what they say about broken clocks.
(Thank God for AEW. Hell in a Cell was an absolute trainwreck.)
 
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For people asking about a timeline it's all in the OP now. During pre-stream after Phil begging for Nintendo credits DJRuno types in chat 'Chill. I'm writing to Paypal right now' in response to other chatters @'ing him with goads. In Phil's 'You just exposed yourself as an asshole' Cult leader narc rant he does state 'I was checking my e-mail between streams, saw your refund request in German an hour ago, and immediately refunded it after throwing it in Google translate.'

I also don't think it's against Twitch TOS to insult a viewer, unless it's slurs against whatever protected statuses Twitch decides to care about. Phil got in trouble previously for maliciously saying 'Look at an IRL picture of this viewer. He's ugly and disgusting looking with stupid blue hair, what a loser.' That person then reported him personally, it's also a TOS violation to denigrate other streamers as Twitch sees any activity that could negatively impact another streamer's subs or cheers as an action against Twitch's own business interests, so it was sort of a two-fold infraction.

I don't think anything will happen to Phil regarding the name-calling, but I do think if DJRuno himself had reported Phil to Twitch saying 'I donated funds specifically to purchase a game, and the streamer indicated multiple times they would, then the next day were begging for more money to buy the game and told me to "Fuck Off, I had to pay bills!' when I asked where my money went. They are a lying scammer,' Phil may have had some explaining to do.
It's interesting Phil's slip-up regarding saying he would have to explain this whole thing to a Twitch representative, even after it was exposed that TKOH forum post was a fake account and DJRuno had not reported him to Twitch, Phil was still concerned about having to explain himself to Twitch 🤔
 
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Ching_Chong said:
If I was DJ, I would be asking myself why I continue to support this guy if he is willing to go on an unhinged rant like this against me and remain a fan of him over $20.

Any fan should if your favorite person goes apeshit on you.
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The people genuinely supporting DSP, like DJCucko here, all suffer from battered wife syndrome: they’ll keep coming back apologizing to Phil no matter what insults he hurls at them.

You gotta understand too that for a lot of the chat regulars (even those guys who are coming with the intent of trolling) end up making e-friends in chat and come back for the community, not Phil. If you’re a weirdo and genuinely go in DSP’s streams to watch Philliam, the main entertainment is the chat interaction with other fans, not the streams themselves.

Compound that with the fact that a lot of them are lonely miserable fucks, they’ll keep coming back no matter how they get humiliated. Swagginz is a perfect example of this.

Spergy and autists stick together and tend to gravitate towards Phil after all.
 
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I also don't think it's against Twitch TOS to insult a viewer, unless it's slurs against whatever protected statuses Twitch decides to care about. Phil got in trouble previously for maliciously saying 'Look at an IRL picture of this viewer. He's ugly and disgusting looking with stupid blue hair, what a loser.' That person then reported him personally, it's also a TOS violation to denigrate other streamers as Twitch sees any activity that could negatively impact another streamer's subs or cheers as an action against Twitch's own business interests, so it was sort of a two-fold infraction.
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I'm sure someone at Twitch would buy that "pussy" and "be a real man" are gendered insults. But I hear ya, if Twitch won't even counsel him about insulting viewers (a major revenue source) then they certainly won't punish him.
 
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I'm sure someone at Twitch would buy that "pussy" and "be a real man" are gendered insults. But I hear ya, if Twitch won't even counsel him about insulting viewers (a major revenue source) then they certainly won't punish him.
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But you are acting like him berating his viewers somehow deters them from throwing money at his loser ass. You’re also forgetting that I’d say at least 15% (or more) of his revenue is from troll cheers and tips that he usually ignores. The fucking gravitational pull of autism that surrounds him is fucking mind boggling, mainly because it all pukes money at him.
 
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BallBuster said:
But you are acting like him berating his viewers somehow deters them from throwing money at his loser ass. You’re also forgetting that I’d say at least 15% (or more) of his revenue is from troll cheers and tips that he usually ignores. The fucking gravitational pull of autism that surrounds him is fucking mind boggling, mainly because it all pukes money at him.
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You are 100% correct. I was actually horrified that people were subbing to Dark during his rant.
 
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This is probably why DSP was particularly shitty about this. When people claim they successfully get chargebacks, it doesn't even matter if they're unsuccessful, he still has to pay $20. This is probably why he avoids ever directly admitting he has lost a chargeback and tries to imply they are inconsequential:
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Every time someone successfully wins a chargeback against DSP's PayPal he gets fined $20:
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Chargeback meaning when someone contacts their own bank and reverses the charge, not when someone opens a dispute within PayPal internally. You can read the rest of that page, and the protections PayPal has do not apply to anything DSP does, so he would get these fines.
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This is probably why DSP was super salty around the time of Code Castiel and some other people. It's very possible he's been struck with significant fees because of chargebacks. I've also never seen anyone bring up this chargeback fee before.

Chargeback here means the person who made the payment contacts their bank and requests a chargeback, not the internal PayPal dispute system.
 
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neger psykolog said:
This is probably why DSP was particularly shitty about this. When people claim they successfully get chargebacks, it doesn't even matter if they're unsuccessful, he still has to pay $20. This is probably why he avoids ever directly admitting he has lost a chargeback and tries to imply they are inconsequential:


This is probably why DSP was super salty around the time of Code Castiel and some other people. It's very possible he's been struck with significant fees because of chargebacks. I've also never seen anyone bring up this chargeback fee before.

Chargeback here means the person who made the payment contacts their bank and requests a chargeback, not the internal PayPal dispute system.
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It looks like the chargeback is only if you specifically use a credit/debit card and not your PayPal credit. Not saying that to try and disprove anything, just clarifying. I'd be curious to know how often Phil just issues a refund like he did with the untitled Goose $20 doner to avoid chargeback fees. It would also be the kind of dumb debunking pig logic Phil uses, arguing he never lost a chargeback because he never lets it reach that point. It's something that I've always been curious about because, why I certainly don't believe Phil about, well, anything, the people who claim to have successfully gotten chargebacks have (to the best of my knowledge at least) never posted anything showing they got their money back. On top of that, a common defense for donating to Phil is they only donated a small amount/they got entertainment from said small amount, implying they don't view it as enough to actually try and dispute.

I definitely don't think Phil is constantly paying out $20 in chargeback fees. If that was the case, he'd have shut down donations awhile ago and make it so you have to privately contact him and only use your paypal balance specifically or something along the lines. Phil is a lazy boomer, but even he's taken some steps before to try and limit troll donation shenanigans.

Then again, that could also justify his constant complaints about being overdrawn/being in the red. Unless I'm mistaken, if you have to refund/pay chargeback fees or whatever on PayPal and your account is empty, you end up with a negative balance. We can pretty safely guess Phil is checking his PayPal while he's on his phone and he talks all the time about how he gets that money immediately, so I don't think it is a stretch to speculate that he deposits his PayPal balance into his bank pretty consistently. If that's the case, he would end up with a negative balance anytime a chargeback happens, which could seemingly explain how it happens so often. But since this is Phil, it's also possible that he's just lying anytime he said that, so who really knows.
 
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