Advice on building a PC - "Who doesn't need 26 gigs of RAM?"

d12 said:
Yeah, I'm not aiming for 120 fps on day 1 releases, would you have any advice on assembly?
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Well I learned it from tinkering with stuff, but nowadays there's a youtube video for everything. Double check plugs, NEVER force anything in, and don't crank down on screws. If you're unsure about a specific thing, your favorite search engine is there to help. Bonus points if you know someone in person that can help out.
 
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CrunkLord420 said:
Having your OS on a SSD will dramatically improve your performance, far more than a slightly cooler CPU.
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I can agree with that, but heat kills anything electronic. My reasoning was reliability more than performance. Anything over 60° C can and will cause fatigue over time. Maybe I'm weird and it doesn't matter if the parts are upgraded every 2-3 years.
 
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1Tonka_Truck said:
I can agree with that, but heat kills anything electronic. My reasoning was reliability more than performance. Anything over 60° C can and will cause fatigue over time. Maybe I'm weird and it doesn't matter if the parts are upgraded every 2-3 years.
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Thankfully we're beyond the days of the stock Intel cooler....well that is of course unless you go for that. Even then a cheap Evo 212 will handle anything normal.
 
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Just to let you know, @d12 you can save money on the O/S by simply getting a usb stick and making it into a a sort of media tool to install Windows 10. I did that and was able to use Windows 10 unactivated. The only cons to having an unactivated Windows is a water mark at the lower right but you likely won't notice it unless you look at it. Also can't personalize the desktop.
 
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c-no said:
Just to let you know, @d12 you can save money on the O/S by simply getting a usb stick and making it into a a sort of media tool to install Windows 10. I did that and was able to use Windows 10 unactivated. The only cons to having an unactivated Windows is a water mark at the lower right but you likely won't notice it unless you look at it. Also can't personalize the desktop.
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Appreciate it, I just put that on as more of an afterthought. I'll have to look into that.
 
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Just Some Other Guy said:
Thankfully we're beyond the days of the stock Intel cooler....well that is of course unless you go for that. Even then a cheap Evo 212 will handle anything normal.
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I can't tell if you are agreeing with me or not. I recommended swapping the $25 SSD for a $25 cooler if that's all the budget he had. Adding an SSD to a computer is dead nuts easy. Changing a heatsink is no fun.

@d12 for an assembly tip; since you only have 2 sticks of ram pay attention to the manual on where they go.
 
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1Tonka_Truck said:
I can't tell if you are agreeing with me or not. I recommended swapping the $25 SSD for a $25 cooler if that's all the budget he had. Adding an SSD to a computer is dead nuts easy. Changing a heatsink is no fun.
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Was more or less saying I know where you're coming from. The nice thing is even the spire cooler that comes with the 2600 works fine for gaming.
 
Just Some Other Guy said:
Yeah, the $100 is a nice savings, maybe put it towards some better case cooling. Most cases come with a couple of not so great fans (usually sleeve bearings).
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In terms of cooling, choosing a case fan can make a difference. If one doesn't mind spending 20 dollars on a single fan, Noctua makes some good fans. I run one as a rear exhaust and putting it at max temps mean't it was not audible or barely audible.

As a little tip on fans for OP: check how many fan headers are on your motherboard dedicated to the fans on the chassis.
 
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c-no said:
In terms of cooling, choosing a case fan can make a difference. If one doesn't mind spending 20 dollars on a single fan, Noctua makes some good fans. I run one as a rear exhaust and putting it at max temps mean't it was not audible or barely audible.

As a little tip on fans for OP: check how many fan headers are on your motherboard dedicated to the fans on the chassis.
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Never used noctua fans, though I know they have a great reputation. Running some CM JetFlo fans, I'm a big fan of the machine thread holes.
 
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Never used noctua fans, though I know they have a great reputation. Running some CM JetFlo fans, I'm a big fan of the machine thread holes.
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I switched to Noctua as both a cpu cooler and for case fans. Even though I run a Ryzen 1200 (I know, stock is suitable but I wanted more airflow and silence). The rear fan is a 140mm fan that gets the job done silently. Also got a 120 fan that I'd install but I'd rather keep that for a rainy day in the event I want to replace a 120mm fan.
 
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It looks like a nice reliable build that could be relevant for quite some years. What I used to do was go on craigslist/ thrift stores and find old desktops to rip apart and mess with for practice. That was before I was comfortable spending a bunch on parts. In fact, my desktop I use when not on my laptop is built entirely from Goodwill parts and it's not shit either. I've learned a TON by getting craigslist computers that were like 10$ to mix and match parts with to make frankenputers without worrying about destroying something valuable. Facebook marketplace also has a lot of cheap PCs and sometimes people will have more shit when you arrive or if you ask them. Going back to your build though, I can't friggin believe how cheap SSDs and everything else is getting. It's finally affordable to make sweet ass gaming puters. I would either crack win10 or just not activate it and get a bigger SSD instead. :tomgirl:
 
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c-no said:
I switched to Noctua as both a cpu cooler and for case fans. Even though I run a Ryzen 1200 (I know, stock is suitable but I wanted more airflow and silence). The rear fan is a 140mm fan that gets the job done silently. Also got a 120 fan that I'd install but I'd rather keep that for a rainy day in the event I want to replace a 120mm fan.
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I have a stupid number of fans lying around from when me and my brother were in our tinkering phase. My favorite are my thick ass silverstone 140s.
 
Right so you decided on Win10(lol) for the OS. Something that is nearly mandatory for Linux and recommended for Windoze is researching if the parts you are looking into have drivers and are compatible with the OS of choice. I also second the recommendation of getting old PC's to experiment- there's a lot of PitA's involved (I/O Shield, thermal paste, connecting the motherboard headers, fitting it all inside your case easily for good routine maintenance) and you don' t want to goof some pricey expensive part. One thing that you should look into is getting a fat cheap HD and including it in your build as a convenient back up. Faffing about with externals means you may not back up your shit when you need it.

YourUnclesDad said:
I can't friggin believe how cheap SSDs and everything else is getting. It's finally affordable to make sweet ass gaming puters.
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A shame AAA gaming has never been this garbage. The only new titles I've played in years have been indie games. SSD's are good fun but I am leery of relying on them.
 
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I have three tips based on what I see. Swap the 580 for a 1060- personally, it's more bang for the buck as I see it. 6gb model should be more than enough. Or get a 1050ti if you're okay with something a bit less powerful.

Of course, in doing so you hike up the cost slightly but in turn, I have a solution:
Instead of buying Win 10 from Microsoft, try this site, which I've used myself a few times so I can vouch for it. They got Win 7 to Win 10 keys on the cheap. Much better than paying one-hundred-fucking-dollars for a lukewarm OS.

Third tip. Get an M.2 SSD. They're fucking fast. I recommend putting the OS on that, games on the regular SSD, and all else on the HDD, including important documents. It'll obviously last the longest of the three. Or use the M.2 for Linux- it's up to you.
 
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