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How do men and women tend to feel about relationships with palpable age gaps where they're the younger one? Where they're the older one? What tends to be disposition of either party? Are there notable general differences in what's sought from either party participating, and does it depend on whether it's the man or the woman who's older?

(As for my own understanding as of now: if they don't seek someone similar in age, men tend to seek younger women and women tend to seek older men. Younger men, for women, represent less faded beauty (and fertility, if they're into family making), whereas women see more authority, status, and resources in older men.

Furthermore, I can't speak for women as they relate with older men, but I've noticed (and experienced) that-- in regards to temperament-- what tends to determine whether an older woman will seriously consider a younger man is whether the man can at least measure up to them in terms of maturity. This can be achieved from either direction-- either the man can stand shoulder-to-shoulder with her at the least, or the woman herself is of similar maturity to the man despite her seniority.

I don't get the sense that men seeking substantially younger women readily have this concern of "maturity parity".)
 
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I take it you mean age gaps that are 10+ years, but if not let me know. Anyways, women seeking drastically younger men are coping because they think that they are going to be young forever and think they can compete with younger women and can't cope with the biological reality of having less to offer than a woman that's more age appropriate for a young man to marry (protip: they can't). Older men seeking younger women are just sex pests preying on desperate/dumb young woman for cooch. If you are old enough to be a person's parent or older sibling that would be in college by the time they are in elementary school, maybe look for people more your age. I'm not even taking into account generational differences, their places in their careers and whether they want children or not (which is going to be harder if one partner is more than 10 years older than the other). It's just a bad idea all around. I don't endorse it.
 
Since I did time in the military by the time I went to university I was the old guy. 18 year old boys are dumb as shit, and prioritizing is a learned skill. Because of that I was in my mid 20s dating a freshmen and nobody seemed to have a problem with it. It wasn't until I saw tweets where roasties started calling any man who dates 18 year olds a pedophile while encouraging them to open up an onlyfans that I learned to ignore them.

"But you have different life experiences. How do you communicate?"

Most conversations with women can be continue using simple phrases such as
  • Damn that's crazy
  • God what a bitch
  • I wish I was there
  • You don't say
  • Then what?
Women as a whole rarely have any interesting to say
 
Since I did time in the military by the time I went to university I was the old guy. 18 year old boys are dumb as shit, and prioritizing is a learned skill. Because of that I was in my mid 20s dating a freshmen and nobody seemed to have a problem with it. It wasn't until I saw tweets where roasties started calling any man who dates 18 year olds a pedophile while encouraging them to open up an onlyfans that I learned to ignore them.

"But you have different life experiences. How do you communicate?"

Most conversations with women can be continue using simple phrases such as
  • Damn that's crazy
  • God what a bitch
  • I wish I was there
  • You don't say
  • Then what?
Women as a whole rarely have any interesting to say
Did you ever station in SK btw? You'll see girls barely pushing legal try to hook up with dudes on base who look twice their age, only to come back to the states where a 26 year old dating a 30 year old is considered pedophilia
 
Did you ever station in SK btw? You'll see girls barely pushing legal try to hook up with dudes on base who look twice their age, only to come back to the states where a 26 year old dating a 30 year old is considered pedophilia
No, but I was there for a few months for training. One of my SNCOs did meet his second wife there and that one actually lasted. Must be the language barrier. And Americans are weird about age gaps. There's a Mexican dude at my church whose 18 year old daughter married a 31 year old white guy and it was celebrated. Meanwhile you see thots on Twitter calling it pedophilia.
 
Since I did time in the military by the time I went to university I was the old guy. 18 year old boys are dumb as shit, and prioritizing is a learned skill. Because of that I was in my mid 20s dating a freshmen and nobody seemed to have a problem with it. It wasn't until I saw tweets where roasties started calling any man who dates 18 year olds a pedophile while encouraging them to open up an onlyfans that I learned to ignore them.

"But you have different life experiences. How do you communicate?"

Most conversations with women can be continue using simple phrases such as
  • Damn that's crazy
  • God what a bitch
  • I wish I was there
  • You don't say
  • Then what?
Women as a whole rarely have any interesting to say
I think it's just women projecting their anger at them more than anything because they are literally whoring themselves out to older men and they see a woman in a relationship with an older man that is stable and loving, which is perfectly fine with.

I was probably being a bit of a sped in my first post, but I've noticed that a lot of older dude/younger woman relationships are sugar daddy type relationships, which are kinda gross to me since both parties are just using each their for their own ends instead of actually having a loving relationship. The older man is using the younger woman for sex and she's using him for money. It's a perversion of what a relationship should be. It's a similar situation with older woman/younger man relationships since older women that do this typically want younger men in order to make them feel attractive in the type of way you see hot blonde chicks on the beach. The dude is really in it for monetary or some other more material reason.

Again, there are many relationships with massive age gaps that do work out and I can't shit on people that have found their other half to spend the rest of their life and possibly have children with (or just for a time period), but I just found that age gap relationships tend to introduce weird power dynamics by people that are seeking more base needs. The thing is though, it's easy to tell them apart since sugar daddies and cougars tend to advertise the fact that they are such and do so in flashy garish ways that a person seeking a genuine connection would never do.
 
I think it's just women projecting their anger at them more than anything because they are literally whoring themselves out to older men and they see a woman in a relationship with an older man that is stable and loving, which is perfectly fine with.

I was probably being a bit of a sped in my first post, but I've noticed that a lot of older dude/younger woman relationships are sugar daddy type relationships, which are kinda gross to me since both parties are just using each their for their own ends instead of actually having a loving relationship. The older man is using the younger woman for sex and she's using him for money. It's a perversion of what a relationship should be. It's a similar situation with older woman/younger man relationships since older women that do this typically want younger men in order to make them feel attractive in the type of way you see hot blonde chicks on the beach. The dude is really in it for monetary or some other more material reason.

Again, there are many relationships with massive age gaps that do work out and I can't shit on people that have found their other half to spend the rest of their life and possibly have children with (or just for a time period), but I just found that age gap relationships tend to introduce weird power dynamics by people that are seeking more base needs. The thing is though, it's easy to tell them apart since sugar daddies and cougars tend to advertise the fact that they are such and do so in flashy garish ways that a person seeking a genuine connection would never do.
Power dynamics are generally a meme.
 
The only power dynamic relationships are between a teacher and her student or a boss and his employee
There are some power dynamics that are genuinely skeevy, but as a whole I've found that people use "power dynamics" to decry anything they dislike.

Older than a woman? Weirdo! Creep! Taking advantage of her!
Taller than a woman? Weirdo! Rapist! Intimidating her!
Make more? Weirdo! Perv! You're holding money over her!
Make less? Loser! Manchild! You're making her mother you!
 
I know of one relationship with fourteen years between the couple, the woman being the elder. He was in his late twenties when they got together. She already had two young children, and had two more with him fairly quickly afterwards.

They're still together ten years later. It doesn't seem to have been ideal for either of them. Her side of the family didn't seem to get involved, but his was strongly opposed to it but came around after the first of his children.

They seemed to come together over a shared hobby as a talking point, and he was one of these guys who always wanted to get married and have children. I don't think she was wealthy enough for him to be gold digging, she had her own house but his family was very well off so he didn't need to.

It can work. But it does bear considering sometimes what the future holds. Someone may still be young in themselves but be housebound with a partner who is no longer mobile down the line. That can happen to anyone, but with twenty years between it's much more likely to.
 
I've known plenty of men who are dating/married to substantially younger women, and I've never seen any problem with it. Women who are interested in serious relationships generally want maturity from prospective partners, while men generally want youth and fertility, so in many ways it's the ideal match up.

Plus, if you want to settle down and have a family someday, there's actually plenty of benefits to delaying it if you're a man, because if you plan properly, when you're older you'll have a lot more money, you'll likely have more free time, you'll have more life experience, you'll probably be less likely to still want to do the things that get in the way of raising a family (like partying/travelling, etc), and you'll almost certainly have more wisdom to pass on to your children.

Speaking personally, I earn a pretty average salary, and I've calculated that I'll be a millionaire by the time I'm 50. How? By staying single, saving every month by living frugally, investing in slow-and-steady stocks/bonds/securities which compound, and doing as much overtime as I can while I have no family commitments. By the time most of my peers will be in their 50s, they'll be considerably poorer than me, and if their children have children at the same age, they'll then no doubt be stuck with helping to shoulder the cost/responsibility of raising their grandchildren while their children are working full time.

I've had plenty of discussions with friends about this, and I've yet to be convinced that settling down early with someone your own age is the best option if you're a man. In almost every way you'll be better off by settling down later, and women can also take advantage of this delayed gratification by deliberately looking out for someone older and more responsible, so it's really better for both parties.
 
Since I did time in the military by the time I went to university I was the old guy. 18 year old boys are dumb as shit, and prioritizing is a learned skill. Because of that I was in my mid 20s dating a freshmen and nobody seemed to have a problem with it. It wasn't until I saw tweets where roasties started calling any man who dates 18 year olds a pedophile while encouraging them to open up an onlyfans that I learned to ignore them.

"But you have different life experiences. How do you communicate?"

Most conversations with women can be continue using simple phrases such as
  • Damn that's crazy
  • God what a bitch
  • I wish I was there
  • You don't say
  • Then what?
Women as a whole rarely have any interesting to say
>ex-military
>has an obsession with teenager girls
>hates women

So, when are you going to troon out?
 
It's not optimally safe for a woman to give birth before 25 (when pelvic bone widening and development is finished), her eggs are at risk of starting to get defective at 35 and her eggs are very very likely to be defective at 40. Men also don't finish their second puberty until 25 (brain development, muscle definition, skeletal development, squaring of the jaw), their zygotes also start to get iffy at 35 and they're also at a very high risk for causing birth defects with their zygotes at age 40. Age 50+ and you're more likely than not to give any kids you have autism, down syndrome, etc. Basically, a 25 year old or younger and a 35 year old or older are already a bad combination. And that's just the breeding aspect tip of one hell of an iceberg. If that sounds like a mess waiting to happen, that's nothing compared to the list of psychological and social ramifications and implications on the relationship and on raising the child. A big age gap is a shitshow regardless of if it's the man or the woman who's younger, but one's still obviously worse than the other.

Genuinely wish age gaps bigger than 10 years in general would be outlawed based on this alone. If anyone wants to cry about "but wut if one's sterile?" or "wut if dey homo?", just point at laws against incest for not making exceptions or something. Still gross and immoral, plus shit like "impossible pregnancies" happen where one person was supposedly sterile from old age, illness, etc. As fun as it is to watch CWC documentaries, we don't need potato production continuing in our species because some grandpa-age man and some middle-age woman want to bone anyone, much less each other, and gamble with those spoiled zygotes. Old men taking advantage of literal teenage girls is way more common and would be nipped in the bud along with those creepy menopausal women who hang around high schools dressed like whores to hit on hormone-addled teenage boys.

Disclaimer: I'm sure there are exceptions, but exceptions don't make rules and they're still creepy for hooking up with someone young enough to be their niece/nephew.
 
It's not optimally safe for a woman to give birth before 25 (when pelvic bone widening and development is finished), her eggs are at risk of starting to get defective at 35 and her eggs are very very likely to be defective at 40. Men also don't finish their second puberty until 25 (brain development, muscle definition, skeletal development, squaring of the jaw), their zygotes also start to get iffy at 35 and they're also at a very high risk for causing birth defects with their zygotes at age 40. Age 50+ and you're more likely than not to give any kids you have autism, down syndrome, etc. Basically, a 25 year old or younger and a 35 year old or older are already a bad combination. And that's just the breeding aspect tip of one hell of an iceberg. If that sounds like a mess waiting to happen, that's nothing compared to the list of psychological and social ramifications and implications on the relationship and on raising the child. A big age gap is a shitshow regardless of if it's the man or the woman who's younger, but one's still obviously worse than the other.

Genuinely wish age gaps bigger than 10 years in general would be outlawed based on this alone. If anyone wants to cry about "but wut if one's sterile?" or "wut if dey homo?", just point at laws against incest for not making exceptions or something. Still gross and immoral, plus shit like "impossible pregnancies" happen where one person was supposedly sterile from old age, illness, etc. As fun as it is to watch CWC documentaries, we don't need potato production continuing in our species because some grandpa-age man and some middle-age woman want to bone anyone, much less each other, and gamble with those spoiled zygotes. Old men taking advantage of literal teenage girls is way more common and would be nipped in the bud along with those creepy menopausal women who hang around high schools dressed like whores to hit on hormone-addled teenage boys.

Disclaimer: I'm sure there are exceptions, but exceptions don't make rules and they're still creepy for hooking up with someone young enough to be their niece/nephew.
I don't buy these parameters. If our only effective period for having kids was a 10 year stretch I highly doubt we would have gone very far as a society.
 
It's not optimally safe for a woman to give birth before 25 (when pelvic bone widening and development is finished), her eggs are at risk of starting to get defective at 35 and her eggs are very very likely to be defective at 40. Men also don't finish their second puberty until 25 (brain development, muscle definition, skeletal development, squaring of the jaw), their zygotes also start to get iffy at 35 and they're also at a very high risk for causing birth defects with their zygotes at age 40. Age 50+ and you're more likely than not to give any kids you have autism, down syndrome, etc. Basically, a 25 year old or younger and a 35 year old or older are already a bad combination. And that's just the breeding aspect tip of one hell of an iceberg. If that sounds like a mess waiting to happen, that's nothing compared to the list of psychological and social ramifications and implications on the relationship and on raising the child. A big age gap is a shitshow regardless of if it's the man or the woman who's younger, but one's still obviously worse than the other.

Genuinely wish age gaps bigger than 10 years in general would be outlawed based on this alone. If anyone wants to cry about "but wut if one's sterile?" or "wut if dey homo?", just point at laws against incest for not making exceptions or something. Still gross and immoral, plus shit like "impossible pregnancies" happen where one person was supposedly sterile from old age, illness, etc. As fun as it is to watch CWC documentaries, we don't need potato production continuing in our species because some grandpa-age man and some middle-age woman want to bone anyone, much less each other, and gamble with those spoiled zygotes. Old men taking advantage of literal teenage girls is way more common and would be nipped in the bud along with those creepy menopausal women who hang around high schools dressed like whores to hit on hormone-addled teenage boys.

Disclaimer: I'm sure there are exceptions, but exceptions don't make rules and they're still creepy for hooking up with someone young enough to be their niece/nephew.
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